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Mike Ingram

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Nov 22, 2008, 11:34:20 PM11/22/08
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Can anyone please advise me on how to get into an Ultra10, running Solaris
10? More specifically, I would like to know how to get an ok prompt.
When powered on, it automatically boots up off the internal disks - I do not
get an ok prompt.
I would like to boot off the cdrom to reinstall a later version of the O/S.
I do not remember the root password - it's been a couple of years since I
built the system, and I never recorded it ;(
Many thanks.

Stan Barr

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Nov 23, 2008, 4:48:22 AM11/23/08
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Mike Ingram <mike....@iinet.net.au> wrote:

From memory, but I think I got it right:
Press the <stop> and <d> keys during boot-up. This gets you to the Open
Firmware (actually a full Forth language system) and the ok prompt.
then type: boot cdrom
There are full SS10 and 20, and Open Firmware manuals online which you
might find useful.


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Casper H.S. Dik

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Nov 23, 2008, 5:54:31 AM11/23/08
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pla...@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) writes:

>Mike Ingram <mike....@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Stop-A (not Stop-D)

Or a break on a serial console.

Casper
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Mike Ingram

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Nov 23, 2008, 6:04:02 AM11/23/08
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Many thanks guys - I'm now up and running again ;)


Richard B. Gilbert

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Nov 23, 2008, 7:54:22 AM11/23/08
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Hold down the "Stop" key and strike the "A" key. At the ">" prompt,
type "boot -s cdrom" (without the quotes) then edit /etc/passwd and
/etc/shadow to clear the root password. Now you can boot from disk, log
in as root, and do anything you want to do.

Write down the new root password, seal it in an envelope, lock the
envelope in the safe. That means, of course, that you must remember the
combination of the safe!!

Stan Barr

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Nov 23, 2008, 12:30:48 PM11/23/08
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Casper H.S. Dik <Caspe...@Sun.COM> wrote:

> Stop-A (not Stop-D)
>

Yes, a touch of brain-fade there - not used my SS20 in a while :-)

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Colin B.

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Nov 24, 2008, 1:45:14 PM11/24/08
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Casper H.S. Dik <Caspe...@sun.com> wrote:
> pla...@dial.pipex.com (Stan Barr) writes:
>
>>Mike Ingram <mike....@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>> Can anyone please advise me on how to get into an Ultra10, running Solaris
>>> 10? More specifically, I would like to know how to get an ok prompt.
>>> When powered on, it automatically boots up off the internal disks - I do not
>>> get an ok prompt.
>>> I would like to boot off the cdrom to reinstall a later version of the O/S.
>>> I do not remember the root password - it's been a couple of years since I
>>> built the system, and I never recorded it ;(
>>> Many thanks.
>
>>From memory, but I think I got it right:
>>Press the <stop> and <d> keys during boot-up. This gets you to the Open
>>Firmware (actually a full Forth language system) and the ok prompt.
>>then type: boot cdrom
>>There are full SS10 and 20, and Open Firmware manuals online which you
>>might find useful.
>
> Stop-A (not Stop-D)
>
> Or a break on a serial console.
>
> Casper

I have to ask here:
Am I the only one who still thinks "L1-A" in my mind?

Colin

Richard B. Gilbert

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:04:53 PM11/24/08
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What's "L1-A"? Obsolete terminology for Stop-A?

Bill Waddington

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Nov 24, 2008, 2:31:38 PM11/24/08
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+1. Showing my age - and yours...

I had to go look at my Ultra 10 keyboard. I thought it those still
said L1-A. It doesn't. Now I've got to go to the office and see
what the IPC keyboard says. We still use that antique to test the
occasional Sbus board.

Bill
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Darren Dunham

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Nov 24, 2008, 5:57:46 PM11/24/08
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Richard B. Gilbert <rgilb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> What's "L1-A"? Obsolete terminology for Stop-A?

Basically, yes.

Older sun keyboards (type3 and before) didn't have specific terms on the
left-hand function keys, but simply numbered them L1 through L12. (I
think the right-hand keys had some arrows, but otherwise they were also
just numbered R1 through R15. Starting with type4, the GUI nav terms
were listed on the left-hand keys, with the L# terms on the front face.
I think since type5, the L identification has been removed. The "stop"
key is in the first position, and was originally labled only "L1".

Not really clear enough to read, but an image of a type3 keyboard:
http://www.sunstuff.org/hardware/components/keyboards/sun.type3-keyboard.jpg

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Richard B. Gilbert

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Nov 24, 2008, 6:31:28 PM11/24/08
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Mmmmm! I think I prefer my type 5 keyboard!

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Chris Ridd

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Nov 25, 2008, 2:07:10 AM11/25/08
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On 2008-11-25 03:20:52 +0000, Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> said:

> In article <KjGWk.9022$YU2....@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>,

> Did those left-hand keys ever do anything? During my time on these
> machines, the L1 key was the only one I ever used.

I'm pretty sure they did things back in SunView. But I do remember
hacking some file to make "Front" and "Open" work in X11 back in
Solaris 2.5.
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Casper H.S. Dik

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Nov 25, 2008, 4:49:28 AM11/25/08
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"Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.shaw.ca> writes:

>I have to ask here:
>Am I the only one who still thinks "L1-A" in my mind?


I still think "L1-A" but I don't think I have any keyboards with a
"L1" key.

Casper H.S. Dik

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Nov 25, 2008, 4:55:08 AM11/25/08
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Bill Waddington <william.w...@beezmo.com> writes:

>>I have to ask here:
>>Am I the only one who still thinks "L1-A" in my mind?
>>
>>Colin
>
>+1. Showing my age - and yours...

>I had to go look at my Ultra 10 keyboard. I thought it those still
>said L1-A. It doesn't. Now I've got to go to the office and see
>what the IPC keyboard says. We still use that antique to test the
>occasional Sbus board.

The type 4 keyboard still had the L1-L10 on the sides of the keycaps.

Darren Dunham

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Nov 25, 2008, 12:21:02 PM11/25/08
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Michael Vilain <vil...@nospamcop.net> wrote:
> Did those left-hand keys ever do anything? During my time on these
> machines, the L1 key was the only one I ever used.

I think the keys from a keyboard sense were identical. If you ran
'xev', they generated very normal events. However, the stock MIT X11
distribution didn't seem to do anything with them. I manually mapped
some as window controls under TWM. I used SunTools/SunView, but not
extensively. They could have had meanings there, but I won't remember.

I wasn't very happy when the default mappings came from Sun and all my
made-up mappings were wrong... :-)

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Chris Morgan

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Nov 28, 2008, 1:06:14 PM11/28/08
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Casper H.S. Dik <Caspe...@Sun.COM> writes:

> "Colin B." <cbi...@somewhereelse.shaw.ca> writes:
>
> >I have to ask here:
> >Am I the only one who still thinks "L1-A" in my mind?
>
>
> I still think "L1-A" but I don't think I have any keyboards with a
> "L1" key.

My first desktop Sun had a Type 5 keyboard so it's always been Stop-A
to me.

Previous to that my access to Sun machines was via telnet from a VAX
which I accessed from a VT320 terminal :)

Chris
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