In fact, in the lucreate web page, there is not a single reference to work word 'zfs'. Any ideas of the syntax to upgrade this? The pool is created on a single slice
NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM rootpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c1t1d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0
errors: No known data errors root@t2 #
Any thoughts appreciated.
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> In fact, in the lucreate web page, there is not a single reference to > work word 'zfs'. Any ideas of the syntax to upgrade this? The pool is > created on a single slice
I mean I can find no reference in the man-page, not the web-page.
On option is probably to upgrade this using a UFS file system to Solaris 10 update 7, then create a boot environment with a ZFS file system. But I'm not sure if that is best (or even a suitable) way to accomplish this. -- I respectfully request that this message is not archived by companies as unscrupulous as 'Experts Exchange' . In case you are unaware, 'Experts Exchange' take questions posted on the web and try to find idiots stupid enough to pay for the answers, which were posted freely by others. They are leeches.
In <4a4e4...@212.67.96.135> Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
>I'm trying to update a machine running Solaris 10 update 4 with a UFS >root file system to one running Solaris 10 update 7 with a ZFS boot file >system.
Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the update 7 install image:
Solaris_10/Tools/Installers
and then run this command:
# ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole
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Dave <f...@coo.com> writes: > I'm trying to update a machine running Solaris 10 update 4 with a UFS > root file system to one running Solaris 10 update 7 with a ZFS boot file > system. [...] > In fact, in the lucreate web page, there is not a single reference to > work word 'zfs'. Any ideas of the syntax to upgrade this? The pool is > created on a single slice
Hi,
the upgrade to ZFS root requires support in the tools (live upgrade tools, package tools etc. and in ZFS). This feature was introduced in S10U6 so you need to be running S10U6 or higher (or equiv. patches) to upgrade to a ZFS root. If you run older code the upgrade needs to be done in two steps:
1. upgrade to S10U6 (or S10U7) with UFS root 2. create the root pool and use "lucreate -n <name> -p <pool>" to actually move to ZFS root
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Gary Mills wrote: > In <4a4e4...@212.67.96.135> Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
>> I'm trying to update a machine running Solaris 10 update 4 with a UFS >> root file system to one running Solaris 10 update 7 with a ZFS boot file >> system.
> Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches > from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the > update 7 install image:
> Solaris_10/Tools/Installers
> and then run this command:
> # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole
No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of?
However, i think I'll use the method suggested by Ronald Knuth to do this in two stages - part of the reason for using the live upgrade is it avoids possible issues with installing patches. Though slower, it is probably the less risky.
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> However, i think I'll use the method suggested by Ronald Knuth to do > this in two stages - part of the reason for using the live upgrade is it > avoids possible issues with installing patches. Though slower, it is > probably the less risky.
It is the *only* way you should attempt the UFS->ZFS migration!
Create the pool after you upgrade and make sure you use a mirror!
Recovering a damaged single volume ZFS pool is much harder than recovering a single volume UFS filesystem.
>> However, i think I'll use the method suggested by Ronald Knuth to do >> this in two stages - part of the reason for using the live upgrade is >> it avoids possible issues with installing patches. Though slower, it >> is probably the less risky.
> It is the *only* way you should attempt the UFS->ZFS migration!
OK, thanks for that. It seemed the least risky. way.
> Create the pool after you upgrade and make sure you use a mirror!
Unfortunately, I can't use a mirror until I am able to delete the original boot environment. I don't have another disk. At the minute, the machine has a 15 GB root file system on one disk, and nothing else. A second disk has is not used at all.
My plan it to do a live upgrade to 7 onto a clean disk, and give that a try to see if there are any major issues. Once I'm happy with the new boot environment (S10u7 ZFS), I'll delete the original boot environment (S10u4 UFS) and use the disk as a mirror.
This should be a lot better than the current setup, which is one UFS root file system with no mirror and a second disk unused. 15 GB is used out of a total of almost 300 GB (a pair of 147 GB disks).
I've moved things like /usr/local into remote file systems. Some other stuff people have stuff in /opt I am not going to bother restoring, as I'm not convinced any of it is very useful.
> Recovering a damaged single volume ZFS pool is much harder than > recovering a single volume UFS filesystem.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Especially since you can't read a newer version of ZFS on a machine not supporting that newer version. At least with UFS, you can read it on just about any Solaris box.
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> > Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches > > from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the > > update 7 install image:
> > Solaris_10/Tools/Installers
> > and then run this command:
> > # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole
> No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of?
This has always been the recommended practice.
"The release of the Solaris Live Upgrade packages must match the release of the OS you are upgrading to. For example, if your current OS is the Solaris 9 release and you want to upgrade to the Solaris 10 6/06 release, you need to install the Solaris Live Upgrade packages from the Solaris 10 6/06 release." - http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5777/6n7raicl3
On 2009-07-03 20:48:43 +0100, Dave <f...@coo.com> said:
> No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of?
When using LU you must always use the LU packages from the OS you are upgrading *to*. So, for instance, if you are migrating from 8 to 10, the first thing you should do is remove any LU packages on the system, and install those that came with the 10 release you are upgrading to (and any patches for them).
This sounds weird until you think about what LU does. And yes, it is the documented, official way to do this.
ITguy wrote: >>> Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches >>> from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the >>> update 7 install image: >>> Solaris_10/Tools/Installers >>> and then run this command: >>> # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole >> No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of?
> This has always been the recommended practice.
