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killahertz  
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 4:01 am
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From: "killahertz" <killahe...@world-domination.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:00:53 +0200
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 4:00 am
Subject: problem with telnet
Hi All,

When I try to telnet to one of my sun servers, this error appears:

# telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.

SunOS 5.8

Connection closed by foreign host.

And then I'm returned to the prompt.  Any ideas what the problem is?

Thanks in advance,
AG

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davide  
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 5:53 am
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From: dav...@yahoo.com
Date: 14 Oct 2002 09:53:27 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 5:53 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin killahertz <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote:

> When I try to telnet to one of my sun servers, this error appears:
> SunOS 5.8
> Connection closed by foreign host.

See on the log files what error is logged, otherwise there isn't much to do.

Davide


 
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 7:50 am
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From: daveh...@spamcop.net
Date: 14 Oct 2002 11:50:29 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 7:50 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin killahertz <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
> When I try to telnet to one of my sun servers, this error appears:
> SunOS 5.8
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> And then I'm returned to the prompt.  Any ideas what the problem is?

I've had this happen when the system ran out of file descriptors...
from memory, fd_lim_cur and/or fd_lim_max, but a  quick google would
find them.  

Is the system otherwise behaving?  Can you log in directly to the console?
The only other time I saw this was when I helped someone out who had
changed the ownership of /dev to someone other than root (actually
did a chown -R from $VAR/*, without first setting $VAR, as root.)
From that day on, he's been known as chown-boy ;)

So...how's it behaving otherwise?  Is it doing what it's supposed to, or
just generally b0rken?

Dave Hinz


 
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Oscar del Rio  
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 12:26 pm
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From: "Oscar del Rio" <del...@mie.utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:07:29 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

> When I try to telnet to one of my sun servers, this error appears:

> # telnet localhost
> SunOS 5.8
> Connection closed by foreign host.

> And then I'm returned to the prompt.  Any ideas what the problem is?

it could be a corrupted or hacked /bin/login
Can you ssh into the server?  (sshd does not use /bin/login)

 
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Rev. Don Kool  
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 12:31 pm
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From: "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:30:35 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

        Perhaps the system is using TCP Wrappers.

> Thanks in advance,

        No problem.

                Hope this helps,
                        Don

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 More options Oct 14 2002, 2:34 pm
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From: Chris Cox <ccox_nopenott...@airmail.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:34:00 -0500
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

Any number of things... the one I'm think of is that
you've got tcpwrappers installed and have not opened
up telnet in the allow file for localhost access.

For example, someone has denied ALL, but not allowed
anything to come in.

But there could be any number of reasons...


 
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Dietrich Kanz  
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 3:02 pm
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From: "Dietrich Kanz" <dietrich.k...@mnet-online.de>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:02:35 +0200
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

"killahertz" <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote in message

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I had the same problem yesterday with my Linux box.
The problem was that I didn´t install my telnet server. I think Solaris uses
the in.telnetd too. (look into inetd.conf)
check if in.telnetd is at its place

Maybe that helps


 
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 3:18 pm
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From: Barry Margolin <bar...@genuity.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:13:31 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In article <aof4cf$e7...@svr8.m-online.net>,

If he didn't install the telnet server, how would he get the "SunOS 5.8"
greeting message, since that's sent by the telnet server?

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 More options Oct 14 2002, 3:29 pm
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From: daveh...@spamcop.net
Date: 14 Oct 2002 19:28:59 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin Dietrich Kanz <dietrich.k...@mnet-online.de> wrote:

> I had the same problem yesterday with my Linux box.
> The problem was that I didn´t install my telnet server. I think Solaris uses
> the in.telnetd too. (look into inetd.conf)
> check if in.telnetd is at its place

Another good point.  Maybe the original poster would be so kind as to come
back and give us more information, like when did it last work, if anyone else
has root on the box, how he normally gets in, that sort of  thing.

Between us, we could guess for a good long time, but without more information
from the OP, or feedback that he's even here, there's not alot of point to it.

