Blade 1000 boot disk?
Raymond Toy
Blade 1000. That was great, and much appreciated.
But now it seems that the disk is dead. When powering up the machine I
get a message that says the device can't be opened. Bummer.
I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
do I have? I understand I can boot from USB (and I have a spare USB
drive), but my version of openboot is only 4.0, so I can't. (I was in
the process of downloading the latest (4.16?) when I found out the drive
was dead.)
Maybe I can do a net boot instead of install and apply the OBP patch?
I also see there are PCI cards for SATA devices. Can I use that to boot
from? (I can see that on Sun's HW compatibility list, but I can't tell
if I can boot from them.) It would be nice too if that PCI card would
also allow me to attach a DVD that could be used for booting.
Thanks,
Ray
Raymond Toy
> I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
Well, I see relatively inexpensive Sun FC drives on ebay, so perhaps
this is one option. But an external USB drive (and maybe DVD burner)
might be nicer since USB drives are easy to get. (But perhaps the USB
interface is too slow to be acceptable.)
Ray
DoN. Nichols
a USB 1.3 (or is that 1.2?), not a 2.0. To get a 2.0 speed, you need a
card which comes with the Sun Blade [12]500, not the Sun Blade [12]000.
(It can be put in a SB-2000, as I have one in mine.) It also offers
some faster FireWire ports, which are probably better than the USB even
if you have USB 2.0.)
Good luck,
DoN.
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Michael Laajanen
For booting FC disk is the easiest option no doubt.
I don't think OBP can boot from USB, and if it can it is to slow in the
range of 10 minutes I would say.
Booting from SATA is also not possible I think, but using it is once booted.
So FC drive or a netboot where you mount root over ethernet from a Unix
box, but that takes some time to setup.
If you get a used FC drive from EBAY or the like, get two you never know
when it comes to old drives and they usually cost very little.
The bigger drive you get, the newer it is mostly.
Atleast, now you got the hung of netinstall so installing will be peace
of a cake :)
Try the latest Solaris build may next time!
/michael
Andreas Wacknitz
> Hi,
>
> Raymond Toy wrote:
>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>> I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
>>
>> Well, I see relatively inexpensive Sun FC drives on ebay, so perhaps
>> this is one option. But an external USB drive (and maybe DVD burner)
>> might be nicer since USB drives are easy to get. (But perhaps the USB
>> interface is too slow to be acceptable.)
>>
>> Ray
> For booting FC disk is the easiest option no doubt.
> I don't think OBP can boot from USB, and if it can it is to slow in the
> range of 10 minutes I would say.
>
> Booting from SATA is also not possible I think, but using it is once
> booted.
support which is rare. As an example, I have an LSI 3041X-R SAS/SATA HBA
that theoretically is capable of booting from SATA.
It needs a 3.3V PCI slot and the Blade 1000/2000 have only one of it.
Furthermore I had problems booting from it (PCI bus errors) and LSI
blamed Sun for these problems.
Some weeks ago I updated to the newest OBP 4.30.3 for my Blade 2500 but
haven't tried it again since then.
Andreas
Raymond Toy
> Hi,
>
> Raymond Toy wrote:
>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>> I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
>>
>> Well, I see relatively inexpensive Sun FC drives on ebay, so perhaps
>> this is one option. But an external USB drive (and maybe DVD burner)
>> might be nicer since USB drives are easy to get. (But perhaps the USB
>> interface is too slow to be acceptable.)
>>
>> Ray
> For booting FC disk is the easiest option no doubt.
> I don't think OBP can boot from USB, and if it can it is to slow in the
> range of 10 minutes I would say.
>
> Booting from SATA is also not possible I think, but using it is once
> booted.
>
> So FC drive or a netboot where you mount root over ethernet from a Unix
> box, but that takes some time to setup.
>
> If you get a used FC drive from EBAY or the like, get two you never know
> when it comes to old drives and they usually cost very little.
Sounds like a good idea.
What about booting from an internal SCSI drive? Is that possible?
Ray
Achab
> Michael Laajanen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>>> I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
>>>
I bought a SUN Ultra 5 on eBay 2 mounts ago, now on holidays I turn ON
the Workstation but doesn't Work.
Maybe for Holidays. NO it said that do not find the Hard Disk.
I wrote a lot, like when I study Linux,and I have the one possibility
stopping the boot before it read the memory with (Stop-A)
Then at prompt
OK setven dialog-swich? false
OK boot
but,
I remember that without Stop-A, the System don't give any prompt
Michael Laajanen
Booting from SCSI drives should not be a problem problem.
/mcihael
Michael Laajanen
Hi, did't know there was updated OPB for the 1500 and 2500, nice not
that I hade any problems with the original version though :)
Just tried a LSI SAS adapter and a SATA drive in a 2500(assume that a
1500 is the same) and it does not seem to be bootable, it would be nice
if someone at Sun could comment on this error from a
"@(#)OBP 4.30.3 2009/06/08 13:21 Sun Blade 2500 (Silver)
Clearing TLBs
"
{0} ok probe-scsi
This command may hang the system if a Stop-A or halt command
has been executed. Please type reset-all to reset the system
before executing this command.
Do you wish to continue? (y/n) y
ERROR: LSI1030 MPT Firmware, Fault code: 8112: PCI bus fault
ERROR: LSI1030: Could not set initiator ID.
ERROR: LSI1030 MPT Firmware, Fault code: 8112: PCI bus fault
ERROR: LSI1030: Could not set initiator ID.
