XML tutorial
Fagnoli Cristiano
Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
I try to read the W3C specification but it is not easy to understand.
Thanks in advance
Charles F. Goldfarb
wrote:
Several XML books have tutorials, and BobDuCharme has written an annotated
version of the W3C spec that is much easier to understand. See: www.xmlbooks.com
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Andy Dingley
>Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
Try the usual sources - searching around Dejanews for this newsgroup
will give you some pointers. Anything by Tim Bray is probably good,
Wrox have some good ones, and Paul Prescod's Annotated XML Handbook
is a good general coverage.
Some comments from my own recent experience in learning XML:
- XML is only part of the story - There's just as much learning to do
on things like parsers and integration with the DOM.
- Be wary of old XML books - the specification has changed
drastically. Much of the Charles F Goldfarb range (as one example) is
not only less than helpful now, but positively damaging if you take
them as gospel. I wasted a lot of time after building a design based
on "XML by Example", then finding it was almost entirely obsolete.
- Example-based XML documentation is often more useful as early stage
introduction than protocol-based documentation.
- Watch out for Microsoft going their own way (plus ca change).
They've stuck with the old XML specification on some of the XSL
features, particularly in supporting embedded scripting. For once they
seem to have got it right and the W3C wrong !
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Oliver Meyer
> "Fagnoli Cristiano" <cr...@uno.dinamica.it> a écrit :
>
> >Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
>
[...]
> Some comments from my own recent experience in learning XML:
[...]
> - Be wary of old XML books - the specification has changed
> drastically. Much of the Charles F Goldfarb range (as one example) is
> not only less than helpful now, but positively damaging if you take
> them as gospel. I wasted a lot of time after building a design based
> on "XML by Example", then finding it was almost entirely obsolete.
[...]
> Smert' Spamionem
Is "The SGML FAQ Book: Understanding the Foundation of HTML and XML" and
old XML Book already? The questions seem to be up to date. Are the
answers as well?
Oliver Meyer
Bill Trippe
Andy Dingley <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
news:36e8cc02....@news.demon.co.uk...
>- Be wary of old XML books - the specification has changed
>drastically. Much of the Charles F Goldfarb range (as one example) is
>not only less than helpful now, but positively damaging if you take
>them as gospel. I wasted a lot of time after building a design based
>on "XML by Example", then finding it was almost entirely obsolete.
>
Could you expand on this a bit? My experience has been that XSL has changed
drastically, especially recently, but XML has been relatively stable. I'd
like to hear a few more details so I know what you think the pitfalls are.
Thanks,
Bill
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New Millennium Publishing
Content and Editorial Solutions
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Andy Dingley
>My experience has been that XSL has changed
>drastically, especially recently, but XML has been relatively stable.
Sorry if I was unclear - it was the XSL changes that bit me.
Despite their somewhat over generous contents lists (24 pages ?!) and
the obsolescence issue, I do like the Goldfarb books. I hope they'll
produce some revised editions.
Ari M. Weinstein
DuCharme, is unlikely to be out of date. It contains the official 1.0
specification which was finalized over a year ago, in February 1998. This
book has quite a few XML examples which I'm finding very useful.
Hopefully XSL, XLink and XPointer will be finalized this summer. They're all
currently working drafts, and subject to change.
AMW
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bob thickens
tutorial
Charles F. Goldfarb wrote in message <36eacebb...@news.alink.net>...
>On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:13:12 +0100, "Fagnoli Cristiano"
<cr...@uno.dinamica.it>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
Andrea Cataldo
>
> Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
> I try to read the W3C specification but it is not easy to understand.
You can go to the site http://www.xmlinfo.it where you can find a
tutorial for the beginners (that it will be located at
http://www.software.ibm.com/xml/education/index.html) or any document
you need about XML.
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Charles F. Goldfarb
All of the books in my series are based on XML 1.0, which is the current spec.
When draft specs are discussed, we endeavor to point out their status to the
reader. XSL has changed recently, as Bill Trippe says, and the DOM spec has been
finalized (without the drastic changes that occurred with XSL). These changes
have affected small portions of some of the books in the series.
"XML by Example" has a chapter on XSL and a chapter on the DOM, and it clearly
identifies both as being works in progress.
"The XML Handbook" has one chapter on XSL basic concepts (which are still valid,
though the syntax has changed) and one chapter on a freeware XSL stylesheet
editor (which may still be helpful, although the tool itself is no longer so).
There are warnings about the volatility of the XSL spec.
"Designing XML Internet Applications" has a lengthy chapter on the DOM, which it
identifies as a working draft. XSL is mentioned only in passing.
Neither "Structuring XML Documents" nor "XML: The Annotated Specification"
discuss XSL or the DOM.
Volatility in high tech is a fact of life. For an Internet standard, XML has so
far been remarkably immune from it.
--
Charles F. Goldfarb
>"Fagnoli Cristiano" <cr...@uno.dinamica.it> a écrit :
>
>>Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
>
>Paul Prescod's Annotated XML Handbook
>is a good general coverage.
Thanks for the recommendation, but it isn't clear which of two books in my
series you refer to:
"The XML Handbook", by Paul Prescod and myself, or "XML: The Annotated
Specification", by Bob DuCharme. The former contains tutorials for newcomers and
the non-technical; the latter is an annotated and illustrated spec and would be
considered "tutorial" only for people accustomed to learning from specs.
Andy Dingley
>Thanks for the recommendation, but it isn't clear which of two books in my
>series you refer to:
Sorry, my mistake, I would recommend the Paul Prescod "XML Handbook"
as a tutorial. My own favourite is the "Annotated" one (and the one I
still keep on my desk), but as you say, it's intended for people who
would be happy to read the raw spec, they're just trrying to do it
more quickly.
Rob Nichols
there is also Tim Brays Annotated ver. of the 1.0 spec...
http://www.xml.com/axml/testaxml.htm
Rob Nichols
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bob thickens wrote in message <7ccppf$b...@newsops.execpc.com>...
>microsoft has a really nice xml tutorial on their web site. search for xml
>tutorial
>
>Charles F. Goldfarb wrote in message <36eacebb...@news.alink.net>...
>>On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 00:13:12 +0100, "Fagnoli Cristiano"
><cr...@uno.dinamica.it>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Where can i find a tutorial about XML.
>>>I try to read the W3C specification but it is not easy to understand.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>
>>Several XML books have tutorials, and BobDuCharme has written an annotated
>>version of the W3C spec that is much easier to understand. See:
>www.xmlbooks.com
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