I read in a post today that local CompUSA stores are seling the A-10 today - so I spent a few hours calling sotres. Finally found one that had 6 (!!) in stock - all came in today. Unfortunatly, the store that had them was about 70 miles away - but I could have it shipped by tommorow .
Faced with such a same choice, I did the only thing that made sence - drove down and picked it up (sigh).
Anyhow, I've been playing with the unit for about an hour now, and though I'd post a quick review. I'm a longtime Pilot user, so my view may be skewed.
First off, I got the Freestyle at the West Palm beach, Florida CompUsa for 317.99 including tax, and totally forgot to ask about the rebate. They still have 4 in stock - I bought one and the other equally insane person that went with me bought one - and yes they do ship FedEx. I have 10 days to decide to return it to any CompUSA (like the one I pass to work every day).
I am also on Micron Addition's list to get an A-15 or A-20 - whatever comes first. According to Everex, the A-15 will ship "1st week of June", the A-20 "mid-June". I figure i have 9 days to decide which path to take = so I'm staying on the list for now.
Also, the rep at Everex said that he played with all units, and id *not* notice a speed difference between them, but he was personally concerned with the 4 megs of ram vs the 8 that the others offer. When i asked, he said that the rought plan was to allow 48 hour upgrades of the main board for around $120 (to upgrade A-10 to A-15). The modem/cradle is an accessory that will be available in mid-June.
<sorry for rambling>
The size: Almost 100% identical to a Palm Pilot 5000. Slightly taller (maybe 1-2mm's). Same width. The screen is about 1mm smaller (but you get to use the whole area as you wish). The Pilot seems to fit into my hand better - it was awkward holding the Freestyle & trying to use the buttons - for now I'll assume I'll get used to it. the Freestyle also seemed a touch heavier then the Pilot (I read in the specs that it's supposed to be a bit less).
The Case: Sturdy. you can feel the flimsiness on a Pilot case. No problems here. There's 4 buttons on the front (Notetaker, Tasks, Address, and umm Calender off the top of my head). The left side has (bottom to top) a contrast button, the backlight button, a mic/headphone plug, and the voice recorder button. The right side has (also bottom to top) a place to plug in A/C, a power button, rocker down, rocker "enter" rocker up, and exit buttons. I keep accidently hitting the power button as I pick it up. The top has the infared port, the card slot, and the stylus.
The screen: So far, this is the biggest *dissapointment*. The Pilot screen is MUCH better. Unless there's some settings I am missing, there is not even a comparison here. The contrast button is not as easy as a contrast wheel. When you hit the button, the screen gets brighter & brighter until it is at its brightest, and then gets darker & darker (kind of like the old game Archon). This means that you can't do something like... "oke, a little brighter - no that is too much, let me go back one." The backlight is not very bright, and when it's on, the text tends to fade away (instead of standing out more). The screen is usable - it's just not anywhere as good as expected. Glare is about the same as the Pilot.
Speed: I was worried about this one, but it does not appear to be a problem (yet). I get very quick hourglass flickers. Speed is slightly slower then a Pilot. Delays are under 1/2 a second. I assume that the A-15, A-20 will be better.
Notetake/Jot: Very impressive. So far, I have only seen Jot suggest one word as I am writing (didn't the "Guiding Hand" video show several words?), but according to the book, the more you use it, the better it gets. Time will tell. I'm used to Graffiti letters, so this one will throw me off for a time. You can "learn" how to enter a letter, and watch the unit draw it for you (some letters in several variations!).
Voice Recorder: I'm using the default setting on this one with the volume allll the way up. Not so good. The HPC's seem to be better. I'll try tommorow with different settings. Usable - barely. Seems more of a problem with the microphone then the speaker. Maybe it's me. I'll have to try more then 2 tests to be sure.
