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deKay

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Jan 29, 2013, 3:55:27 PM1/29/13
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I did ask this a couple of years ago, but I wonder if things have moved
on...

I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac
(Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this?

deKay
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Fred

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Jan 30, 2013, 2:41:02 AM1/30/13
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deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which Mac
> (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do this?

The new Fuse beta allows saving gameplay to FMF files and fuse-utils comes
with a package fmfconv that lets you transcode to various ffmpeg formats
(H.264, DVD etc. ).

Download from the files section of the fuse-for-macosx sourceforge page
though I haven't yet looked at providing binaries of fmfconv.

Fred

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 5:43:27 AM1/30/13
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I shall take a look! Thanks!

Ivan Shmakov

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Jan 30, 2013, 7:46:44 AM1/30/13
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>>>>> deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:

[...]

> I want to record myself playing Speccy games on an emulator. Which
> Mac (Snow Leopard or Lion, if that matters) based emulators let me do
> this?

... Wouldn't it make sense to record .rzx? (Perhaps along with
the video.) FUSE is capable of that, too.

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deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 7:55:51 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:

OK, so how can I get hold of fmfconv that works on OSX? I could probably
build it if it'll do so with Xcode?

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 8:13:26 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:

Oh, more questions! (sorry)

When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording > Record...,
but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what I expected)
create one. I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it seemed to record a
file, though.

Aside from fmfconv, can anything else play or convert these files?

Thanks!

Ivan Shmakov

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Jan 30, 2013, 8:31:42 AM1/30/13
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>>>>> deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:

[...]

> When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
> Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what
> I expected) create one. I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it
> seemed to record a file, though.

In the SDL variant of the GUI, TAB provides a way to enter the
name of a non-existing file. (I'm not sure about the GTK one.)

[...]

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 8:50:43 AM1/30/13
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Sadly this isn't the case here - tis'a file open, not file save, dialogue
box that comes up.

Fred

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Jan 30, 2013, 8:54:15 AM1/30/13
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deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
> When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording > Record...,
> but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what I expected)
> create one. I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it seemed to record a file, though.

Hmm that's a bug, I'll fix that ASAP. Thanks for the report!

> Aside from fmfconv, can anything else play or convert these files?

Not right now, but hopefully the future holds a QuickTime codec.

Fred

Fred

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Jan 30, 2013, 8:54:16 AM1/30/13
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deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:.
> OK, so how can I get hold of fmfconv that works on OSX? I could probably
> build it if it'll do so with Xcode?

I need to do a statically linked build on the command line (I'll look this
weekend). It doesn't build with Xcode.

Fred

SamTek

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Jan 30, 2013, 9:15:49 AM1/30/13
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anyone add rewind to rzx?
or get it to work on real hardware?

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 9:20:26 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Fred wrote:

Awesome, thanks.

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 9:21:00 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote:

> anyone add rewind to rzx?
> or get it to work on real hardware?

Thanks for totally missing the point.

How did you lot in here cope with this guy?

Ivan Shmakov

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Jan 30, 2013, 9:50:53 AM1/30/13
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>>>>> deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote:

[Cross-posting to news:news.misc.]

>> anyone add rewind to rzx? or get it to work on real hardware?

> Thanks for totally missing the point.

> How did you lot in here cope with this guy?

There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other
newsreader currently in existence.

Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of
quoting, however.

(Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for
this group. The others may, though.)

deKay

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Jan 30, 2013, 10:17:33 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote:

> There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other
> newsreader currently in existence.
>
> Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of
> quoting, however.
>
> (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for
> this group. The others may, though.)

I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. I'll just
be ignoring him instead.

Ivan Shmakov

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Jan 30, 2013, 10:25:39 AM1/30/13
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>>>>> Fred <fr...@spamcop.net> writes:
>>>>> deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

>> When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
>> Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than
>> (what I expected) create one. I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that
>> and it seemed to record a file, though.

> Hmm that's a bug, I'll fix that ASAP. Thanks for the report!

Here's another one: when audio2tape(1) (of fuse-emulator-utils,
1.0.0 debian 4; and yes, I know I should've filed it on the
Debian BTS first) fails to recognize an integral number of bytes
on the block being analyzed, it emits a non-printable ASCII code
instead of the number of bits it was able to recognize in the
latest read byte. E. g.:

Error have incomplete byte (^C bits)

(Where ^C is, obviously, ASCII control code 3 = ETX.) Which
looks exactly as if a %c specifier somehow ended up being used,
instead of the proper %d.

