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Timothy Murphy  
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 More options Apr 19 2012, 7:18 am
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: Timothy Murphy <gayle...@alice.it>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:18 +0100
Subject: Lualatex + metapost
Does luatex/lualatex simplify the use of metapost in LaTeX?
I've been using the emp package with LaTeX,
but thought luatex would simplify the operation.
However, I've been unable to find any examples of this.

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Ulrike Fischer  
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 More options Apr 19 2012, 8:45 am
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From: Ulrike Fischer <ne...@nililand.de>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:45:38 +0200
Local: Thurs, Apr 19 2012 8:45 am
Subject: Re: Lualatex + metapost
Am Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:18 +0100 schrieb Timothy Murphy:

> Does luatex/lualatex simplify the use of metapost in LaTeX?
> I've been using the emp package with LaTeX,
> but thought luatex would simplify the operation.
> However, I've been unable to find any examples of this.

There is the luamplib-package. The example works fine for me:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{luamplib}
\begin{document}
A%
\begin{mplibcode}
beginfig(1);
fill fullcircle scaled 20;
endfig;
\end{mplibcode}
B\par
\end{document}

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Timothy Murphy  
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 More options Apr 20 2012, 6:34 am
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From: Timothy Murphy <gayle...@alice.it>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:34:09 +0100
Local: Fri, Apr 20 2012 6:34 am
Subject: Re: Lualatex + metapost

Thanks for the pointer.
Lualatex + luamplib seems a tiny bit easier to use than latex + emp,
but is there any other advantage?

I've been dipping into luatex/lualatex since reading
rave recommendations of luatex in this newsgroup,
but I must admit I haven't yet seen any great advantage
in using lualatex over latex.
This is probably just because I haven't looked in the right place,
so I'd welcome any pointers to the promised paradise ...

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Enrico Gregorio  
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 More options Apr 20 2012, 8:23 am
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From: Enrico Gregorio <Facile.da.trov...@in.rete.it>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:23:17 +0200
Local: Fri, Apr 20 2012 8:23 am
Subject: Re: Lualatex + metapost

You can also try mpgraphics or gmp

Ciao
Enrico


 
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Robin Fairbairns  
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 More options Apr 20 2012, 8:29 am
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From: Robin Fairbairns <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:29:57 +0100
Local: Fri, Apr 20 2012 8:29 am
Subject: Re: Lualatex + metapost

it's more efficient, since metapost is present as a library in the
luatex executable.

> I've been dipping into luatex/lualatex since reading
> rave recommendations of luatex in this newsgroup,
> but I must admit I haven't yet seen any great advantage
> in using lualatex over latex.
> This is probably just because I haven't looked in the right place,
> so I'd welcome any pointers to the promised paradise ...

the main, immediate, point is "modern fonts" (ttf and otf without
translation to type 1) and unicode input.  xelatex uses those, too.

more subtly, there's a scripting language built-in to luatex, that can
interrogate and manipulate tex's state (to some extent).  in principle,
this can make life a lot easier than ever before; in practice, i suspect
it will be a long haul to get to widespread use and fluent exploitation
of the extensions.  (note that context is far further ahead than latex,
in this regard: being as how hans hagen's firm is a major driver -- and
sponsor -- of luatex, hans' development work has a head start one anyone
else's.)
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Timothy Murphy  
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 More options Apr 20 2012, 2:45 pm
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From: Timothy Murphy <gayle...@alice.it>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:45:29 +0100
Local: Fri, Apr 20 2012 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Lualatex + metapost

Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>> Lualatex + luamplib seems a tiny bit easier to use than latex + emp,
>> but is there any other advantage?

> it's more efficient, since metapost is present as a library in the
> luatex executable.

Yes, I'd overlooked the fact that - as far as I can see -
I don't have to run mpost separately with lualatex + luamplib
as I do with latex + emp.

>> I've been dipping into luatex/lualatex since reading
>> rave recommendations of luatex in this newsgroup,
>> but I must admit I haven't yet seen any great advantage
>> in using lualatex over latex.
> the main, immediate, point is "modern fonts" (ttf and otf without
> translation to type 1) and unicode input.  xelatex uses those, too.

I must admit I am not a fontophil, and am perfectly happy with Type 1 fonts.
I take it that that is what I will be using in lualatex
if I don't specify ttf or otf fonts?
Or is Type 1 automagically translated into ttf?

And why are people so enamoured of ttf?

Suppose I wanted (as an experiment) to use ttf versions of the standard
text and mathematical fonts with lualatex.
Is there a simple example anywhere that would show me what to do?

(As far as I can see, my Fedora-16 laptop doesn't include
a huge number of ttf or otf files.)

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