Can't open SCSI host adapter
{
/michael
DoN. Nichols
> Hi,
>
> Raymond Toy wrote:
>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>> I'm not really interested in getting another FC drive, so what options
>>
>> Well, I see relatively inexpensive Sun FC drives on ebay, so perhaps
>> this is one option. But an external USB drive (and maybe DVD burner)
>> might be nicer since USB drives are easy to get. (But perhaps the USB
>> interface is too slow to be acceptable.)
>>
>> Ray
> For booting FC disk is the easiest option no doubt.
> I don't think OBP can boot from USB, and if it can it is to slow in the
> range of 10 minutes I would say.
>
> Booting from SATA is also not possible I think, but using it is once booted.
>
> So FC drive or a netboot where you mount root over ethernet from a Unix
> box, but that takes some time to setup.
You can also boot from disks connected to the external SCSI
port. I first booted and installed one of these (before I got my FC
drives) on a cluster of four 9GB SCA drives in a Sun MultiPack SCSI
housing. Note that the identification of the busses changes when you
install on the SCSI instead of the FC. Normally, c0t?d0s? only has the
internal, DVD-ROM drive c1t?d0s? has the two internal FC-AL drives, and
(perhaps) some external ones, and the external SCSI becomes "c2d?d0s?",
but with no FC-AL drives, the DVD will remain on "c0", and the SCA SCSI
drives will become "c1", and only if you later add some FC-AL drives,
they will become "c2". Of course, if you do a fresh install on the
FC-AL drives, things will be back to the usual pattern.
> If you get a used FC drive from EBAY or the like, get two you never know
> when it comes to old drives and they usually cost very little.
And they may arrive working, and die shortly afterwards.
> The bigger drive you get, the newer it is mostly.
The 146GB and 183(?)GB drives will work nicely in the system and
give you plenty of room.
> Atleast, now you got the hung of netinstall so installing will be peace
> of a cake :)
>
> Try the latest Solaris build may next time!
Yes!
Enjoy,
DoN. Nichols
[ ... ]
> Sounds like a good idea.
>
> What about booting from an internal SCSI drive? Is that possible?
The only internal SCSI bus is that which feeds the DVD-ROM
drive. It is a narrow (50 pin) SCSI, so it will be slower. You might
be able to mount a 3.5" drive where the floppy mounts (though there may
not be sufficient airflow to properly cool a hard drive there), and the
main problem is finding narrow SCSI drives large enough to serve as
reasonable boot drives. The largest 3.5" narrow SCSI hard drive which I
have experienced was a 4GB, and 5" ones up to 9GB.
Better to get a MultiPack and connect it to the external SCSI
port, and boot from drives in there instead. This *does* work, and you
can get much larger drives in SCA format than you can in narrow SCSI
format.
Good Luck,
DoN. Nichols
[ ... ]
>> What about booting from an internal SCSI drive? Is that possible?
[ ... ]
> Booting from SCSI drives should not be a problem problem.
He said *internal* SCSI drive. There is no internal wide SCSI
bus on those systems -- just the external SCSI. You *might be able to
put a 50-pin SCSI drive in the floppy bay below the DVD-ROM, but I worry
about sufficient airflow -- and a large enough drive in the 3.5" narrow
SCSI world.
Michael Laajanen
DoN. Nichols wrote:
> On 2009-12-28, Michael Laajanen <michael_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>>> What about booting from an internal SCSI drive? Is that possible?
>
> [ ... ]
>
>> Booting from SCSI drives should not be a problem problem.
>
> He said *internal* SCSI drive. There is no internal wide SCSI
> bus on those systems -- just the external SCSI. You *might be able to
> put a 50-pin SCSI drive in the floppy bay below the DVD-ROM, but I worry
> about sufficient airflow -- and a large enough drive in the 3.5" narrow
> SCSI world.
>
> Good Luck,
> DoN.
>
Right, I was actually thinking of adding a SCSI interface but I forgot
to mention it :)
FC drive is the way to go!
/michael
Michael Laajanen
Now I see a OPB enhancement, the 2500 is has 16GB but 8GB from Crucial
and 8GB from Dataram which did not fully interleave, now it does
fantastic sadly the 2500 is not that heavy used anymore (:
/michael
DoN. Nichols
> Hi,
>
> DoN. Nichols wrote:
>> On 2009-12-28, Michael Laajanen <michael_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Raymond Toy wrote:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>> What about booting from an internal SCSI drive? Is that possible?
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>> Booting from SCSI drives should not be a problem problem.
>>
>> He said *internal* SCSI drive. There is no internal wide SCSI
>> bus on those systems -- just the external SCSI. You *might be able to
>> put a 50-pin SCSI drive in the floppy bay below the DVD-ROM, but I worry
>> about sufficient airflow -- and a large enough drive in the 3.5" narrow
>> SCSI world.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> DoN.
>>
> Right, I was actually thinking of adding a SCSI interface but I forgot
> to mention it :)
There is still the problem of where to mount the internal SCSI
disks and not reduce the cooling efficiency. I guess that you could
remove the backplane from the disk cage and make up something to handle
the SCSI interface and the power connectors.
> FC drive is the way to go!
It is certainly a lot easier -- unless you use external SCSI
drives -- Likely in a MultiPack, which can either handle six 1.6" high
SCA drives, or twelve 1" high ones, depending on the model of MultiPack.
They also have the advantage of automatic bus termination so you can do
what you need with only the Multipack, a 68-pin cable, and the drives.
Enjoy,
Michael Laajanen
Thats one way, make it like a 2500.
But I would place the drive laying on the bottom of the chassis, then of
needed stack one or two above, but it's been almost 10 years since I had
a 1000, but on the 2500 its easy.
/michael