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Re: groff to MS-Word (or *maybe* rtf) ?

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Jamie

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Mar 12, 2009, 8:08:55 AM3/12/09
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In <49b7f36f$0$31199$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,
jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> mentions:
>On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:56 +0000, Jamie wrote:
>
>> Is there a groff to ms-word converter? or groff to openoffice or RTF?
>
>Maybe turn the groff into something else, (latex, html ) then turn that
>into ms-word.

I've been trying with groff_html, to openoffice and then getting openoffice
to save in MS-Word.

You know... any time I've tried to use MS-Office or OpenOffice, I'm forced
to ask myself what is so $!@% easy about it?!?!

Save as.. examine, it's not MS-Word.

Try again..

Save as.. it's a microsoft XML something-or-other, but it doesn't have
the document contents, just some weird layout stuff.

Throw up my hands, attempt to just surrender and create the document using
openoffice "oh so easy" wysiwyg word mangling "productivity" software, try to
set the style of a paragraph, observe that it's not set, set again, observe that
you can't "unset" it.. poke around these stupid icons for an answer, not finding
one.. everything you type is some awful centered italic crap.

Blah! give up again... how can anyone put up with this crap! moreover, WHAT IS SO
DARN EASY ABOUT "Office Software" compared to troff/groff!!!!

I mean, sure, with groff you have to look up the directives, but at least when
you say "italic" or "courier" it STAYS THAT WAY UNTIL YOU TURN IT OFF and you
know exactly whats in the document BECAUSE YOU PUT IT THERE..

Grr.. "office productivity software" is an oxymoron. Spend 45 minutes learning
groff and you'll be more "productive" than an entire afternoon with
"Mis-Fortune office".

Man I love groff. It just works.

Jamie (going back to try again after I calm down..)
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jellybean stonerfish

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Mar 12, 2009, 10:50:15 PM3/12/09
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On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:08:55 +0000, Jamie wrote:

> In <49b7f36f$0$31199$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>, jellybean stonerfish
> <stone...@geocities.com> mentions:
>>On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:56 +0000, Jamie wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a groff to ms-word converter? or groff to openoffice or RTF?
>>
>>Maybe turn the groff into something else, (latex, html ) then turn that
>>into ms-word.
>
> I've been trying with groff_html, to openoffice and then getting
> openoffice to save in MS-Word.
>

I don't know groff or latex. I like plain text. But I think I read
somewhere that latex to msword works pretty well. Can you get latex from
groff?

That is after you calm down.....


Jamie

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Mar 13, 2009, 5:25:25 AM3/13/09
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In <49b9c9e7$0$31213$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>,

jellybean stonerfish <stone...@geocities.com> mentions:
>On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:08:55 +0000, Jamie wrote:
>
>> In <49b7f36f$0$31199$bd46...@news.dslextreme.com>, jellybean stonerfish
>> <stone...@geocities.com> mentions:
>>>On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:56 +0000, Jamie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a groff to ms-word converter? or groff to openoffice or RTF?
>>>
>>>Maybe turn the groff into something else, (latex, html ) then turn that
>>>into ms-word.
>>
>> I've been trying with groff_html, to openoffice and then getting
>> openoffice to save in MS-Word.
>>
>
>I don't know groff or latex. I like plain text. But I think I read
>somewhere that latex to msword works pretty well. Can you get latex from
>groff?
>
>That is after you calm down.....

Hhehehe thanks!

Yea, plain text is best when it will work. (and it's pretty easy to go
from 'roff to text, afterall, it /is/ text)

That was one of the avenues I looked into, groff can't (as far as I know) go to
TeX, but it can go to DVI (the same intermediate format of TeX based systems)
so, one would imagine, you could go from DVI to ms-word.

I can't find anything to go from DVI to MS-Word.

Unfortunately, searching is sub-optimal, DVI is also a standard for video
hardware.

Jamie

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Mar 13, 2009, 7:30:45 AM3/13/09
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Jamie escribió:
> ...

> That was one of the avenues I looked into, groff can't (as far as I know) go to
> TeX, but it can go to DVI (the same intermediate format of TeX based systems)
> so, one would imagine, you could go from DVI to ms-word.
>
> I can't find anything to go from DVI to MS-Word.

Probably because it is am impossible task (besides converting it to
images and importing them as figures.

DVI is a page-description notation, not a document-description one. You
would better try groff -> HTML -> Ms-Word.

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Andrew Gabriel

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Mar 30, 2009, 4:05:02 PM3/30/09
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In article <gpdg56$hph$1...@heraldo.rediris.es>,

You really need to do the conversion at the macro package level.
By the time you've got down to the [gtn]roff level, you've just
got bits of bold text, bits of italics, positioning, etc.
What you really want is the context carried across such as level
1 headings, bullet lists, etc.

I don't know if there are any converters at the macro package
(mm, ms, me, an, ...) level.

Otherwise, you could just feed through soelim(1) and deroff(1)
to get the bare text, and then put formatting back in by hand
afterwards.

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Andrew Gabriel
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John Redmond

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Apr 4, 2009, 7:21:54 PM4/4/09
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Jamie:

Yep, I agree with most of what you have said. I like to think that plain
text might have a comeback. Why don't you look at my lexxia site
(www.limpidsoft.com). It gives you a way to convert (almost) plain text to
XML, XHTML and LaTeX/pdf, as well as other nice things. And it's free for
Linux and Windows.

John Redmond,
Sydney, Australia.

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