The stylus: Lighter then a Pilot's (which is bad). I'm used to the other, so this isn't the most fair review. I like the tip, it is hard to describe, but the barrel of the stylus is curved, and just at the end gets 25% smaller - kind of the like a ball point pen. Seems accurate to use, I am simply not used to it. The stylus fits perfectly into the back of the unit (I'm used to the side - but the Pilot III has it on the back also...).
Battery: Comes with a NIMH battery (looks like 2 AAA's taped together). I almost peeled the two apart in the dark until I saw what I was doing! Will charge the unit tonight and test life span over the weekend.
Sounds: Found my 1st bug in the unit here. I turned tap & button noises on. It played a nice tapping noise. I went into the sound settings to play some sample sounds - now whenever I tap, it plays the last sound that the Freestyle played! So, if I delete an item, and it make a "crunching noise", it plays the first note of the "crunching noise" when ever I click anywhere. Will call tech about this tommorow.
The infared port: On a HPC, you can print through this. In notetaker, I could not find a print option :(
Overall impression: So far so good. Natrually, it needs more then 1 hour of playing. I will keep playing tommorow and over the weekend, and post more thought as I progress.
Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook 97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same. I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the Channel viewer.
If you have any specific questions or things you'd like me to look at post to comp.sys.palmtops or write me at polst...@wsvn.com. I'll be in touch all tommorow (Friday).
Thanks for your review! Does the Freestyle have a "Global" search capability? This is an excellent feature that I use constantly on my Pilot and to date I have not heard any reference to global search capabilities for Windows CE Palm PC's. Thanks -Floyd
On 22 May 1998 10:11:54 GMT, floydw8...@aol.com (FloydW8504) wrote:
Yes. You can search through a large list of selections including:
All Data All Outlook Data Appointments (all) Appointments (recurring only) Channel Items Contacts Mail Messages Note Taker notes Tasks (all) Tasks (recurring only) Voice recordings
While I'm here, a couple of new things I learned staying up a bit late last night:
Jot: I found the options for it. You can have it suggest 1-4 words after 1-7 characters of input. You can choose to add a space after, or not. You can also
Favor longer words Favor more common words Favor learned words (I have this one selected now) Balance Word Selection
The Case that the Freestyle is stored in: While I'm sure that many 3rd party vendors will release their own cases, the one that comes with the Everex isn't bad. There is no belt loop or shoulder strap, just a sinple sleeve with no top. Both the front & back of the case have cardboard in them to make it very rigid. The Freestyle also fits 90% in, leaving the top sticking out - the left side of the case is curved down, exposing the Freestyle's Record button, while on the right side the microphone (top right front) just sticks out) - so you can do voice recordings in the case.
>Thanks for your review! Does the Freestyle have a "Global" search capability? >This is an excellent feature that I use constantly on my Pilot and to date I >have not heard any reference to global search capabilities for Windows CE Palm >PC's. >Thanks -Floyd
>Thanks for your review! Does the Freestyle have a "Global" search capability? >This is an excellent feature that I use constantly on my Pilot and to date I >have not heard any reference to global search capabilities for Windows CE Palm >PC's. >Thanks -Floyd
Phillip R. Olstein schrieb in Nachricht <6F67AF37480BBCE6.3985F3956AF238C4.C9E4BE6214042...@library-proxy.airnews.ne t>...
>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since it has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >Channel viewer.
Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
Thorsten WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. http://www.wenk.com mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no luck.
When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will do the trick.
In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in feedback on this problem.
Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
<Thorsten_La...@wenk.com> wrote: >>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since it >has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>Channel viewer. >Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>Thorsten >WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >http://www.wenk.com >mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
Someday PSPCs will be good enough and the PIII will yield to the MS behemoth. For now it seems buying a PSPC is the equivalent of being a beta tester.....and paying a lot of money to do so :)
Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >luck.
>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >do the trick.
>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >feedback on this problem.
>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since it >>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>Channel viewer. >>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>Thorsten >>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>http://www.wenk.com >>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
Looking up "Obelenwa" on Deja News shows that you have been posting nothing but negative comments regarding Palm Sized PC's. First off.. YOU DON'T HAVE one so who are you to talk? And..you're using a Microsoft product as your newsreader..If Microsoft is so bad, why don't you get a MAC and go away.
