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Jack  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 10:38 am
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From: "Jack" <nomailth...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:38:40 +0100
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 10:38 am
Subject: Aligned equations and brackets
When you've got \left( and \right) or \left\{ and \right\}, with the
respective left- and right-hand features placed either side of a line break
in an aligned equation, is there any way to prevent this arrangement from
yielding errors? Or is it preferable just to have small brackets/braces?

 
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Robin Fairbairns  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 11:06 am
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From: Robin Fairbairns <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:06:36 +0100
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 11:06 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

"Jack" <nomailth...@hotmail.com> writes:
> When you've got \left( and \right) or \left\{ and \right\}, with the
> respective left- and right-hand features placed either side of a line break
> in an aligned equation, is there any way to prevent this arrangement from
> yielding errors? Or is it preferable just to have small brackets/braces?

basically:

\left( <stuff> \right. \\
\left. <stuff> \right)

the "." means "no delimiter here, thanks.

this doesn't carry the size of the first line forward, but it's better
than nothing (imo)
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Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
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Lee Rudolph  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 11:14 am
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From: Lee Rudolph <lrudo...@panix.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:14:08 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 11:14 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Of course (as you know but Jack probably doesn't)
the (vertical) "size of the first line" can be
carried forward (and the vertical size of the next
line carried backward) by using \vphantom:

\left( <stuff_1> \vphantom{<stuff_2>} right .\\
\left. \vphantom{<stuff_1>} <stuff_2> left)

or the like.

Lee Rudolph


 
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Robin Fairbairns  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 12:11 pm
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From: Robin Fairbairns <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:11:35 +0100
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

(of course i do, but it didn't occur to me.  old age encroaches...)

> the (vertical) "size of the first line" can be
> carried forward (and the vertical size of the next
> line carried backward) by using \vphantom:

> \left( <stuff_1> \vphantom{<stuff_2>} right .\\
> \left. \vphantom{<stuff_1>} <stuff_2> left)

> or the like.

perhaps i should stick that info in the faq.  then i wouldn't have to
remember it.  of course, no-one (who needs to) reads the faq, anyway, so
it's a bit silly  to keep working on it.  but it gives reason to my
life, in a small way.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
sorry about all this posting.  i'll go back to sleep in a bit.

 
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Axel Berger  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 2:02 pm
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From: Axel Berger <Axel.Ber...@Gmx.De>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:03:12 +0200
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> perhaps i should stick that info in the faq.  then i wouldn't have to
> remember it.  of course, no-one (who needs to) reads the faq, anyway, so
> it's a bit silly  to keep working on it.  but it gives reason to my
> life, in a small way.

Yes please. I never knew this and just thought, what a shame I'm bound
to forget before ever needing it. And, whatever you say, I do refer to
FAQ when I've forgotten how to do stuff or never knew in the first
place.

Axel


 
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Charles Hottel  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 3:00 pm
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From: "Charles Hottel" <chot...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:00:51 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

"Robin Fairbairns" <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message

news:qfpq4n8ybs.fsf@dev-rf10-linux.cl.cam.ac.uk...

Where is the FAQ located? Thanks.

 
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Lee Rudolph  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 3:08 pm
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From: Lee Rudolph <lrudo...@panix.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:08:14 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

"Charles Hottel" <chot...@earthlink.net> writes:
>Where is the FAQ located? Thanks.

Ah.  Now *there's* a Frequently Asked Question.

Here's the access to it that I use:

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

though I'm sure there are others.

Lee Rudolph


 
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Robin Fairbairns  
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 More options Oct 12 2012, 4:14 pm
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From: Robin Fairbairns <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:14:23 +0100
Local: Fri, Oct 12 2012 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Lee Rudolph <lrudo...@panix.com> writes:
> "Charles Hottel" <chot...@earthlink.net> writes:

>>Where is the FAQ located? Thanks.