Also, taking this opportunity, I'd like to suggest expanding the
diagnostics emitted by either audio2tape(1) (or, perhaps,
tzxlist(1); or both) a bit. For instance, it'd be helpful if
the "Checksum:" message would include both the read and computed
checksums, and also that the FLAG byte will be printed out.
Both may help those who'd analyze non-standard (as in:
copyprotected) tape signals.

It'd be nice if the tools showed a complete, human-readable
decoding of any of the ROM headers encountered, too. Like:

Type: Header (0)
CODE: "\x9a" (3) 16384, 6912 (32768)

Given some spare time (which certainly may happen in the near
future) I'd probably write a patch myself. (I'd then use [1]
for the format's reference.)

[1] http://www.zxmodules.de/fileformats/tapformat.html

TIA.

[...]

SamTek

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Jan 31, 2013, 6:07:55 AM1/31/13
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your so fucking funny
all you need is a rewind for rzx fucking hell think about what has been written you fucking moron

SamTek

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Jan 31, 2013, 6:08:13 AM1/31/13
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vully for you you twat

SamTek

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Jan 31, 2013, 6:09:16 AM1/31/13
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SamTek

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Jan 31, 2013, 6:09:54 AM1/31/13
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On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 14:21:00 UTC, deKay wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, SamTek wrote:
>
>
>
> > anyone add rewind to rzx?
>
> > or get it to work on real hardware?
>
>
>
> Thanks for totally missing the point.
> there's a point here? thought it was just to take the piss at every opportunity
this is the EDL/BNP forum - they do have such things now you know...
>
>
> How did you lot in here cope with this guy?
>
>
>
> deKay
>
> --
>
> Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk
>
> Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary
>
> Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog
>
> My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that

so just to recap you'd rather use ultra massive video files rather than incredibly tiny rzx files as video files
that makes perfect sense and i'm the spammer don't forget

Andrew Owen

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Jan 31, 2013, 7:33:29 AM1/31/13
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On 30/01/2013 13:50, deKay wrote:
>> > When I try to record a movie, I go to File > Movie Recording >
>> > Record..., but then it asks me to browse for a file rather than (what
>> > I expected) create one. I touch'ed test.fmf and chose that and it
>> > seemed to record a file, though.
>>
>> In the SDL variant of the GUI, TAB provides a way to enter the
>> name of a non-existing file. (I'm not sure about the GTK one.)
>>
>> [...]
>
> Sadly this isn't the case here - tis'a file open, not file save,
> dialogue box that comes up.

I thought I'd reported that bug. I got as far as making a recording from
an RZX but then I didn't know what to do with the file that was output.
Also the RZX didn't set the hi-res screen mode on playback, but I think
that may have been down to missing ROMs (long story, don't ask). I am
really looking forward to the new release of Fuse and I expect I'll be
making a lot of use of the video feature.

deKay

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Jan 31, 2013, 7:55:37 AM1/31/13
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013, Andrew Owen wrote:

> I thought I'd reported that bug. I got as far as making a recording from an
> RZX but then I didn't know what to do with the file that was output. Also the
> RZX didn't set the hi-res screen mode on playback, but I think that may have
> been down to missing ROMs (long story, don't ask). I am really looking
> forward to the new release of Fuse and I expect I'll be making a lot of use
> of the video feature.

Yeah, I really need video (rather than RZX) as I want to do some more
uploads to http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/gameover/ :)

The few I did were on Spectactulator, but I don't like using a PC just for
this purpose.

Ivan Shmakov

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Jan 31, 2013, 8:06:17 AM1/31/13
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>>>>> deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Ivan Shmakov wrote:

>> There's that little-known KILLFILE feature in every other newsreader
>> currently in existence.

>> Thanks for bringing him back from the oblivion by the means of
>> quoting, however.

>> (Well, just kidding, as I don't actually use Gnus scoring for this
>> group. The others may, though.)

> I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now.
> I'll just be ignoring him instead.

Does that mean that, effectively, you're going use a "wetware"
implementation of killfiles?

Well, that's my current preference for low-traffic groups, too.

Fred

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Jan 31, 2013, 8:26:53 AM1/31/13
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Ivan Shmakov <onei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Given some spare time (which certainly may happen in the near
> future) I'd probably write a patch myself.
> [...]


