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John Hansen

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Dec 7, 2001, 3:44:27 AM12/7/01
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Greetings. I had my dhclient software installed and configured to work
with the
att@home service. The only thing that it sent was the host-name.

It requested the DNS servers, router, broadcask and netmask
information.

As you probably have heard, Att @home, is no longer. Over the wekeend,
they
changed over to their new network, Att Broadband. Now that all the
lights came
back up on my General Instrument Surfboard Cable modem, I reboot the
machine
to get back online. I found that the dhclient software gets all the
necesary information
(based on the dhclient.leases file) but I cannot get online. In other
words, it seems to
be working correctly, but I cannot ping anything outside of my box
EXCEPT the dns
servers.

I'm basically writing to see if anyone else had any similar problems,
and how I might
correct them.

Also, I have a 4 port hub that they are connected through, however at
the time
being, no other mahcines are connected to the hub.

-John Hansen

Jack Frost

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Dec 7, 2001, 10:58:04 AM12/7/01
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Try using alternate DNS servers.....ATTBI's DNS servers are not working
properly.

Wyked
"John Hansen" <retail...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Timothy Martin

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Dec 7, 2001, 2:39:04 PM12/7/01
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I am in Chicago Area and have a similar problem.

After MUCH effort/time calling their phone support I did get
someone who told me that they do have instances of DHCP problems
apparently at various points around the country. My next-door
neighbor is up but I am not. I have been issued an IP on a different
subne than him. They both are ATTBI IPs.

I was assigned a trouble ticket with no ETA for repair.
I can ping a few things on MY WAN subnet, but cannot ping what I
am given as the gateway. So in my case, I am trying to find a
functional gateway to the Internet.

I can't even get a gateway that works, and have no idea when AT&T
will get to "my" problem, which is surely a larger problem.
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Arbane the Terrible

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Dec 7, 2001, 3:20:44 PM12/7/01
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Jack Frost wrote:

> Try using alternate DNS servers.....ATTBI's DNS servers are not working
> properly.

Okay. How do I set that up?

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-- James A. Wolf

Christopher Baird

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Dec 10, 2001, 12:02:34 AM12/10/01
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Good Evening,

I've been through the same thing myself. What is sounds like is this: AT&T
switched to a new security protocol that no longer uses hostnames, but
instead uses the MAC address of the cable modem. Your cable modem MAC must
be "provisioned" onto their network.

To do so, you need to wade through the technical support quagmire and get
ahold of one of the real technicians who can put the information through.
The field technicians install the modems on the fly, so to speak, by using
an internal web site. Unfortunately, I didn't save that site from the other
day.

Good luck!

Christopher


Attbitech

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Dec 10, 2001, 1:22:08 AM12/10/01
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https://SAS.R3.attbi.com or at least that is what it is for DFW

Bruce G. Karnacki

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Dec 10, 2001, 11:00:39 AM12/10/01
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Hmmm...

I've got a friend with an RCA 205 that won't connect. It seems that this is a
commom problem with this model, as it is not compatible with headend changes made
by ATT. I absolutely can't get through to ATT to report the problem, so I was
thinking about purchasing another model modem at CompUSA, Best, or Fry's, and
hooking it up myself.

Could I do this? How would I find out the MAC? Is the account number the
original account number that I had with Excite? I can't even get through to ATT
to find out if I have the same account number. Guess it'll just show up on the
bill.

I assume I'd have to do this from a functioning account?

Thanks,
Bruce Karnacki

Jenbatam

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Dec 10, 2001, 9:49:04 AM12/10/01
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To the original poster:

I am not sure if the following will help, alas you can give it a
try.

This sounded like ATT has changed your network with a new
subnet. If your modem is connected through a DHCP server, you
might want to reset it to grab a new IP address with the new
subnet.

On Monday 10 December 2001 12:02 am, `Christopher Baird' of
`cbai...@excite.com' posted on `comp.os.linux.networking'

Jim Sturtevant

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Dec 10, 2001, 11:44:27 AM12/10/01
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Bruce, yes you can purchase any DOCSIS cable modem. I was in the same boat
with the RCA205. I purchased the SmartOne CMX110 at Fry's for $99 after
rebate.

