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BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2008, 10:56:35 AM3/3/08
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Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.

We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,
before I make a big mistake and order a load of these with USB/pS2
convertors...

Anybody use a Sun workstation with a PS2 keyboard and/or mouse plugged
into a USB/PS2 convertor? Does it all work OK?

Cydrome Leader

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Mar 3, 2008, 2:16:14 PM3/3/08
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BertieB...@gmail.com <BertieB...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
> as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.
>
> We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,
> before I make a big mistake and order a load of these with USB/pS2
> convertors...

it doesn't sound suitable if it's PS/2 and you need USB.

Rich Teer

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Mar 3, 2008, 4:04:19 PM3/3/08
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, BertieB...@gmail.com wrote:

> Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
> as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.
>
> We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,

Console drawer? Why not just use X Windows over the network?

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BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:30:46 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 3, 7:16 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

> BertieBigBol...@gmail.com <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
> > as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.
>
> > We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,
> > before I make a big mistake and order a load of these with USB/pS2
> > convertors...
>
> it doesn't sound suitable if it's PS/2 and you need USB.
>

Yes, I know the Sun workstations use USB.

But, if you look here theres a PS2 to USB convertor which allows you
to plug a standard PS2 Mouse/Keyboard into the adaptor which plugs
into the USB on the workstation.

I know this will work for PCs, Windows etc, but want to be sure it'll
work on the Sun workstations before I make a costly mistake. (I know I
could just buy one of these convertors to try it !!!)

BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:31:42 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 3, 9:04 pm, Rich Teer <rich.t...@rite-group.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, BertieBigBol...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
> > as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.
>
> > We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,
>
> Console drawer?  Why not just use X Windows over the network?
>

Yes. Agreed I could. :-)

Trouble is our customer wants a console on the machine. Also, its a
military network so things like X Windows access are pretty tied
down....

BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:32:28 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 9:30 am, "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com"

Oops. Sorry heres the link to the Belkin USB adaptors :-

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=360778

Maurice Janssen

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Mar 4, 2008, 4:41:02 AM3/4/08
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 01:30:46 -0800 (PST), BertieB...@gmail.com wrote:
>Yes, I know the Sun workstations use USB.
>
>But, if you look here theres a PS2 to USB convertor which allows you
>to plug a standard PS2 Mouse/Keyboard into the adaptor which plugs
>into the USB on the workstation.
>
>I know this will work for PCs, Windows etc, but want to be sure it'll
>work on the Sun workstations before I make a costly mistake. (I know I
>could just buy one of these convertors to try it !!!)

Not really an answer, but maybe it helps:
I've also used PS/2-USB converters for HP PA-RISC workstations and Apple
PowerMac computers. They seem to work fine when connected to a PS/2
KVM-switch with PS/2 keyboard and mouse.
I also have some Sun equipment, but unfortunately not with USB so I
can't test it with Sun workstations.

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BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 4, 2008, 5:34:21 AM3/4/08
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On Mar 4, 9:41 am, Maurice Janssen <mauri...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

Yes. It SHOULD work but I'd like to be sure first...

Cydrome Leader

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Mar 4, 2008, 1:28:25 PM3/4/08
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BertieB...@gmail.com <BertieB...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 9:30?am, "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com"
> <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you want to go the hack route, just get these

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-USB-PS-KEYBOARD-USBPS2PC/dp/B00028OP2Y

there's less junk to fall off, and weight on your ports. I can't vouch for
sun hardware, but these adapters work on garbage like macs and laptops
with busted keyboards. I have used them on PC running solaris 10 as well.

BertieB...@gmail.com

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Mar 5, 2008, 5:08:44 AM3/5/08
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On Mar 4, 6:28 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> BertieBigBol...@gmail.com <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 4, 9:30?am, "BertieBigBol...@gmail.com"
> > <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 3, 7:16?pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>
> >> > BertieBigBol...@gmail.com <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Got a project where we're going to be using a load of Ultra 45s which
> >> > > as you all know come with USB connections for keyboard/mouse.
>
> >> > > We've identified a suitable console drawer but its PS2 only. So,
> >> > > before I make a big mistake and order a load of these with USB/pS2
> >> > > convertors...
>
> >> > it doesn't sound suitable if it's PS/2 and you need USB.
>
> >> Yes, I know the Sun workstations use USB.
>
> >> But, if you look here theres a PS2 to USB convertor which allows you
> >> to plug a standard PS2 Mouse/Keyboard into the adaptor which plugs
> >> into the USB on the workstation.
>
> >> I know this will work for PCs, Windows etc, but want to be sure it'll
> >> work on the Sun workstations before I make a costly mistake. (I know I
> >> could just buy one of these convertors to try it !!!)
>
> > Oops. Sorry heres the link to the Belkin USB adaptors :-
>
> >http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=360778
>
> If you want to go the hack route, just get these
>
> http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-USB-PS-KEYBOARD-USBPS2PC/dp/B00028...

>
> there's less junk to fall off, and weight on your ports. I can't vouch for
> sun hardware, but these adapters work on garbage like macs and laptops
> with busted keyboards. I have used them on PC running solaris 10 as well.- Hide quoted text -
>

I tried one of these (not exact make but similar) and keyboard worked
but mouse didnt.

I assumed this may have been because the Sun expected a kbd and mouse
in separate usb ports and couldnt handle them combo'd like this.

Casper H.S. Dik

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Mar 5, 2008, 5:38:28 AM3/5/08
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"BertieB...@gmail.com" <BertieB...@gmail.com> writes:

>I tried one of these (not exact make but similar) and keyboard worked
>but mouse didnt.

The converter needs to map the Sun keybaord and mouse to two different HID
devices; it is possible that the converter only maps the keyboard.

>I assumed this may have been because the Sun expected a kbd and mouse
>in separate usb ports and couldnt handle them combo'd like this.

No; the Type 7 keyboard include s HUb which can connect a mouse; it just
needs to find th edevice and it doesn't care if they are all on one port.
It just needs to see them as separate devices.

Casper
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