Thanks for the reports and suggestions. Patches are always welcome on the
fuse sourceforge pages.

Fred

kora...@gmail.com

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Feb 2, 2013, 7:59:58 AM2/2/13
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On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:17:33 UTC, deKay wrote:
> I haven't used a killfile in years! I certainly won't start now. I'll just
> be ignoring him instead.

I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile; hence I too just ignore SpamTrek's posts. Except for the one the other day, when I couldn't resist giving him a taste of his own rubbish by deliberately misconstruing his use of the term "DMA", which is the sort of thing he does, except probably not on purpose.

However, if I were running Agent, he would have ended in my killfile long ago. Just as the emails he still persists in sending me, despite my saying here more than once that they will all be deleted unopened, arrive in my Spam folder with the rest of the junk mail.

Duncan Snowden

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Feb 3, 2013, 11:42:36 AM2/3/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST)
kora...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile

Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in
corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're missing...

--
Duncan Snowden.

Ivan Shmakov

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>>>>> Duncan Snowden <dunc...@talktalk.net> writes:
>>>>> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 04:59:58 -0800 (PST) kora...@gmail.com wrote:

[Cross-posting to news:comp.internet.services.google and
news:news.misc, and setting Followup-To: there.]

>> I'm on Google Groups so can't use a killfile

> Let's hear it for Progress, folks! All those luddites cowering in
> corners with their local NNTP clients don't know what they're
> missing...

The problem of the "Usenet proper" is not that NNTP user agents
are inherently "worse" than HTTP ones, but that setting up one
of the former is easily ten times as hard as setting up a
Google Groups account, especially for those who already have
accounts on a dozen of other Web services.

However, I believe that there /can/ be a Usenet-like (or
Fidonet-like, if you like) network, with all the "killfiles and
local spools" of Usenet, yet as simple as taking a few clicks to
set up an account -- either free or paid for, and allowing all
the weird stuff common to the Web of today, such as exchanging
photos and the like.

Somehow, however, it makes me doubt that those active on today's
Usenet will be the ones to bring such a new network into
existence, or even to join one once it's started...

... Thanks to Google Groups, however, for providing easy access
to my posts for my less computer-savvy acquaintances.
Unfortunately, now that they're making a switch to a
JavaScript-based interface, my guess is that they won't be
accessible anymore to anyone but those who use one of the
"major" browsers. FWIW, I've left them the following bit as
"the reason I opted to use the old interface:"

Unfortunately, the new version relies on running site-provided
executable (JavaScript) code on my computer, which, although not as
insecure as running site-provided .exe files, I still do not
anticipate.

Besides, it's incompatible with Lynx, my browser of choice.

I guess, there's still hope that given enough feedback of such a
kind, they may revert their decision to take the current,
pure-HTML, interface down.

SamTek

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Mar 29, 2013, 9:38:04 AM3/29/13
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is it possible to record two types of avi video file
one at 50Hz and one at 60Hz - most people are watching zx spectrum pal 50Hz tv video recordings on 60Hz monitors on there pc
that is what is ruining them

Brian Gaff

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Mar 30, 2013, 5:33:54 AM3/30/13
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I don't want any of that, I like text only, but then I'm rather biased
against web forums for hopefully obvious reasons. What the heck is hard
about setting up a news client? If you can set up an email client then you
can set up a news one, and with the current high profile of yahoo etc having
their webmail address books raided, I'm keeping my address book safe and on
a machine I can turn off when I go to bed or am othersie engaged, nudg
nudge.

Brian

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Guesser

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Mar 30, 2013, 7:18:19 AM3/30/13
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On 30/03/2013 09:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
> If you can set up an email client then you can set up a news one

While it seems bizarre to people like you and me, most people seem to
have forgotten what "native client" means.

Andrew Owen

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Mar 30, 2013, 12:39:59 PM3/30/13
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I suspect most people can't set up an email client these days either.

jgharston

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Andrew Owen wrote:
> I suspect most people can't set up an email client these days either.

In my experience most people don't even *know* what an email client
is, they think everything is "the web", and access everything via the
web.

JGH

Paul E Collins

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Apr 2, 2013, 5:53:14 AM4/2/13
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Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience and
reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript? Would have made much
more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network technologies and
attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather than trying to
reinvent Windows entirely in a browser.

