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bertieb...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2009, 5:41:26 AM9/18/09
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I know this has probably been asked a million times but I'm after an
easy to use guide to get this working.

Got a laptop with 80Gb disk, which I have partitioned into two 40Gb.
At the moment, I'm installing XP on the first partition. Is this
correct?

I'm then planning to install solaris on the second partition.

Am I right so far? What do I need to do in terms of boot loader? Or
will the Windows XP handle Solaris boot as well?

philo

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Sep 18, 2009, 6:30:34 AM9/18/09
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Since you are installing Solaris second. the Solaris boot loader should
handle it.

If it does not work, then use your XP cd to boot to the repair console

and issue the command fixbmr

to get the XP boot loader working again

BTW: Do not spend any time yet configuring XP

wait until Solaris is installed and you've confirmed the boot loader is
working

bertieb...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2009, 6:41:35 AM9/18/09
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On Sep 18, 11:30 am, philo <ph...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

What is easier to install Solaris first or XP first? It doesnt really
matter since this a blank machine.

philo

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:08:43 AM9/18/09
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Install XP first
as all versions of Windows will insist on being installed to your first
primary partition.


(at least the "boot" files)

bertieb...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:37:54 AM9/18/09
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On Sep 18, 12:08 pm, philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote:
> (at least the "boot" files)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thx...

Casper H.S. Dik

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:55:01 AM9/18/09
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"BertieB...@gmail.com" <bertieb...@gmail.com> writes:

XP. XP wants to own the machine and it typically removes whatever was
installed.

Casper
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On Sep 18, 12:55 pm, Casper H.S. Dik <Casper....@Sun.COM> wrote:
> be fiction rather than truth.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Good old Microsoft, eh? :-)

chuckcar

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:40:25 PM9/18/09
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philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
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Esp. considering that M$ OS's are known for re-writing the MBR on
installation.


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Gordon Sande

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Sep 19, 2009, 9:39:26 AM9/19/09
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On 2009-09-18 10:07:54 -0300, "BertieB...@gmail.com"
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MS knows about other versions of Windows and will happily coexist with them.
But their bootloaders (XP and Vista has different generations of them) do
not know how to handle other things. All the Windows variants I know of will
use the partition that they are given if you bother to use that option during
the install. You complaint seems much overstated. Windows does like primaries
on the first disk so is not as flexible as others.

GRUB and other bootloaders will notice and cater to Windows if it is already
there. If you take care they all work nicely. That means things like making
sure the bootloaders are in the respective partitions rather than the default
of using the disk's master boot record. Once I had done things slowly I had
several Windows on one disk and several Unix clones, as well as OpenSolaris,
on another disk. The resulting boot managers are very elegant to look at but
there are a number of specialists available if care to take the bother.

Low fuss would be to 1. partition then 2. load Windows and finally 3. load
OpenSolaris. I am not clear if Solaris uses the same bootloader (GRUB)
as OpenSolaris.

Zedex Dragon

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Sep 22, 2009, 3:15:37 PM9/22/09
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It seems my original reply was eaten. You can get the Windows boot
loader to load Solaris and leave the MBR unchanged. Here's how you do
it:

1) Resize your Windows partition to leave enough room for the 2ndOS
and a swap partition.

2) Install the 2nd OS on with GRUB on the 2ndOS partition.

3) Boot from the Ubuntu live CD and copy the first 512 bytes of the
2ndOS partition to a file on the Windows partition (Ubuntu can write
to NTFS file systems and it doesn't need to mount the Solaris
partition as you're copying bytes directly -- it just needs to see the
partition). The command is something like:

dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/media/disk1/grub.ini -bs 512 -count 1

You may have to change some of the parameters in the above command and
you will need to mount the Windows partition (which is easily done
from the GUI).

4) Boot into Windows and edit the boot.ini file. You'll need to attr -
s -h -r boot.ini first and then attr +s +h +r when you're done. in the
[operating systems] section add the line:

C:\solaris.ini="GRUB"

You can make it the default if you like and set the timeout to 0 as
GRUB will detect your Windows partition.

5) Restart

and that's all there is to it.

Ken Blake, MVP

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Sep 22, 2009, 4:25:08 PM9/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Zedex Dragon
<chev...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems my original reply was eaten. You can get the Windows boot
> loader to load Solaris and leave the MBR unchanged. Here's how you do
> it:
>
> 1) Resize your Windows partition to leave enough room for the 2ndOS
> and a swap partition.


