I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
I do have to admit that I tried OpenOffice and liked it a lot. The export to PDF feature is really nice and the quality of OpenOffice is somewhere between MS Office 97 - MS Office 2000 minus the VBA functionality. This makes it good for home use although at the company I work my friend tells me OpenOffice cannot run our VBA code. So it will not work for most workplaces. My son uses it for school since it is free and he would rather have new Nike shoes than an office application.
My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still even though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. He tells me that getting Unix connected to the net is one of the greatest challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter. He tells me he is at the point of almost making it work. He downloaded a bunch of DTrace scripts off the internet at work and burned them on a CD. He brought the CD home and was trying them out to see if he could DTrace to google but he got no response. He ran this command:
It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Unix will be easier to understand once he has the degree. He then tried using an Apple emacs editor to edit some hosts files following some printed instructions he got from google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept on beeping and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this message:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable +)
I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree. So he went to put windows XP on my computer but he told me it didn't recognize the partition. We googled solaris unix and found "ZFS" on google at work. It said that the file system is indestructable and never goes away. According to one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data corruption." That means it fights Windows XP and Norton Ghost when trying to get rid of Unix.
By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so I could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I needed a new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it and had to pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to an Apple iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it was newer and based on OS X.
I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where unix couldn't.
Karen Hill wrote: > I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were > installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect > to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure > out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the > secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is > thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
Will the MCSE be printed on pink or white toilet paper? As far as getting on the internet with Linux, your statement saying that you can't is erroneous. Suse 10 gets you on the internet automatically during the install phase.
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> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still even > though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. He tells me > that getting Unix connected to the net is one of the greatest > challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter.
> He tells me he is at the > point of almost making it work. He downloaded a bunch of DTrace > scripts off the internet at work and burned them on a CD. He brought > the CD home and was trying them out to see if he could DTrace to google > but he got no response. He ran this command:
> It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Unix will > be easier to understand once he has the degree. He then tried using an > Apple emacs editor to edit some hosts files following some printed > instructions he got from google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept > on beeping and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys > until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this message:
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable +)
> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this > time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give > training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" > level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree. So he went to > put windows XP on my computer but he told me it didn't recognize the > partition. We googled solaris unix and found "ZFS" on google at work. > It said that the file system is indestructable and never goes away. > According to one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with > 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data corruption." That > means it fights Windows XP and Norton Ghost when trying to get rid of > Unix.
> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so > I could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I > needed a new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it > and had to pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to > an Apple iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it > was newer and based on OS X.
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
This has to be a bad attempt at trolling. (???)
-- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
On 15 Feb 2006 13:10:09 -0800, Karen Hill <karen_hil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD. >Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were >installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect >to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure >out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the >secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is >thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
It wouldn't help him as he'd fail every interview due to being a complete idiot.
All he had to do was go to a web search site such as google, search for "unix networking" and he'd have dozens of clearly explained guides that anybody with a double digit IQ could understand.
Just because your friend is a complete moron is no reason to conclude that linux or unix are difficult to set up.
Karen Hill wrote: > I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were > installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect > to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure > out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the > secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is > thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
> I do have to admit that I tried OpenOffice and liked it a lot. The > export to PDF feature is really nice and the quality of OpenOffice is > somewhere between MS Office 97 - MS Office 2000 minus the VBA > functionality. This makes it good for home use although at the company > I work my friend tells me OpenOffice cannot run our VBA code. So it > will not work for most workplaces. My son uses it for school since it > is free and he would rather have new Nike shoes than an office > application.
> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still even > though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. He tells me > that getting Unix connected to the net is one of the greatest > challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter. He tells me he is at the > point of almost making it work. He downloaded a bunch of DTrace > scripts off the internet at work and burned them on a CD. He brought > the CD home and was trying them out to see if he could DTrace to google > but he got no response. He ran this command:
> It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Unix will > be easier to understand once he has the degree. He then tried using an > Apple emacs editor to edit some hosts files following some printed > instructions he got from google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept > on beeping and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys > until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this message:
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable +)
> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this > time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give > training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" > level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree. So he went to > put windows XP on my computer but he told me it didn't recognize the > partition. We googled solaris unix and found "ZFS" on google at work. > It said that the file system is indestructable and never goes away. > According to one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with > 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data corruption." That > means it fights Windows XP and Norton Ghost when trying to get rid of > Unix.
> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so > I could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I > needed a new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it > and had to pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to > an Apple iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it > was newer and based on OS X.
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
How amusing ;-) What you are doing is like telling everybody that you bought yourself a helicopter and tried to fly it. Of course you were unable to start the engine, because there were too many buttons. There is no "Fly!" button in a helicopter, and there is no "Do what I want!" (dwiw) command in UNIX.
To be able to work with UNIX, you have to learn some basics about it. So get yourself a book and _read_ it. Then read the docs of the system you want to get running. Then install the system, configure it, and if you have a problem, come back with your question. There are a lot of helpful people around here, but yelling loud "It is not working, fix it!" won't help you.
BTW: getting a MCSE degree and running UNIX are two different things.
I think I can help you...your friend likes you and wants to spend lots of time with you and comes up with reasons to keep coming by (to work on your computer). I hope you like each other...if not...be nice.
Karen Hill <karen_hil...@yahoo.com> did eloquently scribble:
> I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were > installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect > to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure > out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the > secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is > thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
So... He's a computer wiz and he wants to get an MCSE? Why would a computer wiz want a piece of paper that tells everyone he's a minesweeper consultant and solitaire expert?
> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still even > though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. He tells me > that getting Unix connected to the net is one of the greatest > challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter.
Bull shit It's fucking automatic on almost every linux and bsd distribution going. Even if it's dialup, the only thing that'll get in the way is the odd winmodem that'll cause a problem, use a normal external, no problem.
> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this > time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give > training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" > level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree.
Oh no, it gets better and better... MCSE is a degree now?
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In article <1140037809.643401.20...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Karen Hill" <karen_hil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were > installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect > to the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure > out how to get my computer on the internet. In fact all the > secretaries at work have my friend work on their computers and he is > thinking of going back to college to get his MCSE.
Are you and your boyfriend that lazy and/or stupid to configure Unix to browse the Net? "Wiz" is not a proper noun in the above sentence, and is not to be capitalized. Only single spaces are needed between sentences.
> I do have to admit that I tried OpenOffice and liked it a lot. The > export to PDF feature is really nice and the quality of OpenOffice is > somewhere between MS Office 97 - MS Office 2000 minus the VBA > functionality. This makes it good for home use although at the company > I work my friend tells me OpenOffice cannot run our VBA code. So it > will not work for most workplaces. My son uses it for school since it > is free and he would rather have new Nike shoes than an office > application.
> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still even > though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. He tells me > that getting Unix connected to the net is one of the greatest > challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter. He tells me he is at the > point of almost making it work. He downloaded a bunch of DTrace > scripts off the internet at work and burned them on a CD. He brought > the CD home and was trying them out to see if he could DTrace to google > but he got no response. He ran this command:
> dtrace www.google.com. > It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Unix will > be easier to understand once he has the degree. He then tried using an > Apple emacs editor to edit some hosts files following some printed > instructions he got from google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept > on beeping and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys > until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this message:
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable +)
The propes spellings are "Google" and "eMac."
> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this > time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give > training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" > level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree. So he went to > put windows XP on my computer but he told me it didn't recognize the > partition. We googled solaris unix and found "ZFS" on google at work. > It said that the file system is indestructable and never goes away. > According to one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with > 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data corruption." That > means it fights Windows XP and Norton Ghost when trying to get rid of > Unix.
The correct spelling is "Windows."
> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so > I could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I > needed a new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it > and had to pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to > an Apple iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it > was newer and based on OS X.
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
The corrects spellings are "Apple" and Unix," proper nouns are capitalized. Learn to proofread before posting.
-- Microsoft and Windoze: The combination that made computing dangerous. Apple and OS X: The combination that made computing insanely great. "VISTA" an acronym for the top five Windows problems: Viruses, Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware. As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
Karen Hill wrote: > I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD. > I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
Relax, people. It HAS to be a joke. Let's not turn this funny joke into a flame-war.
In article <43f3ac1c$0$13116$892e7...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
Dom <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Jim Lee Jr. wrote: > > The propes spellings ... > So much content to attack and you resort to typo laming. Fucking retard.