Obelenwa wrote in message <6k4qma$5b...@winter.news.erols.com>... >Someday PSPCs will be good enough and the PIII will yield to the MS >behemoth. For now it seems buying a PSPC is the equivalent of being a beta >tester.....and paying a lot of money to do so :)
>Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >>On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >>web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >>version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >>IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >>to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >>luck.
>>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >>Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >>do the trick.
>>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >>calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >>time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >>feedback on this problem.
>>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >>compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >>click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >>luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since >it >>>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>>Channel viewer. >>>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>>Thorsten >>>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>>http://www.wenk.com >>>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
Obelenwa wrote in message <6k4qma$5b...@winter.news.erols.com>... >Someday PSPCs will be good enough and the PIII will yield to the MS >behemoth. For now it seems buying a PSPC is the equivalent of being a beta >tester.....and paying a lot of money to do so :)
>Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >>On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >>web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >>version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >>IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >>to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >>luck.
>>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >>Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >>do the trick.
>>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >>calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >>time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >>feedback on this problem.
>>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >>compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >>click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >>luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since >it >>>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>>Channel viewer. >>>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>>Thorsten >>>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>>http://www.wenk.com >>>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
1. How do I recognize my CF card, and move files to and from it? When I put the card in it asks for a driver, and I don't know what to enter. What do I do? I cannot find any references (manual or web) telling me supported CF cards.
2. My rechargeable battery pack doesn't seem to work. I charge all night, and I check that I've got the power plug icon under start/settings/power, and as soon as I unplug and turn it on, I get a main batteries very low warning. It seems the pack is defective. Is yours working OK?
Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >luck.
>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >do the trick.
>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >feedback on this problem.
>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since it >>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>Channel viewer. >>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>Thorsten >>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>http://www.wenk.com >>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
On 23 May 1998 13:33:30 EDT, "sdd" <swa...@concentric.net> wrote:
No idea on the CF card, I'm trying to find out myself.
I was just now about to see if tech support was open, as I am having battery problems. I charged my battery all night, used it for about 5 minutes tofay & got low power warnings. I put in 2 AAA's, but didn't use the unit for more then a few minutes.
I'm looking at the MiMH battery & the Everex now, and just learned something *VERY IMPORTANT*
(Everyone pay attention now):
With the Everex unit lyind on my desk, face up, put the batteries in with the "Sanyo" label showing you. The - should be on top, the + on the bottom, the arrow pointing in.
This seems counter to what the little diagram on the back shows, because I was trying to line up the + and - on the Sanyo sticker to to match the two of them. If you put the battery in "upside-down", even though you still have the batteries matching the picture, the NiMH will ***NOT*** charge.
This can be verified by putting in the battery, plugging in the power supply and going to Start > Settings > Power. When you have the battery in correctly it says, "Charging" (the book has this right). When you have the batterys in wrong, the unit *WILL* turn on, but the unit says that it's using "External Power" - it does not say that it is charging.
I'll have to wait 8 hours to know if I got a good chage or not though.. could be that I had them in wrong and the battery never charged - could be that I had them in right, and they batteries still stink.
>1. How do I recognize my CF card, and move files to and from it? When I put >the card in it asks for a driver, and I don't know what to enter. What do I >do? I cannot find any references (manual or web) telling me supported CF >cards.
>2. My rechargeable battery pack doesn't seem to work. I charge all night, >and I check that I've got the power plug icon under start/settings/power, >and as soon as I unplug and turn it on, I get a main batteries very low >warning. It seems the pack is defective. Is yours working OK?
>Thanks,
>Kevin >Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >>On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >>web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >>version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >>IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >>to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >>luck.
>>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >>Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >>do the trick.
>>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >>calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >>time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >>feedback on this problem.
