On 01-01-2012 12:31, Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
> Doug McIntyre<mer...
Thanks, Casper, for letting me know there are posts that my newsserver
chose not to show me! :-) Getting them from Google for review.....
(pasting from Google to T-bird trashes the quote marks--sorry, folks!)
>Wes Groleau <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> writes:
>... Ultra 5+ ... Solaris 8 ....
>1. Can Solaris 8 use a USB mouse without tweaking anything? It comes up
>in X11, and without a mouse, I can't open a shell window to change
The Ultra 5 Doesn't have a USB port in the first place to the best of
my memory (granted, it has been some time). Don't know where you are
going to plug in said USB mouse.. If it does, why not try it? It'll
either work and answer a bunch of your questions, or not work, and if
it doesn't work its not going to work.
*** Good point, I will go check ... Nope, no USB.
If you have an OHCI PCI board for USB ports, you probably could put it
in a slot and have USB ports and have everything recognize and work.
BUT it has to be OCHI only. No UHCI, no EHCI, nothing else newer.
*** I can check the old WinTel boxes in the basement, but I doubt it.
*** I don't know those other acronyms. Would there be a clue on
*** the board?
But, why not boot off your CD-ROM that you changed root password on,
and disable CDE from starting? Then you'll have a text screen to
interact with the system on.
That is probably your best course of action for doing anything.
*** Duh! Thanks for the clue-by-four. :-) That is obviously
the way to go.
You can always find the session startup scripts and drop in dtterms or
xterms to start upon logging in, but doing CDE without a mouse will
drive you bonkers. Just stick with the (pretty slow) text screen.
Or at least get it running so you can have sshd running and the link
and remote X11 session into it from whatever you are currently typing on.
*** Thanks again! That was the goal anyway, to have it in a closet
as a server maintained from the Mac out here on the desk.
>2. IF (highly unlikely) I can ssh or telnet or rlogin to it as root, how
>hard is it to enable a USB mouse (if even possible).
Since Solaris 8 didn't come with sshd at all, it'd be pretty hard for that.
rlogind/telnetd won't accept remote root logins without configuring it
to specificly allow that.
*** Well, telnet is OK, since the router blocks it from the outside.
*** And I can login to an "ordinary" account, then 'su' to root.
*** Once I get a shell so I can _create_ an account.
>No point telling me how cheap a mouse is: thanks to a major accounting
All of $8 on eBay generally (plus the same in shipping).
I spoke the truth literally. In the red for at least one more week.
>5. When I get rich again (Ha!), is there any point in buying a 13W3
>monitor? I have a 13W3 to VGA adapter..
No, no advantage at all. Way way back in the day, workstations monitors
were a lot higher end, supporting higher resolution, higher refresh
rates than the run of the mill PC stuff. But that flip/flopped a long
*** Thanks. It will run headless once it's configured, so the
*** humongous boat anchor CRT I have on it now will suffice.
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011, Wes Groleau wrote:
> 1. Can Solaris 8 use a USB mouse without tweaking anything? It comes
> X11, and without a mouse, I can't open a shell window to change anything.
Yep, any USB mouse should be OK.
> 2. IF (highly unlikely) I can ssh or telnet or rlogin to it as root,
> is it to enable a USB mouse (if even possible).
No need, as a mouse should just work.
*** Except no USB as Doug pointed out.
> 3. If I can ssh or telnet or rlogin to it as root, can I just add
> xterm or something like that to the login scripts for root? Or have
> $DISPLAY to point to my Mac?
Don't use telnet; telnet is evil! If you use ssh -X from your Mac, you'll
be able to run X programs on your Ultra 5 and have them displayed on the
*** I could be wrong, but I think telnet _within_ my LAN is safe,
*** since my router blocks literally everything incoming. I will
*** of course take additional precautions against the VERY slim
*** chance of a trojan getting in
> 4. Is it possible (without pulling hair) to install Solaris 10 without a
> mouse, and make it come up in shell instead of X11?
Yep; select text install (and while your at it, use ZFS for your root
*** When I find my CD (or burn another one), I will try that.
*** Although something went wrong in the previous attempt,
*** don't remember what. Does Solaris 11 have a SPARC version
*** compatible with this old thing?
> 5. When I get rich again (Ha!), is there any point in buying a 13W3
> I have a 13W3 to VGA adapter?is there any advantage to using that
> the VGA connector on the motherboard?
No point at all. A modern LCD monitor will work better.
*** No LCD here (except the Mac built-in), but the old CRT should
*** be fine until I'm ready to go remote.
Thanks, both of you, for getting my aged brain working again!
There are some ideas so wrong that only a
very intelligent person could believe in them.
-- George Orwell