Dave Hinz


 
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 More options Oct 14 2002, 3:31 pm
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From: "Oscar del Rio" <del...@mie.utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:16:57 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 14 2002 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

> > # telnet localhost
> > Trying 127.0.0.1...
> > Connected to localhost.
> > Escape character is '^]'.

> > SunOS 5.8

> > Connection closed by foreign host.

> Any number of things... the one I'm think of is that
> you've got tcpwrappers installed and have not opened
> up telnet in the allow file for localhost access.

If it was a tcpwrappers problem the "SunOS" banner
would not be displayed.

 
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 5:05 am
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From: "wavelet" <li...@lucent.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:00:47 +0800
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 5:00 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
check /dev/default/login to make sure that
#CONSOLE=/dev/console

"killahertz" <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote in message

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 7:01 am
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From: Andreas Fenner <Andreas.Fen...@alcatel.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:00:31 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 7:00 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

wavelet wrote:

> check /dev/default/login to make sure that
> #CONSOLE=/dev/console

Das hat damit NIX zu tun!
Egal was da drin steht - der login prompt müßte kommen.

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 10:02 am
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From: daveh...@spamcop.net
Date: 15 Oct 2002 14:02:17 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 10:02 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin Andreas Fenner <Andreas.Fen...@alcatel.de> wrote:

> wavelet wrote:

>> check /dev/default/login to make sure that
>> #CONSOLE=/dev/console

> Das hat damit NIX zu tun!
> Egal was da drin steht - der login prompt müßte kommen.

Exactly; that's one reason the original poster has to come back and
clarify and/or answer some of the clarifying questions if there's
any hope to get a good answer.

The fact that he's getting the SunOS 5.8 identifier does show that
telnet is responding on port 23, inetd is firing it up, and so on.
Without knowing if this is new behavior which worked previously, or
any of the other questions, ...

Dave Hinz


 
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Andreas Fenner  
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 10:25 am
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From: Andreas Fenner <Andreas.Fen...@alcatel.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:25:24 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 10:25 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

Andreas Fenner wrote:

> wavelet wrote:

> > check /dev/default/login to make sure that
> > #CONSOLE=/dev/console

> Das hat damit NIX zu tun!
> Egal was da drin steht - der login prompt müßte kommen.

Oops - sorry, english newsgroup :-)

It does not matter to what CONSOLE is set in this file.
In each case there should be a login prompt!

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 1:38 pm
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From: Casper H.S. Dik <Casper....@Sun.COM>
Date: 15 Oct 2002 17:39:09 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

daveh...@spamcop.net writes:
>In comp.unix.admin killahertz <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> When I try to telnet to one of my sun servers, this error appears:
>> SunOS 5.8
>> Connection closed by foreign host.
>> And then I'm returned to the prompt.  Any ideas what the problem is?
>I've had this happen when the system ran out of file descriptors...
>from memory, fd_lim_cur and/or fd_lim_max, but a  quick google would
>find them.  

The system will not run out of file decriptors; the limits you mention
are per-process; there are no system wide limits.

The immediate closure can point to:
        - missing/damaged in.telnetd
        - TCP wrappers refusing connection

Also, there are a few "installable backdoors" out there that have not
been properly debugged that can cause all sorts of funny symptoms.

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Dietrich Kanz  
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 1:40 pm
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From: "Dietrich Kanz" <dietrich.k...@mnet-online.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:40:32 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

"Barry Margolin" <bar...@genuity.net> wrote in message

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Well try it. I got the greeting message too!!! And then it threw me out.
After I installed the telnet server it worked.
But as I said, that was a Linux box and not Solaris.

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 1:54 pm
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From: daveh...@spamcop.net
Date: 15 Oct 2002 17:54:15 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin Dietrich Kanz <dietrich.k...@mnet-online.de> wrote:

> "Barry Margolin" <bar...@genuity.net> wrote in message
> news:vHEq9.17$nR1.1556@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...

>> If he didn't install the telnet server, how would he get the "SunOS 5.8"
>> greeting message, since that's sent by the telnet server?
> Well try it. I got the greeting message too!!! And then it threw me out.
> After I installed the telnet server it worked.

Hm, so inetd is popping up that message?  That's ... unexpected...
I believe you; don't get me wrong, but I'm surprised.