Slightly relatedly, has anyone else felt that it's a pity that most modern
software will become lost and unrunnable -- since it neeeds a (usually
private and unreleased) server side as well as the client side -- and even
the client side doesn't come in a box with manuals, but is a bunch of
pages on a Web site that nobody would bother to save anywhere? I can't
imagine a future WoS-type site being able to preserve any of the current
Web-based applications, so they'll be gone forever except for screenshots.

Eq.

Andrew Owen

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Apr 2, 2013, 2:31:23 PM4/2/13
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On 02/04/2013 10:53, Paul E Collins wrote:
> Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience and
> reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript?

JavaScript is neither slow nor clunky, and it has the added advantage of
running on almost any device that provides a web browser.

> Would have made much
> more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network technologies and
> attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather than trying to
> reinvent Windows entirely in a browser.

Essentially, the Web has become the platform. Web apps offer the kind of
write-once/run-anywhere appeal that used to apply to Java (before it
became heavily Intel-dependent and before people knew how insecure it is
in the browser).

> Slightly relatedly, has anyone else felt that it's a pity that most
> modern software will become lost and unrunnable -- since it neeeds a
> (usually private and unreleased) server side as well as the client side
> -- and even the client side doesn't come in a box with manuals, but is a
> bunch of pages on a Web site that nobody would bother to save anywhere?

Worse. Even if you have a local copy, once the validation servers are
shut off you won't be able to run it any more unless you can find a
pirate copy.

> I can't imagine a future WoS-type site being able to preserve any of the
> current Web-based applications, so they'll be gone forever except for
> screenshots.

The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the client
and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers. It's an
exception rather than the rule though and probalby only happened because
of the huge following that Ultima commands.

Duncan Snowden

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Apr 2, 2013, 3:10:41 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:53:14 +0100
"Paul E Collins" <eq...@cl4.invalid> wrote:

> Whose bright idea was it to ditch decades of desktop UI experience
> and reimplement everything in slow, clunky JavaScript? Would have
> made much more sense IMO just to develop some good cloud/network
> technologies and attach them to fast, responsive desktop apps, rather
> than trying to reinvent Windows entirely in a browser.

What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
Download the app!

Okay, so these things are usually based on web technologies, but they
still present themselves to the user as discrete applications. Yet on
the desktop, people will run a mile to avoid installing an email
client. I don't get it.

--
Duncan Snowden.

Daniel Mandic

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Apr 2, 2013, 4:11:29 PM4/2/13
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Andrew Owen wrote:

> Worse. Even if you have a local copy, once the validation servers are
> shut off you won't be able to run it any more unless you can find a
> pirate copy.

A HTML5 feature, some say.
'Adobe Flash' and 'Unreal 3D-Enigne (under JAVA)' seems to be
implemented to HTML5, yet.

I can't see any reason too, why it isn't possible to run such things in
seperate apps. Rather than reeinventing Windows in a browser.

> The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the
> client and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers.
> It's an exception rather than the rule though and probalby only
> happened because of the huge following that Ultima commands.

....huge following that Ultima commands?


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Paul E Collins

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Apr 2, 2013, 6:18:37 PM4/2/13
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:10:41 +0100, Duncan Snowden <dunc...@talktalk.net>
wrote:

> What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
> smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
> Download the app!

Yeah, marketing depts will work hard to avoid offering any *actual* free
content. If it's an app, they reserve the right to withdraw it later, or
plaster it with ads. That's not the case if they offer something like a
simple RSS feed (which would also -- shock horror -- allow computer geeks
to automate content retrieval and manipulate the results).

Eq.

Andrew Owen

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On 02/04/2013 20:10, Duncan Snowden wrote:
> What I find really weird, though, is that the opposite is happening on
> smartphones and tablets. Want to know the weather, or read the news?
> Download the app!

So long as your platform is still supported. As a Symbian user it's
often the web app or no app for me.

Daniel Mandic

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Apr 7, 2013, 2:47:12 PM4/7/13
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Andrew Owen wrote:

> The Ultima Online servers were revese engineered by sniffing the
> client and it is now possible to play Ultima Online on free servers.
> It's an exception rather than the rule though and probalby only
> happened because of the huge following that Ultima commands.

Now it's falling like scales from eyes. How could I not understand your
paragraph.... (reading english is by far easier than writing)

Do you play in any of the free servers?


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Daniel Mandic
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