>>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >>compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >>click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >>luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since >it >>>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>>Channel viewer. >>>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>>Thorsten >>>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>>http://www.wenk.com >>>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
Wow, I hope you're right. It's the opposite orientation for the batteries than what I had thought. I'll try it.
Let me know on the CF card. I've tried two now: a SanDisk 30 and a Viking 16. In both cases, when I turn the Everex on it asks me for a driver for the CF card. I have no clue what to do.
Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >On 23 May 1998 13:33:30 EDT, "sdd" <swa...@concentric.net> wrote:
>No idea on the CF card, I'm trying to find out myself.
>I was just now about to see if tech support was open, as I am having >battery problems. I charged my battery all night, used it for about 5 >minutes tofay & got low power warnings. I put in 2 AAA's, but didn't >use the unit for more then a few minutes.
>I'm looking at the MiMH battery & the Everex now, and just learned >something *VERY IMPORTANT*
>(Everyone pay attention now):
>With the Everex unit lyind on my desk, face up, put the batteries in >with the "Sanyo" label showing you. The - should be on top, the + on >the bottom, the arrow pointing in.
>This seems counter to what the little diagram on the back shows, >because I was trying to line up the + and - on the Sanyo sticker to to >match the two of them. If you put the battery in "upside-down", even >though you still have the batteries matching the picture, the NiMH >will ***NOT*** charge.
>This can be verified by putting in the battery, plugging in the power >supply and going to Start > Settings > Power. When you have the >battery in correctly it says, "Charging" (the book has this right). >When you have the batterys in wrong, the unit *WILL* turn on, but the >unit says that it's using "External Power" - it does not say that it >is charging.
>I'll have to wait 8 hours to know if I got a good chage or not >though.. could be that I had them in wrong and the battery never >charged - could be that I had them in right, and they batteries still >stink.
>Phillip R. Olstein
>>Phil:
>>Just got the A-10, and have a couple problems.
>>1. How do I recognize my CF card, and move files to and from it? When I put >>the card in it asks for a driver, and I don't know what to enter. What do I >>do? I cannot find any references (manual or web) telling me supported CF >>cards.
>>2. My rechargeable battery pack doesn't seem to work. I charge all night, >>and I check that I've got the power plug icon under start/settings/power, >>and as soon as I unplug and turn it on, I get a main batteries very low >>warning. It seems the pack is defective. Is yours working OK?
>>Thanks,
>>Kevin >>Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... >>>On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
>>>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's >>>web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest >>>version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed >>>IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went >>>to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no >>>luck.
>>>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for >>>Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will >>>do the trick.
>>>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now >>>calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every >>>time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in >>>feedback on this problem.
>>>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, >>>compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and >>>click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no >>>luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
>>>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook >>>>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a >>>>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
>>>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 >>>>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since >>it >>>>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
>>>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the >>>>>Channel viewer. >>>>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
>>>>Thorsten >>>>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop >>>>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. >>>>http://www.wenk.com >>>>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
I have the same problem! My battery pack seems to be either dead or defective, or perhaps the powermanager is defective in the Everex software version?
I bought some alkalines just in case but I am almost CERTAIN my NiMH batteries are no good. Anyone have an answer for this?
Yes, I too am searching for that list of acceptable compact flash cards. It says in the manual to check the web site but there aint anything there!
aloha! \\scott\\
In article <6k719a$...@examiner.concentric.net>, "sdd" <swa...@concentric.net> wrote:
> 1. How do I recognize my CF card, and move files to and from it? When I put > the card in it asks for a driver, and I don't know what to enter. What do I > do? I cannot find any references (manual or web) telling me supported CF > cards.
> 2. My rechargeable battery pack doesn't seem to work. I charge all night, > and I check that I've got the power plug icon under start/settings/power, > and as soon as I unplug and turn it on, I get a main batteries very low > warning. It seems the pack is defective. Is yours working OK?
> Thanks,
> Kevin > Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... > >On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
> >Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's > >web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest > >version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed > >IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went > >to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no > >luck.