> But as I said, that was a Linux box and not Solaris.

Cool.  Didn't know that.  Something to add to my "things to understand"
list.

Dave


 
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Dietrich Kanz  
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 2:01 pm
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From: "Dietrich Kanz" <dietrich.k...@mnet-online.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:01:59 +0200
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

<daveh...@spamcop.net> wrote in message

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Seems so,
but Linux is a bit more descriptive here. Thats the complete message:

voodoo# telnet localhost
Trying ::1...
telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host

When /usr/sbin/in.telnetd is at its place it works.


 
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 2:18 pm
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From: Barry Margolin <bar...@genuity.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:12:39 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In article <aohl6j$c8...@svr8.m-online.net>,

I don't see a system greeting message in that output.  The "Connected to"
message means that inetd is listening on the port.  The "SunOS 5.8" message
on Solaris comes *later* than that, and it's produced by in.telnetd after
inetd successfully starts it.

If the connection closes after that message, it means that some resource
that in.telnetd needs is exhausted; perhaps it has run out of ptys (except
I thought that it prints a more descriptive message in that case).

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 2:28 pm
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From: daveh...@spamcop.net
Date: 15 Oct 2002 18:28:05 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In comp.unix.admin Barry Margolin <bar...@genuity.net> wrote:

> In article <aohl6j$c8...@svr8.m-online.net>,
> If the connection closes after that message, it means that some resource
> that in.telnetd needs is exhausted; perhaps it has run out of ptys (except
> I thought that it prints a more descriptive message in that case).

I don't recall about that, and I'm not keen on reproducing it for
this, but I know that if it can't spawn any more processes, it'll just
fail as the OP described.  BTDT.

Dave


 
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Joel Atkin  
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 3:34 pm
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From: "Joel Atkin" <jat...@naturaldata.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:27:08 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
I had a similar problem a couple of years ago an a Sun 2.5.x box.... the
problem had to do with a bunch of resources (I forget which ones) getting
maxed out.  I believe there were *many* zombies on the box... but it was a
while back and my memory is gone.  Also, we had about 15 users concurently
pounding on the box each day.

A reboot of the box solved the problem.

Anyway... if you are getting the greeting message, this indicates that the
Login shell is starting up.  I believe Telnet isn't the issue, rather it has
something to do with login.

peace,

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 More options Oct 15 2002, 4:04 pm
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From: Barry Margolin <bar...@genuity.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:04:24 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet
In article <g_Zq9.39579$vX.9...@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,

Joel Atkin <jat...@naturaldata.com> wrote:
>Anyway... if you are getting the greeting message, this indicates that the
>Login shell is starting up.  I believe Telnet isn't the issue, rather it has
>something to do with login.

I don't think you really mean "login shell" -- that's the shell process
that runs *after* you login.  So I think you mean the login process.

But if the login process were starting up, he'd be getting the "login:"
prompt, which he didn't get.  He's just getting the "SunOS 5.8" greeting
message, which I think is sent by in.telnetd before it runs "login".

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Rev. Don Kool  
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 More options Oct 15 2002, 9:11 pm
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From: "Rev. Don Kool" <old...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:10:31 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 15 2002 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

        So you haven't tried it on a UNIX system.

                Hope this helps,
                        Don

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 More options Oct 16 2002, 2:11 am
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From: "Dan" <b...@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 02:10:10 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 16 2002 2:10 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

"killahertz" <killahe...@world-domination.net> wrote in message

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This is probably my ignorance showing, but is there a reason you are
telneting to loopback IP address?

 
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 More options Oct 16 2002, 6:57 am
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin, comp.unix.admin, comp.unix.solaris
From: Andreas Fenner <Andreas.Fen...@alcatel.de>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:57:19 +0200
Local: Wed, Oct 16 2002 6:57 am
Subject: Re: problem with telnet

Barry Margolin wrote:
> But if the login process were starting up, he'd be getting the "login:"
> prompt, which he didn't get.  He's just getting the "SunOS 5.8" greeting
> message, which I think is sent by in.telnetd before it runs "login".

correct! The banner is displayed by the in.telnetd.

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