But the file numbering DOES match book numbering
Fred Ma
I'm getting a message that the numbering in
a book file doesn't match the numbering of
the book. In the book window, I select the
offending file, right click and choose
Numbering. I get a numbering window with
several tabs. I take screen captures of each
tab. Then I warp to the within the offending
file, goto the Format menu, and select
Document->Numbering. I get the same numbering
window. I check that the settings in each
tab match the screen captures. They are 100%
identical. Why would FM complain about a
discrepancy in the numbering? Are there other
numberings? Given that there are 6 or so tabs,
it sure would be nice if the message specified
the exact parameter for which there is a
discrepancy.
Thanks for any suggestions on how to sleuth
this down.
Fred
P.S. I've sent this to comp.text.frame,
adobe.framemaker, and fra...@omsys.com.
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Fred Ma, f...@doe.carleton.ca
Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics
1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1S 5B6
Fred Ma
It's probably obvious that I'm doing major thesis proposal
writing right now. I must have used the forum a dozen
times in a few days.
I am running into snags following Michanek's procedure to
banish unavailable fonts:
http://w1.184.telia.com/~u18407300/fonts/unavailable.html
I'd like to locate these fonts. The solaris xterm says
the offending font is "Symbol Bold". I set the
preferences to not remember missing fonts and opened
the document. From within the document, I confirmed
that the missing fonts would not be remembered.
I tried generating a list of references for the fonts.
There is no such font. Though I do have Symbol fonts.
An attempt to find Symbol*Bold also turns up nothing.
I tried the Find/Change window. I searched for a
character format, pressed shift-F8 to set everything to
As-Is, and chose Symbol family (there is no Symbol Bold
family). I made sure the weight was Bold. This did
not turn up anything in the Body, Master, or reference
pages.
I saved the file as MIF and did a text search for
Symbol Bold. Nothing came up. I also searched for
Symbol.*Bold, which in vim searches for any line in
which the word Bold follows the word Symbol. Nothing
came up.
I even tried Symbol\_.*Bold, which searches for Symbol
followed by Bold, not necessarily on the same line.
But the result was too confusing because there are too
many lines in between.
Regardless of whether I open the file from the book
window or from the list of references for fonts, I
always get told that Symbol Bold will be replaced by
Symbol. Could that be the reason that I can't find the
font, even though the nonbold Symbol is not remembered
upon saving? I'm inclined to think not because these
methods of locating the offending font are from the web
page. The same advice was given in response a posting
of mine from years past.
Thanks in advance for feedback on this. I've sent this
to comp.text.frame, fra...@omsys.com, and
adobe.framemaker.
Fred
Ken Benson
"Fred Ma" <f...@doe.carleton.ca> wrote in message
news:3EE90105...@doe.carleton.ca...
> I saved the file as MIF and did a text search for
> Symbol Bold. Nothing came up. I also searched for
> Symbol.*Bold, which in vim searches for any line in
> which the word Bold follows the word Symbol. Nothing
> came up.
A while back I decided I needed to eradicate all references to Times New
Roman in all my Frame files. I did it by editing MIF files. What I found was
that the name you see in the font missing message is not exactly the name
you need to search for in the MIF file. These were the three S&Rs I had to
make to change Times New Roman Bold into Times Bold:
search: <FPlatformName `W.Times New Roman.R.700'>
replace: <FPlatformName `W.Times.R.700'>
search: <FFamily `Times New Roman'>
replace: <FFamily `Times'>
search: <FPostScriptName `TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT'>
replace: <FPostScriptName `Times-Bold'>
Try searching for "Symbol.R.700" and "Symbol-Bold". I believe (this is just
a guess) that the number indicates weight, and there were numbers left open
for things like Semibold and Extralight. 700 is bold. 400 is regular. I
think.
BTW, it's not that Symbol Bold is used somewhere in your document. Rather,
it's that Symbol Bold *could* be used if you turned on a particular feature.
For instance, in a number of books, I've turned off Table Title in table
formats. I've even deleted the paragraph format. But if I go into a table
(now 8 years later) and turn on the title, it comes up with the old Table
Title paragraph format, defined to use some font I was using 8 years ago.
Ken Benson
Fred Ma
Thanks, Jim & Lester, for chiming in.
My response follows below.
Jim S. wrote:
>
> Did you search Reference and Master pages?
Lester S. wrote:
>
> Normally, FrameMaker's F&R tool won't find
> unavailable fonts if they are used via overrides or
> formats deleted but 'hidden' as is the case with the
> formats associated with table designs, but searching
> the MIF file should find those. Also if there is any
> conditional text that is not visible, F&R ignores it,
> but again it should be located in searching the MIF
> file.
>
> One place that FrameMaker can not search nor will
> examining the MIF file reveal is fonts referenced
> within graphics (such as EPS) and these will not show
> up in the MIF file either. If you have graphics in
> the document, this might be the culprit. Also
> FrameMaker can not 'disremember' these font instances
> - you have to correct the graphic itself to solve the
> problem, either by changing the font to an available
> one or embedding the font in the image.
>
> One hint - what is on the page that is reported in
> the List of Fonts? This could include the associated
> master page, or any graphics incorporated either on
> the body page itself or from a reference page via
> frame above/frame below settings. (Or did I
> misunderstand and the LOFonts does not show Symbol
> Bold?)
Jim, I searched Reference, Master, and Body
pages. But I found the problem. I should have
made sure to remember missing fonts rather than
making sure to not remember missing fonts. Some
brain cells short-circuited and I thought FM
would not remember the font substitutions if I
told it to not remember missing fonts. I can
search for Symbol Bolded and find instances of
that font, though it still doesn't show up in
the list of references for fonts, nor in the MIF
file.
Funny how the offending font shows up as "Symbol
Bolded" in windows, and "Symbol Bold" in Unix.
In neither system does Bolded show up as a weight.
Not that it matters at this point.
Lester, the Find/Change utility found the offending
fonts even though the text was a text line within
an anchored frame. FYI.
Thank you both again.
billn
> a book file doesn't match the numbering of
> the book.
and for no apparent reason - that is, the numbering
in the offending file in the book and in the book
itself appears to match. My solution is to:
1. Save the offending file in the book /and/ the
book itself as MIF.
2. Open the MIF files and save them back as
regular FrameMaker files.
3. Update the book and the problem is fixed.
fred ma
Hi, Bill,
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep it in my
FM tidbits mailbox in case I run into it again.
The problem seems to have gone underground for
now.
Fred