> "The release of the Solaris Live Upgrade packages must match the > release of the OS you are upgrading to. For example, if your current > OS is the Solaris 9 release and you want to upgrade to the Solaris 10 > 6/06 release, you need to install the Solaris Live Upgrade packages > from the Solaris 10 6/06 release." - http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5777/6n7raicl3
Thank you. That document looks quite old (Solaris 10 6/06 Installation Guide) so I assume I need to remove than the two packages mentioned there (SUNWlur SUNWluu)
I decided to try this on one of my own machines, which happens to have the same release of Solaris 10 (update 4) of the one I really want to update. Doing a grep of 'live'
# pkginfo | grep -i live system SUNWfrlu French Live Upgrade application SUNWlucfg Live Upgrade Configuration application SUNWlur Live Upgrade (root) application SUNWluu Live Upgrade (usr) application SUNWluzone Live Upgrade (zones support)
So I assume I need those 5 packages removed, and installed from the Solaris 10 DVD. (In actual fact, there are no zones, and I don't speak French, but in theory it's those 5).
I removed those 5 from my own machine, and added them back from the Solaris 10 DVD. But I get the warning about applying the patches. From what I can make out, I need at a least 121430 which i can't get, as I don't have a contract.
I'd be most surprised if the University of Washington, whose machine is being updated does not have a contract, but I have no idea of who to contact. If anyone from Sun reading this knows a contact name of who might have access to patches at the University of Washington, perhaps they can drop me an email:
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>I wrote: >>>> Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches >>>> from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the >>>> update 7 install image: >>>> Solaris_10/Tools/Installers >>>> and then run this command: >>>> # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole >>> No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of?
>> This has always been the recommended practice. >Thank you. That document looks quite old (Solaris 10 6/06 Installation >Guide) so I assume I need to remove than the two packages mentioned >there (SUNWlur SUNWluu) >So I assume I need those 5 packages removed, and installed from the >Solaris 10 DVD. (In actual fact, there are no zones, and I don't speak >French, but in theory it's those 5). >I removed those 5 from my own machine, and added them back from the >Solaris 10 DVD. But I get the warning about applying the patches. From >what I can make out, I need at a least 121430 which i can't get, as I >don't have a contract.
The Live Upgrade patches and packages should all be included on the Solaris 10 DVD. They're installed by the liveupgrade20 script. It adds missing packages as well.
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Gary Mills wrote: > In <4a500...@212.67.96.135> Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
>> I wrote: >>>>> Did you begin by installing the Live Upgrade packages and patches >>>>> from S10 update 7? Typically, you cd to this directory on the >>>>> update 7 install image: >>>>> Solaris_10/Tools/Installers >>>>> and then run this command: >>>>> # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole >>>> No, I did not. Is this method documented anywhere you know of? >>> This has always been the recommended practice.
>> Thank you. That document looks quite old (Solaris 10 6/06 Installation >> Guide) so I assume I need to remove than the two packages mentioned >> there (SUNWlur SUNWluu)
>> So I assume I need those 5 packages removed, and installed from the >> Solaris 10 DVD. (In actual fact, there are no zones, and I don't speak >> French, but in theory it's those 5).
>> I removed those 5 from my own machine, and added them back from the >> Solaris 10 DVD. But I get the warning about applying the patches. From >> what I can make out, I need at a least 121430 which i can't get, as I >> don't have a contract.
> The Live Upgrade patches and packages should all be included on > the Solaris 10 DVD. They're installed by the liveupgrade20 script. > It adds missing packages as well.
Thank you.
Some of this Sun documentation gets a bit confusing, as you read one thing in one place, and another elsewhere. It's difficult to know what to believe some times. What's current when it is written, is often not current a year later, but it does not get removed.
I looked in a 'Patches' directory which was empty.
I actually patched one of my own machine from 4 to 7 earlier today as a test run, without installing the patches. I removed the following from the update 4 version
system SUNWfrlu French Live Upgrade application SUNWlucfg Live Upgrade Configuration application SUNWlur Live Upgrade (root) application SUNWluu Live Upgrade (usr) application SUNWluzone Live Upgrade (zones support) system SUNWbzip The bzip compression utility
then adding them back from the update 10 DVD.
It appears to have gone fine, with no problems.
$ cat /etc/release Solaris 10 5/09 s10s_u7wos_08 SPARC Copyright 2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 30 March 2009
But I'm not going to take unnecessary risks on the other machine.
I just run the liveupgrade20 script on another machine (Solaris 10 update 4). It appears to run ok, but I don't intending updating that machine in the near future at least.
I should be able to get access to the latest patches somehow - I noticed that the patch cluster '121430' was updated to 121430-37 on the 2nd of July,
so I assume that is more recent than what's on the Solaris 10u7 DVD.
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Dave <f...@coo.com> writes: >I removed those 5 from my own machine, and added them back from the >Solaris 10 DVD. But I get the warning about applying the patches. From >what I can make out, I need at a least 121430 which i can't get, as I >don't have a contract.
No, just run this from the DVD:
# ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole
You only need to change SUNWlur and SUNWluu not the rest.
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Casper H.S. Dik wrote: > Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
>> I removed those 5 from my own machine, and added them back from the >> Solaris 10 DVD. But I get the warning about applying the patches. From >> what I can make out, I need at a least 121430 which i can't get, as I >> don't have a contract.
> No, just run this from the DVD:
> # ./liveupgrade20 -nodisplay -noconsole
> You only need to change SUNWlur and SUNWluu not the rest.
> Casper
Thank you.
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Dave wrote: > Casper H.S. Dik wrote: >> Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > Dave wrote: >> Casper H.S. Dik wrote: >>> Dave <f...@coo.com> writes:
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No, since that does not have a dig at Experts Exchange, which is my main aim in that flippant signature.
In any case, under English law, you get copyright automatically I believe (I'm not a lawyer I admit). So you don't need to actually claim copyright on anything you write.
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