Learning Solaris
kartikvashishta108
series systems to: Put out a few thousand(or more) whole root non
global zones, which, users may access to, among other things, learn
on?
All it takes is good networks, few solid systems, a few TB of
space.....
Sun could create a user group web site where people could learn,
exchange information....all this won't be bad for popularizing
Solaris...put a cron job to backup/restor zones/create new ones...if
someone wants to delete /usr, let them! or, put sparse zones out
there...
I do not believe that, unless Sun requires one to, someone would want
to maliciously write a script to destroy thousands of such
zones......a phone number/cc number etc could be used to assign each
user to a zone....
and, I'm unemployed!(any irony here/)
Kartik Vashishta
Dave
To learn Solaris well you would need to be a real root - not just in a
zone.
However, I know HP/Compaq done something similar with a 'testdrive' or
something it was called. I think it would help the porting of software
to Solaris if you could say to someone 'your program does not work on
Solaris - if you want to see for youself, login to ..."
Obviously there are hardware, power and manpower costs associated with it.
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kartikvashishta108
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Well, porting is certainly one consideration. "Look and feel", seeing
output of basic commands, etc are easily done via non global zones, of
course, certain commands that require more hardware interaction, are,
"unavailable". With future Solaris release, things may change(in that
more hardware access may not be impossible). Even so, based purely on
the need of, "look and feel" and "learning commands" some sort of
access would not be bad.
Kartik Vashishta
ThanksButNo
> How about Sun dedicate a couple of M9000 or the latest greatest T
> series systems to: Put out a few thousand(or more) whole root non
> global zones, which, users may access to, among other things, learn
> on?
Have you considered parting with about US$300 to get
a used Ultra 60 or some such at Ebay?
/:-/
kartikvashishta108
That was not my point. My point was: Sun, ought, do, it.
Kartik Vashishta
nelson
drive in....
i'm not saying it's not an idea, but i can think of a lot of reasons
why not and you could just run virtual box, fussion, xen or something
akin to try it out yourself.
actually, isn't there something like a live cd distro?
kartikvashishta108
My Ultra 60's I got for $25 each. 512MB, 18Gb drive...400 or so
processor..that was not on Ebay.
Kartik Vashishta
ThanksButNo
> On Jun 29, 6:46 pm, kartikvashishta108 <p...@kartik.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 29, 5:31 pm, ThanksButNo <no.no.tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 29, 2:24 pm, kartikvashishta108 <p...@kartik.com> wrote:
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> > > > How about Sun dedicate a couple of M9000 or the latest greatest T
> > > > series systems to: Put out a few thousand(or more) whole root non
> > > > global zones, which, users may access to, among other things, learn
> > > > on?
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> > > Have you considered parting with about US$300 to get
> > > a used Ultra 60 or some such at Ebay?
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> > That was not my point. My point was: Sun, ought, do, it.
[shrug] I can't say what other people "ought" to provide
for "free", which really isn't free, only somebody else
is paying for it.
> My Ultra 60's I got for $25 each. 512MB, 18Gb drive...400 or so
> processor..that was not on Ebay.
Ah, but the ones on Ebay are 2G, 36Gb drive, dual 450Mhz
processors.
Still, my point is that, whether or not Sun "ought" to do
it is moot. At this time, they *don't* do it, but in the
meantime it's relatively cheap to acquire your very own
practice environment that you will have 100% in your control.
BTW, there is room internally for a second disk drive, and
a SCSI connection in the back, so for a few more bucks you
can knock yourself out playing with ZFS and Zones.
I'd have to say that for anybody who wants to practice
working with Solaris, there aren't very many other options
that will cost less.
\:-\
Chris Ridd
In a way they have - the OpenSolaris live CD will boot and install on
many x86 boxes.
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Thommy M.
Install (Open)Solaris in VirtualBox (provided for free by Sun) and start
learning. Join the existing communities for (Open)Solaris. There's no
real need to run on SPARC based servers but for some small details IMHO.
kartikvashishta108
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I've done most of the things being mentioned(or stuff very similar),
and opwnsolaris is not solaris.
Kartik Vashishta
Chris Ridd
> I've done most of the things being mentioned(or stuff very similar),
> and opwnsolaris is not solaris.
Solaris 10 is Solaris, and you can get that for free too and install
that into VirtualBox.
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Rich Teer
> more hardware access may not be impossible). Even so, based purely on
> the need of, "look and feel" and "learning commands" some sort of
> access would not be bad.
I don't see what the system you propose would offer in addition to
someone installing Solaris inside VirtualBox. Well, except the stuff
that only comes with big iron--but beginners shouldn't be touching
that sort of thing anyway!
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Thommy M.
My notation (Open)Solaris was ment to indicate OpenSolaris or Solaris.
Sorry if that was unclear. Solaris 10 runs perfectly in VBox. Try out
the new VBox 3.0, released today...
kartikvashishta108
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Of course Solaris is not Opensolaris, and one version of Solaris is
Solaris 10 and the release is 05/09, and there are virtualization
technologies whereby which one may on an existing linux/windows/mac-
osx/bsd environment install Solaris and perhaps Opensolaris too...all
this, and some other comments made thus far, do nothing to change/
hamper/undermine my original position....
Jeez, I have more than 5 Solaris builds currently running...at home...
Kartik Vashishta