Adobe Flash Player for BSD systems
CeDeROM
For the all users that want to have native support for Flash player
for BSD systems - there are already two issues pending at the Adobe
Flash Player Bug and Issue Management System:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-881
Please Vote and Comment on these bugs to let Adobe know about this
problem.
Best Regards,
Tomek
Torfinn Ingolfsen
> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-881
>
> Please Vote and Comment on these bugs to let Adobe know about this
> problem.
Huh? I am required to login?
No thanks.
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CeDeROM
> Huh? I am required to login?
> No thanks.
Unfortunately creating user in their system is essential to post and
vote for bugs, but this is only official place and form to let Adobe
know... :-(
Maybe using this formal manner, pointing this out as bug that there is
no build for BSD systems, Adobe (or their pie-chart masters) will
assign someone into this case.
Regards,
Tomek
Jürgen Galonska
> CeDeROM wrote:
>> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060
>> http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-881
>>
>> Please Vote and Comment on these bugs to let Adobe know about this
>> problem.
>
> Huh? I am required to login?
> No thanks.
Yea, me too.
Why to login for reporting bugs?
But there is a workaround: www.bugmenot.com
It works.
bye
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James
Since when was there a native version of adobe flash for bsd? This is
news to me.
James
They arnt bugs, since no native version exists. I created an account
just to see what these were, they are simply bug reports created saying
"we want flash for *BSD"
I'll say what I said there, on here.
============
Guys, Adobe doesn't care about freebsd. Thousands of people have nagged
Adobe for a freebsd port for years now, there's even an online petition
for adobe to port it which has thousands of signatures, they simply DO
NOT CARE at all about it. Wave huge wads of cash at Adobe, we will get a
port of it to freebsd. I am sure thats what Sun Microsystems did to get
it ported to solaris. It's all about money.
This is why propriety software sucks. At least there is some
documentation for developers to port Silverlight to open source systems
(quite surprising considering it's Microsoft i'm talking about here).
From Adobe, we get nothing. Linux only got a port because of it's large
userbase numbers or because adobe use it themselves. (opensolaris
(slowaris) has a very small userbase compared to linux on the desktop,
yet it got a port, again, money!!!).
There's rumors of a bsd port of flash existing behind closed doors
somewhere, but that's all it is, a rumor.
Don't hold your breath guys.
=============
James
They are aware of it, senior developers at adobe often publish blogs
about newly released versions of flash or upcoming releases. People
regularly hound them personally for *BSD versions in their blogs. I have
as well in the past but gave up. The answer is always the same. "Whilst
we cannot rule out that there may be a native version in the future,
there is currently no work in progress to port it".
A better solution would be if youtube and other sites that offer their
services in flash only offered it in an alternative format that is
platform independant, that will kick adobe right where it hurts.
Good luck getting anyone to listen or consider it though.
slunky
> A better solution would be if youtube and other sites that offer their
> services in flash only offered it in an alternative format that is
> platform independant, that will kick adobe right where it hurts.
>
> Good luck getting anyone to listen or consider it though.
Google gave a demonstration of Youtube using Chromes's flavor of HTML5 a
couple months back.
"Google toys with plug-in free YouTube"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/27/youtube_html5/
They never announced they would be developing the site that way, and
certainly IE would need to implement HTML5 before any change that
direction, but they wanted to show it can be done.
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-slunky
James
Is silverlight an option? I hear that can/is portable?
slunky
>> Google gave a demonstration of Youtube using Chromes's flavor of HTML5 a
>> couple months back.
>>
>> "Google toys with plug-in free YouTube"
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/27/youtube_html5/
>>
>> They never announced they would be developing the site that way, and
>> certainly IE would need to implement HTML5 before any change that
>> direction, but they wanted to show it can be done.
>
> Is silverlight an option? I hear that can/is portable?
I haven't heard anything about that. The only site I've ever been to
that wanted it silverlight was download.microsoft.com, and the moonlight
port handled it pretty well.
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-slunky
James
Am watching these "bugs" and it astounds me that the message as not
sunken in. comment after comment I see, "please release a native flash
for freebsd".
This has been going on for years, it goes in one ear and out the other
at adobe, 5000 comments on those "bugs" (read "support request") will
yield zero results at adobe.