> Ah.  Now *there's* a Frequently Asked Question.

hmmmm

> Here's the access to it that I use:

> http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

> though I'm sure there are others.

i usually quote http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq (on the grounds that it's
easier to type ... it's a server redirect and ends up on something like
the above).

note that the appearance of the faq (on the web) is largely a product of
the 90s.  i tinker with it (the appearance) from time to time, but have
never really got my act together for making it look "moddun".

maybe that will all change when i retire.  there's only so many hours
you can spend digging the garden and tidying the house (the latter is my
sole responsibility since my wife's rather visually disabled).
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Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
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Jellby  
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 More options Oct 13 2012, 2:17 am
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From: Jellby <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:16:30 +0200
Local: Sat, Oct 13 2012 2:16 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> of course, no-one (who needs to) reads the faq, anyway, so
> it's a bit silly  to keep working on it.  but it gives reason to my
> life, in a small way.

That's not true, but those who read the FAQ (and other documentation) can
often solve their problems by themselves and do not ask publicly ;)

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Axel Berger  
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 More options Oct 13 2012, 3:01 am
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From: Axel Berger <Axel.Ber...@Gmx.De>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:01:35 +0200
Local: Sat, Oct 13 2012 3:01 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> but have never really got my act together for making it look "moddun".

Plwase don't. The web was designed by a physicist to get work done
efficiently and has been under attack from the advertising idiot crowd
ever since. Most of what you see today is a dysfunctional broken shell
under a veneer of supposedly sleek looks.

N.B: "Modern" was the buzzword of the twenties to forties, "new time"
was one of Adolf Hitler's favourites and in my household both "new" and
modern" are four letter words (well, on average they are).

Axel


 
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Nicola Talbot  
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 More options Oct 13 2012, 5:32 am
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From: Nicola Talbot <n.tal...@uea.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:31:58 +0100
Local: Sat, Oct 13 2012 5:31 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets
On 13/10/12 07:16, Jellby wrote:

> Robin Fairbairns wrote:

>> of course, no-one (who needs to) reads the faq, anyway, so
>> it's a bit silly  to keep working on it.  but it gives reason to my
>> life, in a small way.

> That's not true, but those who read the FAQ (and other documentation) can
> often solve their problems by themselves and do not ask publicly ;)

I agree! From time to time I find myself thinking: okay, I've done this
before, how did I do it? Oh yes, I looked it up in the faq. Let's have
another look for the solution there.

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Nicola Talbot
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John Harper  
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 More options Oct 14 2012, 6:54 pm
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From: John Harper <john.har...@vuw.ac.nz>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:53:56 +1300
Local: Sun, Oct 14 2012 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Axel Berger wrote:
> N.B: "Modern" was the buzzword of the twenties to forties, "new time"
> was one of Adolf Hitler's favourites and in my household both "new" and
> modern" are four letter words (well, on average they are).

Another honorary 4-letter word is "reforms" uttered by an administrator or
politician, which far too often really means "changes" because some things
are made a little better but some are made much worse.

--
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Robin Fairbairns  
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 More options Oct 15 2012, 11:56 am
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From: Robin Fairbairns <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:56:18 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2012 11:56 am
Subject: Re: Aligned equations and brackets

Axel Berger <Axel.Ber...@Gmx.De> writes:
> Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>> but have never really got my act together for making it look "moddun".

> Plwase don't. The web was designed by a physicist to get work done
> efficiently and has been under attack from the advertising idiot crowd
> ever since. Most of what you see today is a dysfunctional broken shell
> under a veneer of supposedly sleek looks.

it really is (and always has been) a terribly clunky set of pages.  the
server load is ghastly, too (not that cpu cycles cost that much,
nowadays).

anyway, there are things i really want to do, starting with fitting the
text to the size of screen.

as i regularly say, i don't believe it's a much used site (though i've
not collected any stats), and i only fiddle with it for my own
amusement.  one thing that _doesn't_ amuse me is the pulsating
backgrounds and weird colours one so often sees on commercial sites.  i
have troubles with colour at the best of times (to the extent that i
ignore quite a number of web sites on the basis of how difficult it is
to read them).

while i'll never be a physicist again (not since 1965...) i believe i
have the "correct" attitude to information provision ;-)

(a discussion about a recommended plumber, on a local news group,
attracted the fatuous remark "i hope her work looks better than her web
site"; her web site is simple an clear, to my way of looking at it.)
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge
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