How is pointing out spelling errors attacking? Would you call your English teachers fucking retards?
By the way, thanks for pointing out my spelling error.
-- Microsoft and Windoze: The combination that made computing dangerous. Apple and OS X: The combination that made computing insanely great. "VISTA" an acronym for the top five Windows problems: Viruses, Intrusions, Spyware, Trojans and Adware. As long as the OS was from Apple and not MS I wouldn't care
Chiefly, because your critique begins with, "Are you and your boyfriend that lazy and/or stupid..." Also, because your post does very little --if anything-- to address the issues related in the parent message.
> Would you call your English teachers fucking retards?
If you were my English teacher, indeed I would.
Here follows another gem. Let's see if you can find both errors.
Karen Hill wrote: > It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Unix will > be easier to understand once he has the degree. He then tried using an > Apple emacs editor to edit some hosts files following some printed > instructions he got from google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept > on beeping and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys > until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this message:
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable +)
Unless Apple emacs is a complete obfuscation of GNU emacs, I fail to see what trouble you could have had. Open the file, type and save. Why would you need the LISP debugger?
> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. By this > time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees were offered to give > training in computers and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" > level computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree. So he went to > put windows XP on my computer but he told me it didn't recognize the > partition. We googled solaris unix and found "ZFS" on google at work. > It said that the file system is indestructable and never goes away. > According to one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with > 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data corruption." That > means it fights Windows XP and Norton Ghost when trying to get rid of > Unix.
> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so > I could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I > needed a new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it > and had to pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to > an Apple iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it > was newer and based on OS X.
Wow an Apple emacs? A GPLed computer? How much do they cost?
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so > glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where > unix couldn't.
>> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still >> even though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my PC. >> He tells me that getting Unix connected to the net is one of >> the greatest challenges a computer Wiz has to encounter.
GreyCloud> Sure it is. Then how come I can and he can't?
Note: "computer" in that context means "MS Windows". ;)
>>>>> "Karen" == Karen Hill <karen_hil...@yahoo.com> writes:
Karen> I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
But didn't try hard enough.
You should like saying "I've tried eating with chopsticks. I can't. It's too hard." and ignoring the fact that even 3 years olds in Asia can use chopsticks to eat every day.
Karen> Unix is too hard.
Yes, it's too hard for hackers to break into.
Karen> Why is that?
Your ignorance.
Karen> The Unix versions I listed above were installed by my Karen> friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect to Karen> the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't Karen> figure out how to get my computer on the internet.
A Microsoft Windows Wiz is no computer Wiz. How can a guy who is so weak at unix be considered a computer Wiz?
Karen> In fact all the secretaries at work have my friend work on Karen> their computers and he is thinking of going back to college Karen> to get his MCSE.
I see. He can't even manage to get an MCSE. And you call him a computer Wiz.
Karen> I do have to admit that I tried OpenOffice and liked it a Karen> lot. The export to PDF feature is really nice and the Karen> quality of OpenOffice is somewhere between MS Office 97 - Karen> MS Office 2000 minus the VBA functionality.
I go to USA and find that most people there don't speak Chinese. So? It's the USA's fault, right?
Karen> This makes it good for home use although at the company I Karen> work my friend tells me OpenOffice cannot run our VBA code.
My friends in the US tell me, too, that people in the US cannot speak Chinese. And? Is that unacceptable?
Karen> So it will not work for most workplaces.
Why not? Heard of the news about governments replacing Windows *desktops* with Linux?
Karen> My son uses it for school since it is free and he would Karen> rather have new Nike shoes than an office application.
Me too! And he would also use Linux instead of wasting *time* and money on that inferior OS from Seattle.
Karen> My friend is trying to get Unix to connect to the net still Karen> even though I am telling him to put windows XP back on my Karen> PC. He tells me that getting Unix connected to the net is Karen> one of the greatest challenges a computer Wiz has to Karen> encounter.
If someone tells you calculating 169/13 is a difficult _problem_ for him, what do you think?
Karen> He tells me he is at the point of almost making it work.
almost == not yet.
