Firefox 3 and Flash 9
dfeu...@mindspring.com
on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
Thanks.
Frank Durda IV
: Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3
: on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
:
: Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working
as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build
it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer
this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain
i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't
have worked either.)
I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last
Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when
I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges.
Not consuming any CPU, but dead, waiting on something that locks
things good. Firefox won't even redraw itself in any of its other windows
if you cover or move the window. Have to kill -15 firefox and restart and
hope you don't hit the same flash ad again, but in practice about every
20th page ad shown on Yahoo that day killed it again.
Oh, and there is a difference between the package/port building
and installing, and actually working. Firefox/X kicked out numerous
messages about calls in libraries being missing or not compatible
but only when you actually reach a page that wants to use something.
This was despite following the handbook instructions for these pieces.
Sounds like port/package dependencies are not right.
Finally reinstalled from scratch and put FF 2 on without Flash
and it doesn't have the death now, but now there are pages that are
just non-functional because 100% of their controls or content is done
in Flash.
As most people will tell you, a web browser that must have these three
trinkets (Java, Flash and Acrobat) working reliably is now needed for
perhaps a third of the working day, this non-functionality is a growing
problem and I suggest some effort be put into getting all these bits
to work together cleanly. That includes updating the handbook
instructions to actually get that result, or perhaps ship a combined
package that has Firefox plus all the right pieces from executables to
plugins to libraries all in one ball so it isn't a multi-hour ordeal
with spotty success.
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Warren Block
> dfeu...@mindspring.com wrote:
>: Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3
>: on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
>:
>: Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
>
> Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working
> as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
>
> I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build
> it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer
> this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain
> i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't
> have worked either.)
Please define "it" more precisely. Flash 7? 9? Flash 7 has a security
problem which stops the port being built unless you override it. Flash
9 is not yet functional on any FreeBSD system, last I knew.
For i386, Flash 7 somewhat works on both FF2 and 3. So does jdk14/15
and acroread. nspluginwrapper helps.
> I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last
> Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when
> I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges.
> Not consuming any CPU, but dead, waiting on something that locks
> things good. Firefox won't even redraw itself in any of its other windows
> if you cover or move the window. Have to kill -15 firefox and restart and
> hope you don't hit the same flash ad again, but in practice about every
> 20th page ad shown on Yahoo that day killed it again.
Welcome to the wonderful world of closed binaries. Install
flashblock.mozdev.org to be in control of where Flash is allowed to
execute.
As far as replacing closed binaries, xpdf can be used in place of
Acrobat Reader. gnash 0.8.3 can be used in place of the genuine Flash
binary, but fails far more often than the real thing. Adobe released
some Flash specifications recently that might help future gnash
improvements.
Sun has been making noises about a real open source Java for some time.
A few years ago it would have been a bigger deal. Flash seems to be
used a lot more than Java on the web now.
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Michel Talon
> : Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3
> : on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
> :
> : Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
>
> Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working
> as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
>
> I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build
> it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer
> this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain
> i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't
> have worked either.)
>
> I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last
> Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when
> I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges.
There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
Java i have not tried.
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Michel TALON
jpd
Michel Talon <ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>
> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
> install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
> and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
You can be such a joker. :-)
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dfeu...@mindspring.com
As a new user of Firefox 2/3, who switched from Konqueror because of a
install/runtime issues with KDE 3 on OpenBSD 4.3, I prefer Konqueror by
a long shot. I will shortly be switching to FreeBSD 7.0 as my main
web interface, partly because I can run Konqueror there with no problems.
I never use Java or Flash, mostly because there seems to be no way
to easily install those two programs on *BSD. Not havig Flash is
becoming a problem because of the increase in the number of websites
that use Flash and provide no alternative. I really look foreward to
running Konqueror as my browser again.
Philip Paeps
Not reliably. "Flash" is proprietary Adobe technology and for reasons known
only to them, they do not provide support for FreeBSD. It may be possible to
run some versions under the Linux emulator, but results are indeterminate.
- Philip
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Michael Sierchio
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC),
> Michel Talon <ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
>> install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
>> and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
>
> You can be such a joker. :-)
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Anyway, he misspelled "whine"...
- M
Conrad J. Sabatier
>
> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
> install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
> and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine. Java
> i have not tried.
Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64. :-(
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Michel Talon
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000, Michel Talon wrote:
> >
> > There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
> > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
> > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine. Java
> > i have not tried.
