Thames Greek font for MS Word?
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in a Microsoft Word document?
Thanks,
Lee
Randyl
RE: Thames Greek fonts for MS Word
This type of thing must be investigated carefully. Microsoft and Adobe
are only two among the many True Type and Adobe Type 1 font foundries.
There are many others. Selecting the wrong font can lead in the future
to quite a few headaches.
One alternative is to purchase "Fontographer" and create your own, an
obviously time-consuming task.
If, however, you are simply trying to make your Word documents come out
looking like your Interleaf documents there may be hope. If your
Interleaf system was the legacy Interleaf 5, then you are stuck,
because those fonts were pre-Windows era fonts and had nothing to do
with True-Type or Adobe's technology. If you do have either Interleaf
6, Interleaf 7, or QuickSilver, you may look into the following
subdirectory
[For Interleaf 7 or QuickSilver]:
(base_drive)\ileaf7.ileaf\fonts\outlines\tt
[For Interleaf 6]: (base_drive)\ileaf6\fonts\outlines\tt
and look for the following four files:
GDUTCHB_.TTF which corresponds to the Interleaf Dutch801 GreekB
GDUTCHBI.TTF which corresponds to the Interleaf Dutch801 GreekBI
GDUTCHI_.TTF which corresponds to the Interleaf Dutch801 GreekI
GDUTCHR_.TTF which corresponds to the Interleaf Dutch801 GreekR
make a copy and install in the regular fashion under Windows.
I do not suggest that you perform this act, create documents using
these fonts and then send a copy of these fonts to your friends,
acquaintances, business associates, or the like. If you do, I am quite
certain you would be violating your license agreement.
I have no idea why you are trying to do this since Interleaf is much
more powerful than Word and is parsecs ahead of it. Whatever document
you are trying to create in Word can definitely be done in Interleaf,
plus the fact that any True-Type font you are using under Word can also
be installed under Interleaf and used in those documents. I see no
advantage in using Word whatsoever. Nevertheless, I will assume you
have a reason for doing so, even if that reason may be a whacky one.
Best regards,
Randyl Kent Plampin
9mmplus
>>headaches.<<
Randy,
Granted, Ileaf/Quicksilver is a more advanced publishing system, though it
seems
to be languishing from underattention by the current owners. Problem is, so
many
corporate customers now insist on getting editable files in MSWord. Lowest
common
denominator and all that. Businesswise, Broadvision could greatly expand
its
customer base if it would make the product more available and affordable
instead
of its $1K yearly "rental." They must want to milk the cow until it dies.
Converting to Word where Times is the font always creates problems for me
because MSWord's Times New Roman has different spacing than Ileaf's
Times. So you get annoying formatting issues. Regrettably, Ileaf's font is
superior in appearance and spacing.
Symbols, such as the degree symbol, are also an issue. The substitutions
made
by Acrobat and various filters can screw things up in ways initially hard
to detect.
Has anyone ever mapped out Ileaf's secret font file names into the
publishing
industry's defaults ? Has anyone found a public Ileaf forum less
susceptible
to the porno spam that ruins so many usergroups ?
JPC
Randyl
>
>Granted, Ileaf/Quicksilver is a more advanced publishing system,
Yes.
>though it seems to be languishing from underattention by the current
>owners.
Actually it isn't. BroadVision is working on it and they say that the
next iteration of QuickSilver will be Unicode-compliant, which is nice.
Perhaps if they get the right-to-left issue settled and a good set of
Arabic fonts then maybe the needs of the US Gov for a good Arabic DTP
system will be filled, some new money would roll in and it would inject
some new life into the system.
>Problem is, so many corporate customers now insist on getting editable
>files in MSWord. Lowest common denominator and all that.
It is unfortunate.
>Businesswise, Broadvision could greatly expand its customer base if it
>would make the product more available and affordable instead of its $1K
>yearly "rental." They must want to milk the cow until it dies.
It has something to do with how Interleaf was born and all that.
>Converting to Word where Times is the font always creates problems for
>me because MSWord's Times New Roman has different spacing than Ileaf's
>Times. So you get annoying formatting issues. Regrettably, Ileaf's font
>is superior in appearance and spacing.
Yes.
>Symbols, such as the degree symbol, are also an issue. The substitutions
>made by Acrobat and various filters can screw things up in ways
>initially hard to detect.
I did a great number of books in PDF for our clients and never detected
any problems other than in the legacy fonts Thames and Swiss. It was
for this reason that I wrote several Lisp scripts to deal specifically
with this font problem and with font substitutions in general.
>Has anyone ever mapped out Ileaf's secret font file names into the
>publishing industry's defaults ?
I'm not sure what you mean by "secret font file names." The internal
font names are all documented in the manual "Font Manager Utility for
PostScript Fonts - DOS" in the chapter "C" "Interleaf Name Data for
Adobe Typeface Names." Not all possible Adobe font names are documented
and the method whereby fonts are added makes it possible for the user
to exercise great discretion in generating popup and generic names.
>Has anyone found a public Ileaf forum less susceptible to the porno spam
>that ruins so many usergroups ?
The only Interleaf forum that I am aware of is this one right here.
Unfortunately, like any other forum, it is susceptible to attack by the
purveyors or marketers of obnoxious items.
Dick Margulis
>> Has anyone found a public Ileaf forum less susceptible to the porno spam
>> that ruins so many usergroups ?
>
> The only Interleaf forum that I am aware of is this one right here.
> Unfortunately, like any other forum, it is susceptible to attack by the
> purveyors or marketers of obnoxious items.
>
I don't know whether either you or the OP is actually experiencing spam
in this ng. If so, I suggest you sign up with a premium news service. I
use supernews and I have never seen an off-topic message in
comp.text.interleaf (and only rarely in any other news group I subscribe
to). It's well worth the few dollars a year to me to not have to sift
through mountains of trash.
Dick
Pia Kraus
in 2005 we finished successfully a project, where we converted about
5000 ileaf-docs into word docs, also containing greek characters,
symbols and all this kind of ugly things. If you can tell me more
details about what your goal is, maybe we can help you.
Pia Kraus