Once home, install the modem. Wait until the CABLE light is on steady.
Make sure you don't have an active dialup session. Depending on OS reboot
and check to make sure you've received an IP.

Then go to one of 6 site (depending on your region, just try them all). R2
is Bay Area. sites: sas.r?.attbi.com (replace the ? with 1-6). The
account number is on your bill and the resource id is the last 9 digits of
the account number.

Good luck.

"Bruce G. Karnacki" <karn...@parc.xerox.com> wrote in message
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Richard Ingram

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Dec 10, 2001, 8:53:37 PM12/10/01
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"Jim Sturtevant" <jstur...@yahoo.com> writes:

> Bruce, yes you can purchase any DOCSIS cable modem. I was in the same boat
> with the RCA205. I purchased the SmartOne CMX110 at Fry's for $99 after
> rebate.

So why would another DOCSIS modem work when the RCA, which I presume is DOCSIS
does not ??

Richard.

DW Smith

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Dec 13, 2001, 2:16:52 AM12/13/01
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I'm running XP Home and have the RCA 215 modem and a simple factory reset
did the trick for me (unplug power, hold the reset button for five or six
seconds after connecting the power). Was online for a few websites upon
which I would get the famous "DNS Server error" message. I would have to
'repair' the connection through the LAN settings page. That got old REALLY
fast so, with a little research on the Microsoft newsgroup (Microsoft site)
I found a few less used DNS server addresses locally (Seattle area) and
manually entered them into the 'Use the following DNS servers' box in the
TCP/IP settings page. So far, I've been online for over a week with no loss
in connection and the DL speed is up to 1.8 Mbps. Still short of the 2.9-3.5
Mbps I was getting from @home but it's still far better than dialup. Of
course, you will have to find servers located closer to you so you don't
suffer low speeds.

This, I have heard, is not the best fix in the long run but until ATTBI
fixes their problem, it will have to do.

Hope this helps.
>


John Navas

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:08:55 AM12/13/01
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In <KlXQ7.25498$ER5.310816@rwcrnsc52> on Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:02:34 GMT,
"Christopher Baird" <cbai...@excite.com> wrote:

>I've been through the same thing myself. What is sounds like is this: AT&T
>switched to a new security protocol that no longer uses hostnames, but
>instead uses the MAC address of the cable modem. Your cable modem MAC must
>be "provisioned" onto their network.

Definitely not true in Fremont, California.

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John Navas

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:28:17 PM12/13/01
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In <3C1916AE...@spamcop.net> on Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:59:26 GMT,
Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>>
>> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>> In <KlXQ7.25498$ER5.310816@rwcrnsc52> on Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:02:34 GMT,
>> "Christopher Baird" <cbai...@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been through the same thing myself. What is sounds like is this: AT&T
>> >switched to a new security protocol that no longer uses hostnames, but
>> >instead uses the MAC address of the cable modem. Your cable modem MAC must
>> >be "provisioned" onto their network.
>>
>> Definitely not true in Fremont, California.
>

>Funny, it does seem to be true in Los Gatos, California.
>
>The 'Host' and 'Domain' for DNS are irrelevant, since DNS is managed by
>DHCP and I specifiy 'No' local DNS settings. The 'Computer name' and
>'Workgroup' (name) seem to be irrelevant as well, since changing them
>(several times, just for 'fun') has had no effect whatsoever.

It's not TCP/IP Host and Domain; it's the NETBIOS computer name. It
probably won't have an effect until the current lease expires.

Mike Blackford

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Dec 13, 2001, 3:59:26 PM12/13/01
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John Navas wrote:
>
> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <KlXQ7.25498$ER5.310816@rwcrnsc52> on Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:02:34 GMT,
> "Christopher Baird" <cbai...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >I've been through the same thing myself. What is sounds like is this: AT&T
> >switched to a new security protocol that no longer uses hostnames, but
> >instead uses the MAC address of the cable modem. Your cable modem MAC must
> >be "provisioned" onto their network.
>
> Definitely not true in Fremont, California.

Funny, it does seem to be true in Los Gatos, California.

