: Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3 : on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0? : : Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't have worked either.)
I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges. Not consuming any CPU, but dead, waiting on something that locks things good. Firefox won't even redraw itself in any of its other windows if you cover or move the window. Have to kill -15 firefox and restart and hope you don't hit the same flash ad again, but in practice about every 20th page ad shown on Yahoo that day killed it again.
Oh, and there is a difference between the package/port building and installing, and actually working. Firefox/X kicked out numerous messages about calls in libraries being missing or not compatible but only when you actually reach a page that wants to use something. This was despite following the handbook instructions for these pieces. Sounds like port/package dependencies are not right.
Finally reinstalled from scratch and put FF 2 on without Flash and it doesn't have the death now, but now there are pages that are just non-functional because 100% of their controls or content is done in Flash.
As most people will tell you, a web browser that must have these three trinkets (Java, Flash and Acrobat) working reliably is now needed for perhaps a third of the working day, this non-functionality is a growing problem and I suggest some effort be put into getting all these bits to work together cleanly. That includes updating the handbook instructions to actually get that result, or perhaps ship a combined package that has Firefox plus all the right pieces from executables to plugins to libraries all in one ball so it isn't a multi-hour ordeal with spotty success.
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Frank Durda IV <uhclemLOSE.au...@nemesis.lonestar.org> wrote:
> dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: >: Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3 >: on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0? >: >: Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
> Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working > as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
> I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build > it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer > this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain > i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't > have worked either.)
Please define "it" more precisely. Flash 7? 9? Flash 7 has a security problem which stops the port being built unless you override it. Flash 9 is not yet functional on any FreeBSD system, last I knew.
For i386, Flash 7 somewhat works on both FF2 and 3. So does jdk14/15 and acroread. nspluginwrapper helps.
> I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last > Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when > I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges. > Not consuming any CPU, but dead, waiting on something that locks > things good. Firefox won't even redraw itself in any of its other windows > if you cover or move the window. Have to kill -15 firefox and restart and > hope you don't hit the same flash ad again, but in practice about every > 20th page ad shown on Yahoo that day killed it again.
Welcome to the wonderful world of closed binaries. Install flashblock.mozdev.org to be in control of where Flash is allowed to execute.
As far as replacing closed binaries, xpdf can be used in place of Acrobat Reader. gnash 0.8.3 can be used in place of the genuine Flash binary, but fails far more often than the real thing. Adobe released some Flash specifications recently that might help future gnash improvements.
Sun has been making noises about a real open source Java for some time. A few years ago it would have been a bigger deal. Flash seems to be used a lot more than Java on the web now.
> dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: > : Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3 > : on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0? > : > : Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
> Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working > as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
> I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build > it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer > this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain > i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't > have worked either.)
> I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last > Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when > I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges.
There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine. Java i have not tried.
> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
You can be such a joker. :-)
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> dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: > : Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3 > : on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0? > : > : Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
> Having same/similar issue. Need Firefox + Java + Flash plugins working > as well as Acrobat (doesn't have to be plug-in but nice).
> I was somewhat annoyed by the port that when you try to do the build > it instantly says it can't be used on this OS. Well, why did it offer > this item as an available port in the first place then? I'm on a plain > i386 platform, not something obscure. (It looked like amd64 wouldn't > have worked either.)
> I elected to then try 6.3 because of this (and went back to the last > Firefox 2 port) and got Flash supposedly working but in practice when > I hit the wrong web page with the wrong flash-based ad, Firefox wedges. > Not consuming any CPU, but dead, waiting on something that locks > things good. Firefox won't even redraw itself in any of its other windows > if you cover or move the window. Have to kill -15 firefox and restart and > hope you don't hit the same flash ad again, but in practice about every > 20th page ad shown on Yahoo that day killed it again.
> Oh, and there is a difference between the package/port building > and installing, and actually working. Firefox/X kicked out numerous > messages about calls in libraries being missing or not compatible > but only when you actually reach a page that wants to use something. > This was despite following the handbook instructions for these pieces. > Sounds like port/package dependencies are not right.
> Finally reinstalled from scratch and put FF 2 on without Flash > and it doesn't have the death now, but now there are pages that are > just non-functional because 100% of their controls or content is done > in Flash.
> As most people will tell you, a web browser that must have these three > trinkets (Java, Flash and Acrobat) working reliably is now needed for > perhaps a third of the working day, this non-functionality is a growing > problem and I suggest some effort be put into getting all these bits > to work together cleanly. That includes updating the handbook > instructions to actually get that result, or perhaps ship a combined > package that has Firefox plus all the right pieces from executables to > plugins to libraries all in one ball so it isn't a multi-hour ordeal > with spotty success.
As a new user of Firefox 2/3, who switched from Konqueror because of a install/runtime issues with KDE 3 on OpenBSD 4.3, I prefer Konqueror by a long shot. I will shortly be switching to FreeBSD 7.0 as my main web interface, partly because I can run Konqueror there with no problems. I never use Java or Flash, mostly because there seems to be no way to easily install those two programs on *BSD. Not havig Flash is becoming a problem because of the increase in the number of websites that use Flash and provide no alternative. I really look foreward to running Konqueror as my browser again.
> Frank Durda IV - send mail to this address and remove the "LOSE": > <uhclemLOSE.aug08%nemesis.lonestar.org> http://nemesis.lonestar.org > "Your company has become synonymous with incompetence and crime. Stop > trying to be all things to all people. Focus on either the incompetence > or the crime."-Dogbert > Copyright 2008, ask before reprinting.
dfeus...@mindspring.com <dfeus...@mindspring.com> wrote: > Is there any way to get Flash 9 running in Firefox 3 > on 64-bit AMD FreeBSD 7.0?
> Failing that, how about getting Flash 7 to work instead?
Not reliably. "Flash" is proprietary Adobe technology and for reasons known only to them, they do not provide support for FreeBSD. It may be possible to run some versions under the Linux emulator, but results are indeterminate.
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jpd wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000 (UTC), > Michel Talon <ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote: >> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply >> install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox >> and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000, Michel Talon wrote:
> There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine. Java > i have not tried.
Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64. :-(
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> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000, Michel Talon wrote:
> > There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply > > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox > > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine. Java > > i have not tried.
> Except that wine, unfortunately, is completely unusable under amd64. :-(
Sorry, i did not know. You mean, the 32 bits version of wine doesn't work under amd64? At least it works for me on Linux (and runs quite a large number of Windows applications here).
> > There is a *much* simpler solution for Flash under FreeBSD. Simply > > install wine, and then install under wine the Windows version of Firefox > > and Flash. This works perfectly fine with recent versions of wine.
> You can be such a joker. :-)
Or else you could install Solaris. Solaris has full Adobe support.
:-)
On a serious note, I'm interested in seeing if it's possible to get FreeBSD working on a Sun Blade 2000. Mine has an XVR-1000, XVR-600 already installed, and I have an XVR-500 I haven't tried yet.