> >When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for > >Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will > >do the trick.
> >In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now > >calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every > >time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in > >feedback on this problem.
> >Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, > >compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and > >click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no > >luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
> >>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook > >>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a > >>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
> >>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 > >>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs (since > it > >>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
> >>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the > >>>Channel viewer. > >>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
> >>Thorsten > >>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop > >>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. > >>http://www.wenk.com > >>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
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I am the other insane person Phil was talking about. Note: I have no experience with any handheld devices. I really like the palmtop everything seemed to be fine but the only concern that I encountered was the 4mb of ram... so i have made the painful decision to go return it and await the release of the next unit. Overall I gave this unit a B/B+. Other may disagree. I would love to see pocket word, excel, powerpoint for these handheld. Another concern of mine is the battery life...I expected more..
> I read in a post today that local CompUSA stores are seling the A-10 > today - so I spent a few hours calling sotres. Finally found one that > had 6 (!!) in stock - all came in today. Unfortunatly, the store that > had them was about 70 miles away - but I could have it shipped by > tommorow .
> Faced with such a same choice, I did the only thing that made sence - > drove down and picked it up (sigh).
> Anyhow, I've been playing with the unit for about an hour now, and > though I'd post a quick review. I'm a longtime Pilot user, so my view > may be skewed.
> First off, I got the Freestyle at the West Palm beach, Florida CompUsa > for 317.99 including tax, and totally forgot to ask about the rebate. > They still have 4 in stock - I bought one and the other equally insane > person that went with me bought one - and yes they do ship FedEx. > I have 10 days to decide to return it to any CompUSA (like the one I > pass to work every day).
> I am also on Micron Addition's list to get an A-15 or A-20 - whatever > comes first. According to Everex, the A-15 will ship "1st week of > June", the A-20 "mid-June". I figure i have 9 days to decide which > path to take = so I'm staying on the list for now.
> Also, the rep at Everex said that he played with all units, and id > *not* notice a speed difference between them, but he was personally > concerned with the 4 megs of ram vs the 8 that the others offer. When > i asked, he said that the rought plan was to allow 48 hour upgrades of > the main board for around $120 (to upgrade A-10 to A-15). The > modem/cradle is an accessory that will be available in mid-June.
> <sorry for rambling>
> The size: Almost 100% identical to a Palm Pilot 5000. Slightly > taller (maybe 1-2mm's). Same width. The screen is about 1mm smaller > (but you get to use the whole area as you wish). The Pilot seems to > fit into my hand better - it was awkward holding the Freestyle & > trying to use the buttons - for now I'll assume I'll get used to it. > the Freestyle also seemed a touch heavier then the Pilot (I read in > the specs that it's supposed to be a bit less).
> The Case: Sturdy. you can feel the flimsiness on a Pilot case. No > problems here. There's 4 buttons on the front (Notetaker, Tasks, > Address, and umm Calender off the top of my head). The left side has > (bottom to top) a contrast button, the backlight button, a > mic/headphone plug, and the voice recorder button. The right side has > (also bottom to top) a place to plug in A/C, a power button, rocker > down, rocker "enter" rocker up, and exit buttons. I keep accidently > hitting the power button as I pick it up. The top has the infared > port, the card slot, and the stylus.
> The screen: So far, this is the biggest *dissapointment*. The Pilot > screen is MUCH better. Unless there's some settings I am missing, > there is not even a comparison here. The contrast button is not as > easy as a contrast wheel. When you hit the button, the screen gets > brighter & brighter until it is at its brightest, and then gets darker > & darker (kind of like the old game Archon). This means that you > can't do something like... "oke, a little brighter - no that is too > much, let me go back one." The backlight is not very bright, and when > it's on, the text tends to fade away (instead of standing out more). > The screen is usable - it's just not anywhere as good as expected. > Glare is about the same as the Pilot.