The 'Host' and 'Domain' for DNS are irrelevant, since DNS is managed by
DHCP and I specifiy 'No' local DNS settings. The 'Computer name' and
'Workgroup' (name) seem to be irrelevant as well, since changing them
(several times, just for 'fun') has had no effect whatsoever.

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Mike Blackford

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Dec 13, 2001, 8:49:20 PM12/13/01
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John Navas wrote:
>
> In <3C1916AE...@spamcop.net> on Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:59:26 GMT,
> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >John Navas wrote:
> >>
> >> In <KlXQ7.25498$ER5.310816@rwcrnsc52> on Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:02:34 GMT,
> >> "Christopher Baird" <cbai...@excite.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I've been through the same thing myself. What is sounds like is this: AT&T
> >> >switched to a new security protocol that no longer uses hostnames, but
> >> >instead uses the MAC address of the cable modem. Your cable modem MAC must
> >> >be "provisioned" onto their network.
> >>
> >> Definitely not true in Fremont, California.
> >
> >Funny, it does seem to be true in Los Gatos, California.
> >
> >The 'Host' and 'Domain' for DNS are irrelevant, since DNS is managed by
> >DHCP and I specifiy 'No' local DNS settings. The 'Computer name' and
> >'Workgroup' (name) seem to be irrelevant as well, since changing them
> >(several times, just for 'fun') has had no effect whatsoever.
>
> It's not TCP/IP Host and Domain; it's the NETBIOS computer name. It
> probably won't have an effect until the current lease expires.

Well, since the lease has been renewed many times since I was
reconnected, I doubt it. Everything I've read on the AT&Tbis 'help'
pages about manual configuration indicates no dependency at all on
either "Computer name" or "Workgroup". Since I munged mine right from
the beginning of the 'transition', it seems to be wholly irrelevant (at
least where I am in Los Gatos). Even the feedback I've seen that folks
say they've gotten from the CSRs indicates there's no dependency. Go
figure.

John Navas

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In <3C195A9F...@spamcop.net> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:49:20 GMT,
Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>>
>> In <3C1916AE...@spamcop.net> on Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:59:26 GMT,
>> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> >John Navas wrote:

>> It's not TCP/IP Host and Domain; it's the NETBIOS computer name. It
>> probably won't have an effect until the current lease expires.
>
>Well, since the lease has been renewed many times since I was
>reconnected, I doubt it. Everything I've read on the AT&Tbis 'help'
>pages about manual configuration indicates no dependency at all on

>either "Computer name" or "Workgroup". ...

See <http://help.broadband.att.com/faqprintable.jsp?name=105_dhcp9x>,
items 24-28.

Paul Newhouse

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:55:43 PM12/13/01
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In article <yfdS7.13891$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net>,

John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com> writes:
> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <3C195A9F...@spamcop.net> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:49:20 GMT,
> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>>
>>> In <3C1916AE...@spamcop.net> on Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:59:26 GMT,
>>> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >John Navas wrote:
>
>>> It's not TCP/IP Host and Domain; it's the NETBIOS computer name. It
>>> probably won't have an effect until the current lease expires.
>>
>>Well, since the lease has been renewed many times since I was
>>reconnected, I doubt it. Everything I've read on the AT&Tbis 'help'
>>pages about manual configuration indicates no dependency at all on
>>either "Computer name" or "Workgroup". ...

Cross posted to:

comp.unix.questions
comp.unix.bsd.misc
comp.dcom.modems.cable
comp.os.linux.help
comp.os.linux.networking

I'm stuck at step 2. How long should I wait for the "Start" button to
appear? Maybe it came and went while I was entering this?

Paul

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Mike Blackford

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John Navas wrote:
>
> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <3C195A9F...@spamcop.net> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:49:20 GMT,
> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >John Navas wrote:
> >>
> >> In <3C1916AE...@spamcop.net> on Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:59:26 GMT,
> >> Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >John Navas wrote:
>
> >> It's not TCP/IP Host and Domain; it's the NETBIOS computer name. It
> >> probably won't have an effect until the current lease expires.
> >
> >Well, since the lease has been renewed many times since I was
> >reconnected, I doubt it. Everything I've read on the AT&Tbis 'help'
> >pages about manual configuration indicates no dependency at all on
> >either "Computer name" or "Workgroup". ...
>
> See <http://help.broadband.att.com/faqprintable.jsp?name=105_dhcp9x>,
> items 24-28.

