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Ramon F Herrera

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Sep 21, 2007, 2:25:52 AM9/21/07
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Ron Kirschner

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Sep 21, 2007, 11:27:18 AM9/21/07
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That would really be too bad. Does anyone out there know which of the
Linux/Unix versions out there most closely resembles UnixWare 7. I hope
that UW continues in some fashion, but would like to make contingency plans.
Seems to me at one time Solaris was close??


"Ramon F Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in message
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ThreeStar

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Sep 21, 2007, 11:50:50 AM9/21/07
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On Sep 20, 11:25 pm, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> SCO Group admits it may fold
>
> http://www.news.com/SCO-Group-admits-it-may-fold/2100-1014_3-6208988....
>
> -RFH

Enough FUD already. The "quotation" in the title of this thread
doesn't appear in the CNet article cited or in its source, the SEC 10Q
in which management is required to acknowledge the gloomiest
possibilities.

--RLR


darko

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Sep 21, 2007, 3:13:52 PM9/21/07
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On Sep 21, 5:27 pm, "Ron Kirschner" <r...@jedron.com> wrote:
> That would really be too bad. Does anyone out there know which of the
> Linux/Unix versions out there most closely resembles UnixWare 7. I hope
> that UW continues in some fashion, but would like to make contingency plans.
> Seems to me at one time Solaris was close??
>
> "Ramon F Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in messagenews:1190355952.5...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > SCO Group admits it may fold
>
> >http://www.news.com/SCO-Group-admits-it-may-fold/2100-1014_3-6208988....
>
> > -RFH


Solaris is SysV Unix. Transition from OpenServer to Solaris 8/9 was
fairly easy. I suppose that the road from UnixWare should be even
easier. Solaris 10 is free and gains support among major Intel/AMD
based server vendors (HP, IBM etc) and software vendors (Oracle and
IBM databases again have their new ports for Solaris x86-64).

Darko Krstic

Ramon F Herrera

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Sep 21, 2007, 7:42:43 PM9/21/07
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Hmm, let's see. I wrote a slightly modified version of the quotation,
and you tell your boss and stockholders: "please don't fire me! I was
all fault of this Ramon guy on the Internet, who changed the
quotation. Therefore all those rumors about SCO have to be FUD
invented by him!".

If you didn't make plans to abandon SCO's ship when this lawsuit
started you deserve to be fired on the spot.

-Ramon


Stephen M. Dunn

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Sep 21, 2007, 8:15:55 PM9/21/07
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In article <fd0nsf$27s$1...@aioe.org> "Ron Kirschner" <r...@jedron.com> writes:
$That would really be too bad. Does anyone out there know which of the
$Linux/Unix versions out there most closely resembles UnixWare 7. I hope
$that UW continues in some fashion, but would like to make contingency plans.

If SCO does indeed blink out of existence (and I'm not sufficiently
informed to assess the likelihood of this), it will leave creditors,
who will fight over the remnants, including UnixWare. Will the
creditors decide that UnixWare is worth keeping alive and even
producing as an ongoing product line? I dunno. Maybe they will,
maybe they won't.

You would definitely be wise to make contingency plans. But even
if SCO does fail entirely, that doesn't necessarily mean all of its
products are dead.
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Bill Campbell

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Sep 22, 2007, 12:14:22 AM9/22/07
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2007, Stephen M. Dunn wrote:
>In article <fd0nsf$27s$1...@aioe.org> "Ron Kirschner" <r...@jedron.com> writes:
>$That would really be too bad. Does anyone out there know which of the
>$Linux/Unix versions out there most closely resembles UnixWare 7. I hope
>$that UW continues in some fashion, but would like to make contingency plans.
>
> If SCO does indeed blink out of existence (and I'm not sufficiently
>informed to assess the likelihood of this), it will leave creditors,
>who will fight over the remnants, including UnixWare. Will the
>creditors decide that UnixWare is worth keeping alive and even
>producing as an ongoing product line? I dunno. Maybe they will,
>maybe they won't.

SCO hasn't been doing much in the way of new development on their Unix
products for years.

I know people who are still supporting customers running SCO Xenix, and
even one or two supporting Xenix on Tandy 16/6000 machines. I still have a
Xenix box and an SCO 3.2v4 system in my rack, but they haven't been booted
for about seven years now.

> You would definitely be wise to make contingency plans. But even
>if SCO does fail entirely, that doesn't necessarily mean all of its
>products are dead.

In this business making contingency plans is absolutely vital if one wants
to stay in business. We still have a few OpenServer customers, and one
5.0.6a system in-house used to support them, but our main emphasis has been
on Linux systems for almost a decade.

In point of fact, we installed our first mission-critical Linux system ten
years ago this month, Ironically, that was the then current Caldera
distribution. I don't remember whether we first became SCO Authrized
Resellers in 1987 or 1988. We one of the first Caldera resellers (which
isn't surprising as Caldera made a concerted push to recruit SCO's
resellers).

Bill
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on a ukelele.

ThreeStar

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Sep 24, 2007, 11:37:24 AM9/24/07
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If it wasn't said, it's not a quote. Commandment #9.

Ask Dan Rather about the connection between using fake quotes and
getting fired.

--RLR

rkhal...@gmail.com

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Sep 24, 2007, 2:03:27 PM9/24/07
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On Sep 21, 11:50 am, ThreeStar <s...@3starsoftware.com> wrote:

http://edgar.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1102542/000095013407020063/v33836e10vq.htm,
section 1, paragraph 3:

"As a result of both the Court's August 10, 2007 ruling and the
Company's entry into Chapter 11, there is substantial doubt about the
Company's ability to continue as a going concern."

Tony Lawrence

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Sep 25, 2007, 6:33:19 PM9/25/07
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On Sep 21, 2:25 am, Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> SCO Group admits it may fold
>
> http://www.news.com/SCO-Group-admits-it-may-fold/2100-1014_3-6208988....
>
> -RFH

I can't imagine anyone is particularly surprised.

I've been moving my business away from SCO for many years now.. still
have some SCO clients left, but not many..

--
Tony Lawrence
http://aplawrence.com/OSR5
http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ

Rob

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Sep 27, 2007, 10:02:34 AM9/27/07
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Ron, I have successfully completed SCO Unixware 7 to Linux
conversions on both RedHat Enterprise and SuSE Enterprise server. I'm
finishing a conversion on 240 sites right now to SuSE Enterprise
Server. Both RedHat and SuSE required slight changes but overall were
very similiar to UnixWare. I have no qualms recommending either of
those. That being said, I believe any Linux distro would work just as
well, I just haven't had personal experience converting SCO onto them.

Tony, I'd like to thank you for all the excellent documentation
you've provided to SCO users/admins on you website. It has been a
life saver many times for me in my career as a SCO adminstrator.

nye...@gmail.com

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Sep 27, 2007, 4:06:23 PM9/27/07
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I doubt anybody at CNet (let alone a guy named "Ramon") is going to
get
fired for that headline at this point. In any case, "SCO Group admits
it
may fold" *IS* direct quote from the CNet article. Do you really think
there is a substantive difference between "fold" and "close business
forever"?

Chapter 11 is chapter 11, anybody watching this case sees it the same
way. Considering the level of incompetence we're seeing in Lindon,
you have to admit their chances are slim to none.

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