> Speed: I was worried about this one, but it does not appear to be a > problem (yet). I get very quick hourglass flickers. Speed is > slightly slower then a Pilot. Delays are under 1/2 a second. I > assume that the A-15, A-20 will be better.
> Notetake/Jot: Very impressive. So far, I have only seen Jot suggest > one word as I am writing (didn't the "Guiding Hand" video show several > words?), but according to the book, the more you use it, the better it > gets. Time will tell. I'm used to Graffiti letters, so this one will > throw me off for a time. You can "learn" how to enter a letter, and > watch the unit draw it for you (some letters in several variations!).
> Voice Recorder: I'm using the default setting on this one with the > volume allll the way up. Not so good. The HPC's seem to be better. > I'll try tommorow with different settings. Usable - barely. Seems > more of a problem with the microphone then the speaker. Maybe it's > me. I'll have to try more then 2 tests to be sure.
> The stylus: Lighter then a Pilot's (which is bad). I'm used to the > other, so this isn't the most fair review. I like the tip, it is hard > to describe, but the barrel of the stylus is curved, and just at the > end gets 25% smaller - kind of the like a ball point pen. Seems > accurate to use, I am simply not used to it. The stylus fits > perfectly into the back of the unit (I'm used to the side - but the > Pilot III has it on the back also...).
> Battery: Comes with a NIMH battery (looks like 2 AAA's taped > together). I almost peeled the two apart in the dark until I saw what > I was doing! Will charge the unit tonight and test life span over the > weekend.
> Sounds: Found my 1st bug in the unit here. I turned tap & button > noises on. It played a nice tapping noise. I went into the sound > settings to play some sample sounds - now whenever I tap, it plays the > last sound that the Freestyle played! So, if I delete an item, and it > make a "crunching noise", it plays the first note of the "crunching > noise" when ever I click anywhere. Will call tech about this > tommorow.
> The infared port: On a HPC, you can print through this. In > notetaker, I could not find a print option :(
> Overall impression: So far so good. Natrually, it needs more then 1 > hour of playing. I will keep playing tommorow and over the weekend, > and post more thought as I progress.
> Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook > 97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a > HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same. > I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the > Channel viewer.
> If you have any specific questions or things you'd like me to look at > post to comp.sys.palmtops or write me at polst...@wsvn.com. I'll be > in touch all tommorow (Friday).
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Interesting....I called Everex, spoke to a nice lady, and she is mailing me "free" a replacement unit with win ce 2.1., and several upgraded features. Why this isn't what they are selling, I don't know. She says it's an upgrade, and doesn't have some of the problems that the unit i purchased has. I told her i was returning the unit, and came up with the replacement solution. (don't send out for the rebate if youre returning the unit)
As far as the CF card, I have no info.
I also had the battery problem, and fixed it by correcting the position. For $9.95 I am recieving rechargeable Lithium batteries from Energizer. They las 30 - 40% longer according to the lady, she gave me their number in NY to call. I think Everex wanted to be first with the product, but should have made a little better planning.
In article <6k8jnv$...@examiner.concentric.net>, "sdd" <swa...@concentric.net> wrote:
> Wow, I hope you're right. It's the opposite orientation for the batteries > than what I had thought. I'll try it.
> Let me know on the CF card. I've tried two now: a SanDisk 30 and a Viking > 16. In both cases, when I turn the Everex on it asks me for a driver for > the CF card. I have no clue what to do.
> Kevin
> Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... > >On 23 May 1998 13:33:30 EDT, "sdd" <swa...@concentric.net> wrote:
> >No idea on the CF card, I'm trying to find out myself.
> >I was just now about to see if tech support was open, as I am having > >battery problems. I charged my battery all night, used it for about 5 > >minutes tofay & got low power warnings. I put in 2 AAA's, but didn't > >use the unit for more then a few minutes.
> >I'm looking at the MiMH battery & the Everex now, and just learned > >something *VERY IMPORTANT*
> >(Everyone pay attention now):
> >With the Everex unit lyind on my desk, face up, put the batteries in > >with the "Sanyo" label showing you. The - should be on top, the + on > >the bottom, the arrow pointing in.