See http://ma.attbroadband.com/mansupportwin.html#tcp9598

John Navas

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In <PSdS7.46461$ER5.559960@rwcrnsc52> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:55:43 GMT,
rockhe...@bigbox.wan.vpn (Paul Newhouse) wrote:

>I'm stuck at step 2. ...

Then you have serious problems unrelated to ATTBI.

Paul Newhouse

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:46:01 PM12/13/01
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In article <66fS7.14151$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net>,

John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com> writes:
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> In <PSdS7.46461$ER5.559960@rwcrnsc52> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:55:43 GMT,
> rockhe...@bigbox.wan.vpn (Paul Newhouse) wrote:
>
>>> See <http://help.broadband.att.com/faqprintable.jsp?name=105_dhcp9x>,
>>> items 24-28.
>>
>>I'm stuck at step 2. ...
>
> Then you have serious problems unrelated to ATTBI.

I'm connected to attbi.com just fine. I have carefully
not place any xterms or other things over the lower left
corner of the screen so I don't miss the appearance of the
"Start" button. I had to shrink the mozilla window so it
didn't cover up the lower left corner and the knews window
always wants to start at +0+0 and is full screen length, but
I got it shrunk up so I never block the "Start" button location.

How long does it usually take to get displayed?? Is it truely
in the corner (+0-0) or is it actually set in some distance?

Step 27 is disturbing; expose my samba server to the entire
ATTBI user community ... that a bit overly trusting don't ya
think?

Wolfgang Rupprecht

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rockhe...@bigbox.wan.vpn (Paul Newhouse) writes:
> I'm connected to attbi.com just fine. I have carefully
> not place any xterms or other things over the lower left
> corner of the screen so I don't miss the appearance of the
> "Start" button. I had to shrink the mozilla window so it
> didn't cover up the lower left corner and the knews window
> always wants to start at +0+0 and is full screen length, but
> I got it shrunk up so I never block the "Start" button location.

Have you tried running the "fvwm95" window manager
(ftp://mitac11.uia.ac.be/html-test/fvwm95.html)? If anything could
make that start button appear, this will.

(Yes, I did once compile it up to see people's reactions. I did get
lots of wrenching noises and "WTF's???").

> Step 27 is disturbing; expose my samba server to the entire
> ATTBI user community ... that a bit overly trusting don't ya
> think?

Nah, run it in a chroot jail with only virii in there with it. Think
of it as a flu-shot for your cable neighborhood.


-wolfgang
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Warren H.

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John Navas wrote:
>
> See <http://help.broadband.att.com/faqprintable.jsp?name=105_dhcp9x>,
> items 24-28.
>


26. Type the Client ID written on your work order* or type your first name


Does that mean that only one Mike in Los Gatos, California can have the
service?

Of course not.

The computer name must be something. Some people just won't accept a "go
ahead and type anything in there" instruction. So they suggest a Client
ID -- which for people who got the service prior to 12/1/01 is going to be
an @Home client ID -- or your first name.

If this field actually meant something to the network architecture, they
wouldn't risk suggesting that every Mike in the same node can use a computer
name of "Mike".

The machine behind my modem is actually a Linksys router. It has no NetBIOS
name. None. The Hostname field is blank. And it has no problem at all
getting a lease.

There is overwhelming evidence that the system does not use client ID's, and
compelling arguments that they use MAC addresses. By the way -- DHCP by
client ID is not normal. DHCP normally uses MAC addresses. Older Macintosh
systems, and Windows NT 4 pre Service Pack 3 can't even be a DHCP client in
a system that uses Client ID.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my employer, my
friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife. Any resemblance to the views
of anybody living or dead is coincidental. No animals were hurt in the
writing of this response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants to
go outside now.

John Navas

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In <LliS7.47947$ER5.605704@rwcrnsc52> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 08:01:47 GMT,
"Warren H." <who...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There is overwhelming evidence that the system does not use client ID's, and

>compelling arguments that they use MAC addresses. ...