Putting the Page File on a second partition is not a good idea, and
can hurt your performance. What it does is move the page file to a
location on the hard drive distant from the other frequently-used data
on the drive. The result is that every time Windows needs to use the
page file, the time to get to it and back from it is increased.

Putting the page file on a second *physical* drive is a good idea,
since it decreases head movement, but not to a second partition on a
single drive. A good rule of thumb is that the page file should be on
the most-used partition of the least-used physical drive. For almost
everyone with a single drive, that's C:.

If you have enough RAM, the penalty for moving the page file to a
second partition may be slight, since you won't use the page file
much, but it won't help you.

Also, the other problem with a separate partition like this is that
you run the risk of making it too small, in which case programs will
fail for lack of virtual memory, or too large, which is wasteful of
disk space. If you leave it on C:, it can expand or contract as
needed.

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Hodges

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Sep 23, 2009, 2:36:50 AM9/23/09
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On Sep 22, 4:25 pm, "Ken Blake, MVP"

<kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Zedex Dragon
>

I always install XP first since it screws up the bootloader for the
other OS.

Kadaitcha Man

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Hodges, ye spongy clay-brained guts, away, you three inch fool, ye
vomited:

>>> You can get the Windows boot
>>> loader to load Solaris and leave the MBR unchanged. Here's how you
>>> do it:

> I always install XP first since it screws up the bootloader for the
> other OS.

You fucking stupid brainless fuckbag.

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Sep 23, 2009, 8:54:20 AM9/23/09
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Run along little girl, I don't have time to babysit.

Ken Blake, MVP

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Sep 23, 2009, 9:58:08 AM9/23/09
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Fine. What does that have to do with my message you replied to, which
was about why not to have the page file on a second partition?

Anonymous

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Sep 23, 2009, 1:19:26 PM9/23/09
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> If you have enough RAM, the penalty for moving the page file to a second
> partition may be slight, since you won't use the page file much, but it
> won't help you.

If you have enough RAM, just run without a page file. It works fine for me
and it's more secure. The less rope you give Winbloze the less chance it has
of hanging you with it.

Better yet, once you get your Solaris working, install VirtualBox and run
Winbloze in a VM where it can't hurt you.

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"Kadaitcha Man" <an...@no.email> wrote in message news:ssuu7b$se3$0...@alt.sports.innocuous-massive-mamms.net.austria...

> Hodges, ye spongy clay-brained guts, away, you three inch fool, ye
> vomited:
>
> >>> You can get the Windows boot
> >>> loader to load Solaris and leave the MBR unchanged. Here's how you
> >>> do it:
>
> > I always install XP first since it screws up the bootloader for the
> > other OS.
>
> You fucking stupid brainless fuckbag.

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Kadaitcha Man

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Sep 24, 2009, 2:38:59 AM9/24/09
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> On Sep 23, 2:52 am, "Kadaitcha Man" <a...@no.email> wrote:

>>

> Run along little girl, I don't have time to babysit.

I will not have sex with you, mister!

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Has this fella got nothing better to do ???

Zedex Dragon

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On Sep 22, 9:25 pm, "Ken Blake, MVP"

<kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Zedex Dragon
>
> <cheve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems my original reply was eaten. You can get the Windows boot
> > loader to load Solaris and leave the MBR unchanged. Here's how you do
> > it:
>
> > 1) Resize your Windows partition to leave enough room for the 2ndOS
> > and a swap partition.
>
> Putting the Page File on a second partition is not a good idea

The Page File stays exactly where it was. You're resizing Windows down
to make room for Solaris. The swap partition is for Solaris. True, the
best way to dual boot is with multiple physical drives, but if you're
installing on a laptop that's not usually an option.

Kadaitcha Man

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BertieB...@gmail.com, ye mouldy bitch-wolf's son, there is no more
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> Has this fella got nothing better to do ???

Dunn. Has that fella got nothing better to do?

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> "philo" <ph...@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
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> [snip]

> If it does not work, then use your XP cd to boot to the repair console
> and issue the command fixbmr

This might work better: fixmbr

MBR = Master Boot Record

FWIW. --Richard

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>Has this fella got nothing better to do ???

I am quite sure only you can answer that question.

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