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From: "Jack" <no1email...@hotmail.com>
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"Robin Fairbairns" <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message 
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> "Jack" <no1email...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> "Robin Fairbairns" <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote...
>>> "Jack" <no1email...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> "defaults" tends to mean "what the package (that we've told you to use)
>>> gives you".  funny, i thought it was ovious.
>>
>> Well, funnily enough, it doesn't *give* me anything, as such, other than 
>> the
>> page layout. I have to write a command of some kind if I want a new 
>> heading.
>
> ho ho, very satirical.  you know, as well as i do, what was meant by
> that "gives".

I must be missing something in what you take to be a dash of humour. All the 
defaults do is give me a page layout and various other stuff to do with 
typesetting. If I want a heading, as I said, I need to put in a command. 
Sorry but you and I are obviously speaking at cross-purposes. Maybe you are 
tacitly saying that the command "\section{}", which you hadn't mentioned, 
produces the defaults of font, text positioning etc, in which case this is 
something I didn't know.

>
>>> i've never encountered such an arrangement, and (obviously) neither have
>>> the people instructing you to use ams macros for the job: they just
>>> won't do that.  (i would suggest that this weird arrangement of melding
>>> the mathematical structure with the structure of the textual discourse,
>>> explains why none of us understood what was going on when you first
>>> posted
>>
>> Well that's weird as I just got it from studying well-known mathematics
>> journals.
>
> interesting.  i've not done that sort of thing since the early 1970s,
> but the _practising_ mathematicians[*] in this thread might be
> interested to know the names of the journals you are talking about.
>

Journal of Number Theory was one of the ones I studied, but I am not sure 
whether it had *exactly* the layout I referenced. It certainly wasn't far 
off. Anyhow, they were all from the open shelves of the university library; 
I did notice that some of the journals seemed to vary, quite liberally, the 
way they organised their heirarchies of headings and numbers according to 
the article. I can't see why mine should be so objectionable, especially 
since it conforms what you get by using
\section{}
\subsection{} and
\sub-section{},
as I had already pointed out. So is it the numbering (of Remarks, 
Corollaries and Definitions as sub-subheadings) that you find unsual?