Question about Telnet and SSH
Bible John
But for whatever reason this could not be done on my XP PC for a number of
reasons.
1. Java for whatever reason is not working in IE 6.x. I have set the
security for Medium, and I do not understand why it does not work. Needless
its not important enough to mess around for hours to fix it.
2. I cant create logins via SSH. So PUtty was out.
3. The Windows XP Telnet client (far worse than the one built into 3.11 or
95) has a conflict with freeshell, so I cant create user id's with that one.
So instead I had to hookup my Jornada 720 to my phone line and dial in, and
create the new login.
Can anyone explain to me the technical details as to why I had to use a
Telnet client instead of a SSH client. I was thinking of trashing all my
Telnet clients, but I guess this experience will prove otherwise.
John
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Richard E. Silverman
BJ> Recently I had to change my login name for my Unix shell. But for
BJ> whatever reason this could not be done on my XP PC for a number of
BJ> reasons.
BJ> 1. Java for whatever reason is not working in IE 6.x. I have set
BJ> the security for Medium, and I do not understand why it does not
BJ> work. Needless its not important enough to mess around for hours
BJ> to fix it.
BJ> 2. I cant create logins via SSH. So PUtty was out.
BJ> 3. The Windows XP Telnet client (far worse than the one built
BJ> into 3.11 or 95) has a conflict with freeshell, so I cant create
BJ> user id's with that one.
BJ> So instead I had to hookup my Jornada 720 to my phone line and
BJ> dial in, and create the new login.
BJ> Can anyone explain to me the technical details as to why I had to
BJ> use a Telnet client instead of a SSH client.
Since you haven't given any technical details as to how SSH failed,
probably not.
If all you did was change the account name on the server, did you change
it in the PuTTY configuration to match?
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Bill Marcum
On Sun, 21 May 2006 12:51:50 -0700, Bible John
<johnw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can anyone explain to me the technical details as to why I had to use a
> Telnet client instead of a SSH client. I was thinking of trashing all my
> Telnet clients, but I guess this experience will prove otherwise.
>
login as root, you send the root password over the network unencrypted.
The proper thing to do is ssh as a regular user and use su or sudo for
tasks that require root privileges.
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Chuck
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> On Sun, 21 May 2006 12:51:50 -0700, Bible John
> <johnw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Can anyone explain to me the technical details as to why I had to use a
>> Telnet client instead of a SSH client. I was thinking of trashing all my
>> Telnet clients, but I guess this experience will prove otherwise.
>>
> ssh usually doesn't allow root logins by default. If you use telnet to
> login as root, you send the root password over the network unencrypted.
> The proper thing to do is ssh as a regular user and use su or sudo for
> tasks that require root privileges.
>
>
Or if you *must* telnet (and I can think of a reason why), tunnel it
over ssh.
Bible John
as new." This I see when I telnet, but not when I SSH.
I usually SSH after I have created a user id. I had to change mine after 4
years, and could not use SSH, but had to use Telnet.
John
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Bible John
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Bill Marcum
<johnw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well whenever I login with SSH I do not see anything that says "if new login
> as new." This I see when I telnet, but not when I SSH.
>
> I usually SSH after I have created a user id. I had to change mine after 4
> years, and could not use SSH, but had to use Telnet.
>
>
telnet insread of ssh is: with telnet, you connect first and then log
in. With ssh, you connect as a specific user. If you "ssh hostname"
rather than "ssh user@hostname", ssh assumes that your local and remote
usernames are the same (unless you use a ~/.ssh/config file.) Perhaps
your shell provider allows "ssh new@hostname", or perhaps they have a
secure web page where you can create a new user id.
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Bible John
not work properly with the built in Telnet client. I had to connect my spare
PC and use its third party telnet client to make the id.
John
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of the holy angels.
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