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Michael Laajanen

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:31:03 PM11/20/09
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Hi,

Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it be
based on the?

/michael

Rich Teer

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Nov 21, 2009, 12:49:26 PM11/21/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Michael Laajanen wrote:

> Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it be
> based on the?

I don't think the ship date is known outside of Sun yet (and maybe not
even inside). As for what build of Nevada it'll be based on, I hear
that Solaris 11 will NOT be based on Nevada but on Project Indiana,
Sun's binary distro of the OpenSolaris bits--a prospect that doesn't
exactly thrill me...

To be fair, I've not yet tried OpenSolinux^WOpenSolaris, so I shouldn't
be too hard on it.

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solx

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:57:50 AM11/22/09
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Hi,

I am expecting May 2010.

YTC#1

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:38:56 PM11/22/09
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Rich Teer wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Michael Laajanen wrote:
>
>> Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it be
>> based on the?
>
> I don't think the ship date is known outside of Sun yet (and maybe not
> even inside). As for what build of Nevada it'll be based on, I hear
> that Solaris 11 will NOT be based on Nevada but on Project Indiana,

Unless something happens in the next few weeks, it will not be based on
NV. It will be based(or even be) OpenSolaris.

> Sun's binary distro of the OpenSolaris bits--a prospect that doesn't
> exactly thrill me...
>
> To be fair, I've not yet tried OpenSolinux^WOpenSolaris, so I shouldn't
> be too hard on it.
>

As a desktop/laptop system it is fine, I fail to see how it fits into
the Enterprise as it has no hands free enterprise hands off installer
(AI just is not there yet, and they have ripped out JumpStart).


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YTC#1

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:39:05 PM11/22/09
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Why ?

Chris Ridd

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:55:10 PM11/22/09
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On 2009-11-22 17:39:05 +0000, YTC#1 said:

> solx wrote:
>> Michael Laajanen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it
>>> be based on the?
>>>
>>> /michael
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am expecting May 2010.
>
> Why ?

solx is female and pregnant? ;-)
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Sami Ketola

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:55:20 AM11/23/09
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Not even the net release name is not yet know thus no the release date yet.
Currently it's just Solaris.Next. Maybe it will be called Solaris 11 but then
again it may be called something else.

Sami

Richard L. Hamilton

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:15:25 AM11/30/09
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In article <QGeOm.53165$Pi5....@newsfe08.ams2>,

YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> writes:
> Rich Teer wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Michael Laajanen wrote:
>>
>>> Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it be
>>> based on the?
>>
>> I don't think the ship date is known outside of Sun yet (and maybe not
>> even inside). As for what build of Nevada it'll be based on, I hear
>> that Solaris 11 will NOT be based on Nevada but on Project Indiana,
>
> Unless something happens in the next few weeks, it will not be based on
> NV. It will be based(or even be) OpenSolaris.
>
>> Sun's binary distro of the OpenSolaris bits--a prospect that doesn't
>> exactly thrill me...
>>
>> To be fair, I've not yet tried OpenSolinux^WOpenSolaris, so I shouldn't
>> be too hard on it.
>>
>
> As a desktop/laptop system it is fine, I fail to see how it fits into
> the Enterprise as it has no hands free enterprise hands off installer
> (AI just is not there yet, and they have ripped out JumpStart).

AFAIK, they're quite well aware that it lacks enterprise (or really even
more than single-system) installation and deployment support (as well as
some related features?), and are working on it. Absent firm information
to the contrary, I would suppose it won't be released as the successor
to Solaris 10 until those features have been incorporated.

Richard L. Hamilton

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Nov 30, 2009, 8:27:24 AM11/30/09
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In article <o7opt6-...@mankeli.homeip.net>,

Which is another way of saying that their marketing folks retain the
prerogative of renaming anything. Look at the half dozen or so names
they've given their compiler suite over the years.

IMO, gratuitous name changes simply promote confusion, not sales. A
marketing department is a necessary evil, but there are a lot more
effective things it can do than re-branding.

AFAIK this is nothing new - the convention of not assuming that the
successor to Solaris x would be Solaris (x+1) has existed long before
OpenSolaris. Indeed, the assumption has been violated before, with 7
succeeding 2.6, or arguably with the retroactive renaming of SunOS 4.1.x
and associated environment to Solaris 1.y (with non-straightforward x-to-y
mapping, I think).

John D Groenveld

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Nov 30, 2009, 9:30:44 AM11/30/09
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In article <7mo973F...@mid.individual.net>,

Michael Laajanen <michael_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Is shipping date for Solaris 11 set yet, and also what Nevada will it be
> based on the?

Which Nevada (or Indiana) features are you most interested in?

Some of these may be backported to Solaris 10 depending on
demand and how long it takes Sun to get Solaris Next ready as a
credible upgrade.

John
groe...@acm.org

Paul Floyd

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Nov 30, 2009, 3:35:16 PM11/30/09
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:27:24 GMT, Richard L. Hamilton <rlh...@smart.net> wrote:
>
> Which is another way of saying that their marketing folks retain the
> prerogative of renaming anything. Look at the half dozen or so names
> they've given their compiler suite over the years.

It seems to have steadied down now. It's been "Sun Studio" since Sun
Studio 8, 5 versions and 5 years and a bit ago.

Despite the name instability, the compiler itself has has remained
compatible (for better or for worse) since Workshop 5.

A bientot
Paul
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Tim Bradshaw

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Nov 30, 2009, 4:55:01 PM11/30/09
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On 2009-11-30 14:30:44 +0000, groe...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) said:

> Some of these may be backported to Solaris 10 depending on
> demand and how long it takes Sun to get Solaris Next ready as a
> credible upgrade.

FWIW my guess is that there will never be a Solaris Next, but instead
everything will gradually be backported into 10, with the 10uNs
becoming essentially releases.

This is based on quite major chunks of stuff already going into 10
(ZFS, ZFS root, huge changes in the boot process, probably other
things) and having looked at various OpenSolaris versions and shuddered
when I tried to think about how they would be sold to large customers
as an upgrade ("Oh yes, all that infrastructure you developed around
that feature? that's all obsolete now" <door slams>).


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