Karen> He downloaded a bunch of DTrace scripts off the internet at Karen> work and burned them on a CD. He brought the CD home and Karen> was trying them out to see if he could DTrace to google but Karen> he got no response. He ran this command:
Karen> It didn't work! I told him to go and get his MCSE and then Karen> Unix will be easier to understand once he has the degree.
I don't think so. Do you think getting a doctorate degree on English literature will make Chinese easier to understand?
Karen> He then tried using an Apple emacs editor to edit some Karen> hosts files following some printed instructions he got from Karen> google. Apple emacs was too hard and it kept on beeping Karen> and there was no way to quit so we pressed a bunch of keys Karen> until the emacs became really buggy and gave us this Karen> message:
If he can't manage Emacs, why is he using it? And you call him a "computer Wiz"? Would you call a guy who can't even handle multiplications a "mathematician"? Would you give a 3-year-old a sharp knive to cut paper?
Karen> I had to pull the power cord on the computer to reboot it. Karen> By this time I had convinced my friend that MCSE degrees Karen> were offered
Can you explain why an MCSE would help him handle a Mac and Emacs?
Karen> to give training in computers
MCSE only gives training for "Microsoft products". Not "computers" in general.
Karen> and he agreed that in order to become a "hacker" level Karen> computer Wiz, he would have to get that degree.
Why do you call him a "computer Wiz", if he doesn't even possess the "minimum" qualification that you that is necessary for such a title?
And how can you call a guy a "computer Wiz", if he doesn't even know unix? Does MCSE need to pass examines on unix?
Karen> So he went to put windows XP on my computer but he told me Karen> it didn't recognize the partition. We googled solaris unix Karen> and found "ZFS" on google at work. It said that the file Karen> system is indestructable and never goes away. According to Karen> one website it was like this: "ZFS protects all data with Karen> 64-bit checksums that detect and correct silent data Karen> corruption." That means it fights Windows XP and Norton Karen> Ghost when trying to get rid of Unix.
Easy with Linux. Just "dd of=/dev/hda if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1" and then reboot your beloved Windows installation disc.
Karen> By this time I really needed to be connected to the Karen> internet at home so I could get email. I went to an Apple Karen> store and told them that I needed a new computer but not an Karen> Apple Emacs because I already tried it and had to pull the Karen> power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to an Apple Karen> iMac which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because Karen> it was newer and based on OS X.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:10:09 -0800, Karen Hill wrote: > I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
... no, it isn't.
> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so I > could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I needed a > new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it and had to > pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to an Apple iMac > which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it was newer and > based on OS X.
What is an Apple Emacs?
> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so glad > I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where unix > couldn't.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:10:09 -0800, Karen Hill wrote: > I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> Unix is too hard. Why is that? The Unix versions I listed above were > installed by my friend on my computer and yet I wasn't able to connect to > the internet. My friend is a computer Wiz and he couldn't figure out how > to get my computer on the internet.
1) Linux isn't Unix.
2) I've never had trouble connecting to the internet.
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> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so glad > I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where unix > couldn't.
>> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so >> glad I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where unix >> couldn't.
> ... un, except that OS X is based on... BSD...
Actually, it's based on Darwin...which was partly derived from BSD.
Rick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:10:09 -0800, Karen Hill wrote:
>> I tried Solaris 10. I tried Linux. I tried FreeBSD.
> ... no, it isn't.
>> By this time I really needed to be connected to the internet at home so I >> could get email. I went to an Apple store and told them that I needed a >> new computer but not an Apple Emacs because I already tried it and had to >> pull the power cord to make it stop beeping. He led my to an Apple iMac >> which he said was better than an Apple Emacs because it was newer and >> based on OS X.
> What is an Apple Emacs?
>> I got home and got on the internet right away with my iMac. I am so glad >> I'm done with Unix. My apple gets things done like unix where unix >> couldn't.
> ... un, except that OS X is based on... BSD...
For extremely small amounts of "based on" But yes, it tries to emulate a unix to some extend. As long as you don't look under the hood. Or try to edit a configuration file. Or do other stuff taking for granted when working with unix
But otherwise, yes, this "Karen Hill" (probably a flatfish nym) has no friggin idea what s/he/it is talking about. Could just as well have been any Mac-user, like OxRetard for example. *The* Mac-user as everyone knows them. Extremely dumb. Extremely obnoxious. Extremely clueless -- Never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together.