>
> Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64. :-(
>
Sorry, i did not know. You mean, the 32 bits version of wine doesn't
work under amd64? At least it works for me on Linux (and runs quite a
large number of Windows applications here).
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hac...@yahoo.com
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC),
>
> Michel Talon <ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>
> > There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
> > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
> > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
>
> You can be such a joker. :-)
Or else you could install Solaris. Solaris has full Adobe support.
:-)
On a serious note, I'm interested in seeing if it's possible to get
FreeBSD working on a Sun Blade 2000. Mine has an XVR-1000, XVR-600
already installed, and I have an XVR-500 I haven't tried yet.
Maybe this is a good way to break into FreeBSD kernel development. I
know Solaris isn't exactly speedy on older HW.
DMM
S James S Stapleton
>>
>
> Sorry, i did not know. You mean, the 32 bits version of wine doesn't
> work under amd64? At least it works for me on Linux (and runs quite a
> large number of Windows applications here).
>
I've not gotten the chance to try it yet, but from what I someone on one of
the mailing lists (not the newsgroup) told me a while ago, if you set '-m32'
(I think? the compile a 32 bit binary) in your C flags and C++ flags, wine
will compile and run fine. At that point, you just need to remove the entry
from the Makefile that tells it to abort the make attempt.
Unfortunately, I've other things requiring I stay with i386, so I haven't
been able to test if this works or not. I figure since I've heard it, and
I've not had anyone counter the point, I ought toss the idea out here for
you. Can anyone confirm this is or isn't functional?
-Jim Stapleton
Us
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC),
> Michel Talon <ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply
>> install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox
>> and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
>
> You can be such a joker. :-)
>
>
Call me sick, but I had some time on my hands and did just that...
Works like a charm :)
Conrad J. Sabatier
>>> Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64.
>>> :-(
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry, i did not know. You mean, the 32 bits version of wine doesn't
>> work under amd64? At least it works for me on Linux (and runs quite a
>> large number of Windows applications here).
>>
>>
> I've not gotten the chance to try it yet, but from what I someone on one
> of the mailing lists (not the newsgroup) told me a while ago, if you set
> '-m32' (I think? the compile a 32 bit binary) in your C flags and C++
> flags, wine will compile and run fine. At that point, you just need to
> remove the entry from the Makefile that tells it to abort the make
> attempt.
Hmm...I'll give that a shot, and report back. I don't recall offhand if
I ever tried that before.
> Unfortunately, I've other things requiring I stay with i386, so I
> haven't been able to test if this works or not. I figure since I've
> heard it, and I've not had anyone counter the point, I ought toss the
> idea out here for you. Can anyone confirm this is or isn't functional?
>
> -Jim Stapleton
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Us
OK, but it crashes a bit too often
Bob Eager
Been using it a fair amount; no crashes yet. Ports are all right up to
date as of Sunday.
Michel Talon
> >> Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64. :-(
> >>
> >
> > Sorry, i did not know. You mean, the 32 bits version of wine doesn't
> > work under amd64? At least it works for me on Linux (and runs quite a
> > large number of Windows applications here).
> >
>
> I've not gotten the chance to try it yet, but from what I someone on one of
> the mailing lists (not the newsgroup) told me a while ago, if you set '-m32'
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/emulators/wine-1.1.1,1.tbz
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Michel Talon
> dfeu...@mindspring.com <dfeu...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3
> > on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
> >
> > Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
>
> Not reliably. "Flash" is proprietary Adobe technology and for reasons known
> only to them, they do not provide support for FreeBSD. It may be possible to
> run some versions under the Linux emulator, but results are indeterminate.
>
> - Philip
>
Anyways, i have Flash 7 running apparently correctly under FreeBSD-7, at
least it is good enough to watch YouTube clips, including sound. The
setup is very simple:
- get somewhere the Flash7 binary. I have linux-flashplugin-7.0r69
installed. Apparently the present port linux-flashplugin-7 builds
without any problem. The configuration screen asks to build
nspluginwrapper, which is fine.
- install nspluginwrapper.
Then run
nspluginwrapper -i -v /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
This installs a plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins, called
npwrapper.libflashplayer.so. If desired one can copy it to /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
so that any one can use it, but then one needs to chmod a+rx it.
Problem solved, at least on firefox2, firefox3 and mozilla. I have
checked it works here, but doesn't work on opera and konqueror. For the
sites needing Flash9 the only solution is to run Windows Firefox under
wine.
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