Account Options

  1. Sign in
The old Google Groups will be going away soon, but your browser is incompatible with the new version.
Google Groups Home
« Groups Home
comp.theory
+ new post
About this group
Subscribe to this group
This is a Usenet group - learn more
Message from discussion The answer to the Halting Problem stored within Permutations of Internal States?
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
H.J. Sander Bruggink  
View profile  
 More options May 16 2012, 4:46 am
Newsgroups: comp.theory, sci.logic
From: "H.J. Sander Bruggink" <sander.brugg...@uni-due.de>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:46:43 +0200
Local: Wed, May 16 2012 4:46 am
Subject: Re: The answer to the Halting Problem stored within Permutations of Internal States?
Print | View thread | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author
On 05/16/2012 12:49 AM, Peter Olcott wrote:

> On 5/15/2012 5:37 PM, Joshua Cranmer wrote:
>> On 5/15/2012 4:51 PM, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2012 10:52 AM, Joshua Cranmer wrote:
>>>> If we accept the hypothesis that there is an infinite amount of
>>>> knowledge [1], then your Turing machine cannot exist, since a finite
>>>> number of states cannot store an infinite amount of memory.

>>> It can store it on the infinite tape.

At any time during the Turing Machine's computation, this "infinite"
tape only contains a finite amount of information.

>> You seriously believe that an amateur mathematician with at best a
>> Bachelor's in CS seriously knows more about "the mathematics of the
>> semantics of natural language" than the people who formalized
>> mathematics in the first place?

> Absolutely positively when these same people insist that the empty
> string contains semantic meaning.

They don't claim that the empty string has semantic meaning of itself,
they claim that NO STRING has semantic meaning of itself. You need some
kind of mapping from strings to meanings to understand the strings, and
this mapping may indeed attach a meaning to the empty string.

Just to show you what I mean, please answer the following questions:
* Wem denen amlacht diem pro elvenbas?
* Wie vond de zwaartekracht uit?
* Was ist die Bedeutung der leeren Zeichenkette?

> You are still incorrect on this point. What is completely obvious to me
> seems to escape everyone of you.

Since it is completely obvious to everyone else that you are wrong, you
might condider the possibility that you actually are wrong.

Sander


 
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.
Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2013 Google