> >This seems counter to what the little diagram on the back shows, > >because I was trying to line up the + and - on the Sanyo sticker to to > >match the two of them. If you put the battery in "upside-down", even > >though you still have the batteries matching the picture, the NiMH > >will ***NOT*** charge.
> >This can be verified by putting in the battery, plugging in the power > >supply and going to Start > Settings > Power. When you have the > >battery in correctly it says, "Charging" (the book has this right). > >When you have the batterys in wrong, the unit *WILL* turn on, but the > >unit says that it's using "External Power" - it does not say that it > >is charging.
> >I'll have to wait 8 hours to know if I got a good chage or not > >though.. could be that I had them in wrong and the battery never > >charged - could be that I had them in right, and they batteries still > >stink.
> >Phillip R. Olstein
> >>Phil:
> >>Just got the A-10, and have a couple problems.
> >>1. How do I recognize my CF card, and move files to and from it? When I > put > >>the card in it asks for a driver, and I don't know what to enter. What do > I > >>do? I cannot find any references (manual or web) telling me supported CF > >>cards.
> >>2. My rechargeable battery pack doesn't seem to work. I charge all night, > >>and I check that I've got the power plug icon under start/settings/power, > >>and as soon as I unplug and turn it on, I get a main batteries very low > >>warning. It seems the pack is defective. Is yours working OK?
> >>Thanks,
> >>Kevin > >>Phillip R. Olstein wrote in message ... > >>>On Fri, 22 May 1998 19:59:25 +0200, "Thorsten Lange"
> >>>Today I instaled IE 4.01 (got the newest version off of Microsoft's > >>>web site), and went to the MSnbc channel - found out that the latest > >>>version is NOT compatible with the channel browser ?!? I de-installed > >>>IE 4.01, and installed the version that came with the CD. When I went > >>>to the web page, it attempted to download some software...but still no > >>>luck.
> >>>When I go to the Mobile Connections, I do not get the option for > >>>Channels. I am re-installing 2.1 from scratch - hopefully that will > >>>do the trick.
> >>>In other news, the sound/tap problem I mentioned, Everex is now > >>>calling a "CE Feature". BS. I do not want the sound to change every > >>>time I tap on something on the screen. I am very interesed in > >>>feedback on this problem.
> >>>Finally, I am told that to print through infared, go to Notetaker, > >>>compose a note, save it and exit the note. Hightlight the note, and > >>>click File > Send to > Infared. I tried it to a HP LaserJet 6p - no > >>>luck here either. Everex will get back to me on this one.
> >>>>>Tommorow, I will try synching to my notebook PC (NT 4.0 with Outlook > >>>>>97) - I already have the HPC software in there (my company owns a > >>>>>HP620 LX which I tested) - so I assume that the software is the same.
> >>>>No, you need to upgrade to CE-services 2.1 that came with your P/PC. 2.1 > >>>>works with H/PCs and P/PCs whiel the old 2.0 only works with H/PCs > (since > >>it > >>>>has been released before the P/PC had been finalised).
> >>>>>I'll post more about synching tommorow. I am also interested in the > >>>>>Channel viewer. > >>>>Especially the Channel view is part of CE Services 2.1
> >>>>Thorsten > >>>>WENK PRODUCTS & PADshop > >>>>Die Spezialisten für Mobile Computing. > >>>>http://www.wenk.com > >>>>mailto:i...@wenk.com bzw. mailto:pads...@wenk.com
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>Interesting....I called Everex, spoke to a nice lady, and she is mailing me >"free" a replacement unit with win ce 2.1., and several upgraded features. >Why this isn't what they are selling, I don't know. She says it's an >upgrade, and doesn't have some of the problems that the unit i purchased has. >I told her i was returning the unit, and came up with the replacement >solution. (don't send out for the rebate if youre returning the unit)
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