Wish people would be more productive and hound the sites that are
FORCING us to use flash and not offering any alternative formats.
*sigh*
I rest my case.
Sp...@controlq.com
> Wish people would be more productive and hound the sites that are FORCING us
> to use flash and not offering any alternative formats.
>
> *sigh*
>
> I rest my case.
>
And a good case it is. HTML 5 has a new "canvas" object, and this opens
up an open standard approach to doing what proprietary formats (flash,
etc) do in a way which *ANY* standards conformant browser (sorry
Microsoft) can run -- in theory. IMHO, this is a *GOOD* and open approach
to web development.
Now, all we have to do is to convince all the millions of pseudo-code
winkies who think that flash is the be-all and end all to multimedia
content distribution ... perhaps a few open source publishing tools might
make the case all the more compelling ...
In the meanwhile, flash 10 runs on Ubuntu, which itself runs under QEMU,
which runs on FreeBSD just fine 8-).
Rob Sciuk
Warren Block
That's a long way to go just to run flash 10;
www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 runs okay on FreeBSD 8 with a native
firefox3. It may work even better with www/linux-firefox[-devel].
Or run a Windows firefox in Wine. If you really want the full dose of
evil, IE inside Wine would be the way to go.
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slunky
> Sp...@ControlQ.com <Sp...@ControlQ.com> wrote:
>> And a good case it is. HTML 5 has a new "canvas" object, and this opens
>> up an open standard approach to doing what proprietary formats (flash,
>> etc) do in a way which *ANY* standards conformant browser (sorry
>> Microsoft) can run -- in theory. IMHO, this is a *GOOD* and open approach
>> to web development.
>>
>> Now, all we have to do is to convince all the millions of pseudo-code
>> winkies who think that flash is the be-all and end all to multimedia
>> content distribution ... perhaps a few open source publishing tools might
>> make the case all the more compelling ...
>>
>> In the meanwhile, flash 10 runs on Ubuntu, which itself runs under QEMU,
>> which runs on FreeBSD just fine 8-).
>
> That's a long way to go just to run flash 10;
> www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 runs okay on FreeBSD 8 with a native
> firefox3. It may work even better with www/linux-firefox[-devel].
>
> Or run a Windows firefox in Wine. If you really want the full dose of
> evil, IE inside Wine would be the way to go.
Works great with Opera 10.00 on FreeBSD 8 too.
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-slunky
James
Last I checked wine did not work on freebsd/amd64. so i'm shit out of
luck there.
Sp...@controlq.com
> Or run a Windows firefox in Wine. If you really want the full dose of
> evil, IE inside Wine would be the way to go.
>
LOL ... IE ... yeah, yeah, that's it 8-)!
IMHO, QEMU is easier to set up than Wine ... but then that's just me ...
oh, and QEMU does allow you to run a copy of Windows as guest, if you
really WANT to run IE ... heh heh ...
Cheers,
Rob.
Warren Block
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote:
>> Or run a Windows firefox in Wine. If you really want the full dose of
>> evil, IE inside Wine would be the way to go.
>>
>
> LOL ... IE ... yeah, yeah, that's it 8-)!
>
> IMHO, QEMU is easier to set up than Wine ... but then that's just me ...
Wine is a lot better than it used to be. If the program is one that
works in Wine (ie8 doesn't yet, apparently), just run the installer.
Tried Firefox 3.5 just now, and it runs pretty well. Flash installs and
runs, as does Flashblock and Adblockplus. The only problems I saw were
that you have to doubleclick close gadgets, and a rendering error on
NewEgg's Flash item viewer. Might be that either could be fixed with
setting changes.
> oh, and QEMU does allow you to run a copy of Windows as guest, if you
> really WANT to run IE ... heh heh ...
But that's a whole Windows machine to guard, wait for booting and
shutdown, antivirus, antispyware, WGA, update Tuesdays...
Jamie
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me
Flash works fine for me. Im running FreeBSD 7.1.