I don't find the MAC address argument compelling. I experimented on
behalf of a friend in Fremont, California, that's been switched over to
ATTBI, and had no problem obtaining a DHCP lease when switching between
a computer and a SOHO router (SonicWALL).

It's possible that ATTBI has switched to provisioning by DOCSIS. That
would make the computer name as well as the MAC address of the host
irrelevant.

jcojans

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Dec 14, 2001, 1:37:23 PM12/14/01
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"Was online for a few websites upon
which I would get the famous "DNS Server error" message."

I'm constantly having this problem however both of my neighbors are
not! AT&T is no help whatsoever... any ideas on how I can get up and
running again. I don't know of any DNS servers in my area, nor do I
know how to find them.

I'm almost to the point of canceling their service.... any help would
greatly be appreciated.

Marc Fuller

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<spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> [POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <LliS7.47947$ER5.605704@rwcrnsc52> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001 08:01:47 GMT,
> "Warren H." <who...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >There is overwhelming evidence that the system does not use client ID's, and
> >compelling arguments that they use MAC addresses. ...
>
> I don't find the MAC address argument compelling. I experimented on
> behalf of a friend in Fremont, California, that's been switched over to
> ATTBI, and had no problem obtaining a DHCP lease when switching between
> a computer and a SOHO router (SonicWALL).
>

I thought it was the MAC address of the modem. I've switched computers
also with no problem. Ended up with a different IP address but both
worker fine using DHCP and no further information such as computer or
network name.

John Navas

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In <141220011157331760%marc....@m.cc.utah.edu> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001

The modem doesn't have a MAC address on the cable side, since the cable
network isn't based on Ethernet. It is addressable by the CMTS
(headend), but not that way.

Jimbo

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--
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"John Navas" <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:avsS7.15037$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net...

Modems have a MAC address for both the Cable interface and the Ethernet interface. The way our cable company authenticates is based
on the MAC address of the Cable interface.


John Navas

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In <nSsS7.39664$8w3.11...@typhoon.kc.rr.com> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001


19:59:15 GMT, "Jimbo" <Ji...@notmail.net> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:avsS7.15037$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net...

>> The modem doesn't have a MAC address on the cable side, since the cable


>> network isn't based on Ethernet. It is addressable by the CMTS
>> (headend), but not that way.

>Modems have a MAC address for both the Cable interface and the Ethernet
>interface. ...

I checked, and you are correct. Mea culpa. Sorry for the bad
information; thanks for the correction.

Thomas Gilg

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Dec 14, 2001, 3:50:07 PM12/14/01
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> Modems have a MAC address for both the Cable interface
> and the Ethernet interface.

True. When AT&T@Home first set me up, the cable modem
itself would not go online. Calling AT&T support, we finally
realized that the tech. had called in the wrong cable modem
MAC. The problem was resolved when I read the MAC
address sticker on the bottom of my RCA cable modem to
the support person.

Further, I had one PC with a 3COM 3C905 card attached
directly to the cable modem for the first few months, but then
inserted a SonicWall SOHO firewall, and I did not have to
call AT&T to re-register any MAC address.

Thomas Gilg
to...@cv.hp.com


Paul Newhouse

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In article <x71yhyc...@capsicum.wsrcc.com>,

Wolfgang Rupprecht <wolfgang+gnus2...@dailyplanet.wsrcc.com> writes:
>
> rockhe...@bigbox.wan.vpn (Paul Newhouse) writes:
>> I'm connected to attbi.com just fine. I have carefully
>> not place any xterms or other things over the lower left
>> corner of the screen so I don't miss the appearance of the
>> "Start" button. I had to shrink the mozilla window so it
>> didn't cover up the lower left corner and the knews window
>> always wants to start at +0+0 and is full screen length, but
>> I got it shrunk up so I never block the "Start" button location.
>
> Have you tried running the "fvwm95" window manager
> (ftp://mitac11.uia.ac.be/html-test/fvwm95.html)? If anything could
> make that start button appear, this will.

Oh, yeah, that might work!!! Hmmmm .... NAH!!!



