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What AIX on 7249-851/860 (PPC603e Notebooks)?

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Stefan Tibus

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Mar 23, 2002, 1:43:41 AM3/23/02
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Hello,

can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e
Notebooks? (7249-851/860)
Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L

Thanks,
Stefan


Martin Etteldorf

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Mar 23, 2002, 3:36:50 AM3/23/02
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Stefan Tibus <Stefan...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e
> Notebooks? (7249-851/860)

I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display?

> Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L

4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow.

Martin.

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Norman Levin

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Mar 23, 2002, 9:17:00 AM3/23/02
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"Martin Etteldorf" <ette...@schlund.de> wrote in message
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| Stefan Tibus <Stefan...@t-online.de> wrote:
| > Hello,
| >
| > can anybody tell if a special version of AIX is required for the PPC603e
| > Notebooks? (7249-851/860)
|
| I hope the seller told you that both have a defective Display?
|
| > Or do they run the standard AIX's? e.g. 4.1.5, 4.3.3, 5L
|
| 4.1.5 with some enhancements. Plain 4.1.5 _should_ work somehow.
|
It is possible to install 4.2 on it BUT if you want X, you must save the
Xserver from 4.1.5 since IBM decommitted support for the 860 as quickly as
they supported it. Else, you can run in text mode and maybe use an xstation
to come into the laptop for graphics work. That would be rich - using a
linux laptop as an xstation into an aix laptop server.
norm


Norman Levin

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Mar 23, 2002, 9:23:17 AM3/23/02
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"Norman Levin" <norma...@XXXXattglobal.net> wrote in message
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ps - the 860 only supported a token ring card?? maybe an ethernet. If you
don't
have the right card - you may have to do ODM hacks to get a generic card
working.
IF you have the right card and can talk to your linux machine, you will want
to
start xfs on aix to serve the fonts to linux. Modify the XF86Config file so
it
knows that fonts are coming from the networked/aix machine or your x screens
will
look kind of ugly - but it will work.
norm
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Martin Etteldorf

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Mar 23, 2002, 8:25:23 PM3/23/02
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Norman Levin <norma...@xxxxattglobal.net> wrote:
> | That would be rich - using a
> | linux laptop as an xstation into an aix laptop server.
> | norm
>
> ps - the 860 only supported a token ring card?? maybe an ethernet. If you

The old "IBM Auto 16/4 PCMCIA Token Ring Adapter" will work (the one
with the chequered Hologram), both the new Auto 16/4 (with the allover
IBM Hologram) and the Turbo 16/4 are not supported.
With Ethernet you are stuck to the "IBM Credit Card 10 MBit Ethernet
Adapter" with BNC or RJ45.

> don't
> have the right card - you may have to do ODM hacks to get a generic card
> working.

I doubt it'll be that easy. You don't have the VPD to some generic Ether-
net Card and without the VPD it won't run.

Stefan Tibus

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Mar 24, 2002, 10:39:14 AM3/24/02
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Hi Martin,

he didn't reply to my question on that, but as he wrote "nur mit Monitor betriebsbereit"
I supposed something like that - and thus the machine is not really useful....

Thanks all for the info,
Stefan

Martin Etteldorf

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Mar 24, 2002, 2:29:51 PM3/24/02
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Hi Stefan,

Stefan Tibus <Stefan...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> he didn't reply to my question on that, but as he wrote "nur mit Monitor betriebsbereit"
> I supposed something like that - and thus the machine is not really useful....

You may have more luck at ebay.com or ebay.com.au...
got mine (96 MB Ram, 1.2 GB Disk) from ebay australia for EUR 250 plus
EUR 100 for shipping and customs #-)

Even if the seller won't ship to germany there is always a way to get it.
Mine was collected and shipped by a kind person from comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware.
Maybe someone here will do so, too if you ask.
I had to wait two months but it should arrive this week, finally :-)

Clive Sparkes

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Mar 27, 2002, 4:43:20 AM3/27/02
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Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to
the 850 (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these
machines.
4.1.5 - OK.
4.2.1 - OK.
4.3.3 - Command line only, no X. Also you cannot do a
migration/preservation install from earlier versions due to the total
incompatability of devices.pci.ed101073.rte with 4.3.3. Also you will
need something to act as console until you can install the
devices.pci.1c104ac2 drivers (from the 4.2.1 CDs).
5.x - forget it, as well as the device driver not being supported the
pcmcia cards are not supported.

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Clive

Martin Etteldorf

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:21:28 AM3/27/02
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Hi Clive,

Clive Sparkes <deat...@another.com> wrote:

> Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to
> the 850 (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these
> machines.
> 4.1.5 - OK.
> 4.2.1 - OK.

Interesting... 4.2.1 will _not_ do X on a 860, command line only. One
has to go with 4.1.5(.01) or use 4.2.x with the X11.rte.* from 4.1.5.
My 860 arrived yesterday with 4.2.1 installed... no way to get X running.
After installing the 4.1.5 X11.rte filesets, X11 worked just fine...
However, I did a clean install of 4.1.5 which is, by the way, a bit
smaller than 4.2.1.

Martin.

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Clive Sparkes

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:47:29 AM3/27/02
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Martin Etteldorf wrote:
>
> Hi Clive,
>
> Clive Sparkes <deat...@another.com> wrote:
>
> > Others have already commented on the 860, so I'll restrict comments to
> > the 850 (7249-851). No special version of AIX is required for these
> > machines.
> > 4.1.5 - OK.
> > 4.2.1 - OK.
>
> Interesting... 4.2.1 will _not_ do X on a 860, command line only. One
> has to go with 4.1.5(.01) or use 4.2.x with the X11.rte.* from 4.1.5.
> My 860 arrived yesterday with 4.2.1 installed... no way to get X running.
> After installing the 4.1.5 X11.rte filesets, X11 worked just fine...
> However, I did a clean install of 4.1.5 which is, by the way, a bit
> smaller than 4.2.1.
>
> Martin.
>
Yep, for some reason IBM chose to include X support for the G10 (used in
the 850) into 4.2.1 but not support for the GT20 (used in the 860).

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Clive

Norman Levin

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:12:58 PM3/27/02
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The 850 and its 'cheaper' brother, the 820 had a different graphic adapter
than the 860.
The old units actually can run newer version of aix then the 860 which were
supported officially
for exactly ONE release - 4.1.5. This support/lack of was clearly one of
the finest examples
of IBMs sticking it to the customer.
norm - still U(YTT5ed off - Levin

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