Step 1: Enable Linux compatibility and linprocfs
Add linux_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Add
compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf. Add
OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf. Add this line to
/etc/fstab:
linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0
Then run these commands:
mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc
mount /usr/compat/linux/proc
/etc/rc.d/abi start
/etc/rc.d/sysctl start
Step 2: Update ports and install all the needed software
You will now need to install the following ports and their
dependencies:
cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean
cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9 && make install clean
cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean
Follow the nspluginwrapper instructions to enable all available
plugins:
# nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
Auto-install plugins from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins
Looking for plugins in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins
Auto-install plugins from /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin
Looking for plugins in /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin
Install plugin /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-
flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
into /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Auto-install plugins from /root/.mozilla/plugins
Looking for plugins in /root/.mozilla/plugins
And that's it! Open your fav Flash site and all should work.
If your browser doesn't register the Shockwave Flash plugin as
pictured above, you might need to do a bit of extra work as I had to
do on one of my machines:
cd /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins && ln -s
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
npwrapper.libflashplayer.s
look at: http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71 for
more info....
heiko recktenwald
> their
>>> services in flash only offered it in an alternative format that is
>>> platform independant, that will kick adobe right where it hurts.
>>>
>>> Good luck getting anyone to listen or consider it though.
I doubt it will kick much, but the most easy way of platform independant
video streaming are playlists, series of URLs in ASCII or just one
URL, a mime-type and an extension like audio/x-mpegurl and .m3u. You can
do this for video too.
H.
James
I have native flash on a couple of linux machines and it is often SLOW
even natively under linux (often causes FF to use 90% cpu etc), same
thing happens often on a 64 bit linux box I have, with the 64 bit
version of flash for linux. Having to add extra layers of emulation just
to get flash to work is ridiculous, and adds extra slowness to something
thats already SLOW.
everyone should ditch flash and start using a medium thats cross
platform and open source. Do away with this proprietary garbage.
For a commercial product flash is not very good. They have been working
on flash for years and it's still buggy and slow.
Bob Melson
<snip>
> everyone should ditch flash and start using a medium thats cross
> platform and open source. Do away with this proprietary garbage.
And what do you recommend, bearing in mind that there are bunches of sites
that use flash whether needed or not. While I try to avoid such sites,
it's become almost impossible to do so without giving up on the web
entirely. So, what's out there that's both compatible with and better
than flash?
<snip>
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James
> On Sunday 01 November 2009 20:42, James (james@dne) opined:
>
> <snip>
>> everyone should ditch flash and start using a medium thats cross
>> platform and open source. Do away with this proprietary garbage.
>
> And what do you recommend, bearing in mind that there are bunches of sites
> that use flash whether needed or not. While I try to avoid such sites,
> it's become almost impossible to do so without giving up on the web
> entirely. So, what's out there that's both compatible with and better
> than flash?
>
> <snip>
>
Silverlight looks more promising than Flash, at least the architecture
is not completely closed off like flash, which allows people to write
ports to other operating systems (which has been done (moonlight)).
Thats just an example.
Also have a look at some of the other posts in this read regarding HTML 5 :)
Propriety stuff is just so annoying, time for change so people are not
tied to one thing, it's a bit like how computer networks used to be, in
the Pre OSI model era.
Warren Block
>
> Silverlight looks more promising than Flash, at least the architecture
> is not completely closed off like flash, which allows people to write
> ports to other operating systems (which has been done (moonlight)).
>
> Thats just an example.
...can't...resist...urge...to...write...punchlines...
"Tired of proprietary software? Has Microsoft got a deal for you!"
"Help us, Microsoft, you're our only hope!... Help us, Microsoft..."
"Absolutely not a trap! And this time we mean it!"
"Open! Free! Don't worry about that 'DoItLikeWord95' thing in there!"
Bob Melson
Thanks. Don't get the idea I'm against open source - far from it, as a
matter of fact. But I hadn't heard of anything that would effectively
replace flash and must've missed the comments regarding html 5.
Dominic Fandrey
>
>>
>> Propriety stuff is just so annoying, time for change so people are not
>> tied to one thing, it's a bit like how computer networks used to be, in
>> the Pre OSI model era.
> Thanks. Don't get the idea I'm against open source - far from it, as a
> matter of fact. But I hadn't heard of anything that would effectively
> replace flash and must've missed the comments regarding html 5.
>
I think SVG can do everything Flash does. Opera has a very decent
implementation. Batik from the Apache foundation is also very mature,
probably the most mature implementation around (Java, though, so pretty
lame for small devices).
Webkit also makes promising developments when it comes to SVG compliance.
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