> (Yes, I did once compile it up to see people's reactions. I did get
> lots of wrenching noises and "WTF's???").
>
>> Step 27 is disturbing; expose my samba server to the entire
>> ATTBI user community ... that a bit overly trusting don't ya
>> think?
>
> Nah, run it in a chroot jail with only virii in there with it. Think
> of it as a flu-shot for your cable neighborhood.

Hmmm good idea ;))

later dude,
pimin

Sri Sairam Goli

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Dec 14, 2001, 10:07:51 PM12/14/01
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>
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
> > CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
>
> Modems have a MAC address for both the Cable interface and the Ethernet interface. The way our cable company authenticates is based
> on the MAC address of the Cable interface.

Is it true for all cable modems/providers . I have Motorola's SURFboard cable modem and optimum online ( Newyork) is my cable provider.

I tried once connecting my Laptop (via ethernet interface) instead of my actual PC but it didn't work. Another interesting thing that
I observed is I have both windows98 and linux installed on my PC, everytime I boot my PC using windows I will get one IP address and if
I boot the linux I will get a different IP addres. But I always get these two same IPs though.

goli


Attbitech

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Dec 15, 2001, 1:20:31 AM12/15/01
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:34:30 GMT, John Navas
<spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>[POSTED TO comp.dcom.modems.cable - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <141220011157331760%marc....@m.cc.utah.edu> on Fri, 14 Dec 2001
>11:57:33 -0700, Marc Fuller <marc....@m.cc.utah.edu> wrote:
>
>>In article <1yoS7.14893$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net>, John Navas
>><spamf...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't find the MAC address argument compelling. I experimented on
>>> behalf of a friend in Fremont, California, that's been switched over to
>>> ATTBI, and had no problem obtaining a DHCP lease when switching between
>>> a computer and a SOHO router (SonicWALL).
>>>
>>I thought it was the MAC address of the modem. I've switched computers
>>also with no problem. Ended up with a different IP address but both
>>worker fine using DHCP and no further information such as computer or
>>network name.
>
>The modem doesn't have a MAC address on the cable side, since the cable
>network isn't based on Ethernet. It is addressable by the CMTS
>(headend), but not that way.

Modems have macs on cable side, that is how they are provisioned in
our database by CMTS.

aye carumba

Kenneth Crudup

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Dec 15, 2001, 4:57:27 PM12/15/01
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In article <3C195A9F...@spamcop.net>,
Mike Blackford <mblac...@spamcop.net> says:

>Well, since the lease has been renewed many times since I was
>reconnected, I doubt it. Everything I've read on the AT&Tbis 'help'
>pages about manual configuration indicates no dependency at all on
>either "Computer name" or "Workgroup". Since I munged mine right from
>the beginning of the 'transition', it seems to be wholly irrelevant (at
>least where I am in Los Gatos). Even the feedback I've seen that folks
>say they've gotten from the CSRs indicates there's no dependency. Go
>figure.

My Linux machine has no NetBIOS name, and no ident was supplied to "pump"
(the DHCP client I used). I'm with Mike; in Fremont, it was the MAC address
of either my cable-modem or the NIC card in my firewall PC.

-Kenny

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Home1: P.O. Box #914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 ke...@panix.com
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101

Kenneth Crudup

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Dec 15, 2001, 4:59:18 PM12/15/01
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In article <1yoS7.14893$DD2.1...@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamf...@navasgroup.com> says:

>It's possible that ATTBI has switched to provisioning by DOCSIS. That
>would make the computer name as well as the MAC address of the host
>irrelevant.

FWIW (if it matters, anyway) I've still got a LanCity heatsink. (Are
they DOCSIS, too?)

those who know me have no need of my name

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Dec 16, 2001, 6:29:57 AM12/16/01
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<EBYR7.17449$7y.203340@rwcrnsc54> divulged:

>I found a few less used DNS server addresses locally (Seattle area) and
>manually entered them into the 'Use the following DNS servers' box in the
>TCP/IP settings page. So far, I've been online for over a week

please be sure that the entities running those servers approve of your
using them. it is illegal, as in theft of service, otherwise.

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