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George Fragos  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 6:24 pm
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From: George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 6:24 pm
Subject: Is this a "user group"?
Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
about Palm technology and to help others.

Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
My God I feel sorry for their spouses.


 
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Bruno  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 6:27 pm
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From: Bruno <ins...@address.here>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:27:04 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
waived the right to be silent and professed:

>Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
>they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
>worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
>understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
>about Palm technology and to help others.

>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

Spouses? We're all 14 year old kids with bad complexions and
neglectful parents who do not monitor our Internet usage!

--
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Derek  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 8:25 pm
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From: Derek <n...@gwinn.us>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:25:27 -0500
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
Bruno rose quietly and spake the following:  

> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
> waived the right to be silent and professed:

>>Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
>>they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
>>worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
>>understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
>>about Palm technology and to help others.

>>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

> Spouses? We're all 14 year old kids with bad complexions and
> neglectful parents who do not monitor our Internet usage!

Speak for yourself. I finally moved out of my parents basement last year.

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Guy Bannis  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 8:42 pm
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From: g...@ether.net (Guy Bannis)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:42:11 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
In article <d8uWc.31667$9Y6.20...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
> understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
> about Palm technology and to help others.

Ramble on ...

 
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Notan  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 8:49 pm
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From: Notan <no...@ddress.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:49:35 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

George Fragos wrote:

> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
> understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
> about Palm technology and to help others.

> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
> My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

Off Topic (OT) posts are the norm for USENET.

Get used to it.

Notan


 
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BillB  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 8:59 pm
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From: BillB <rainb...@earthlink.newt>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:59:18 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos wrote:
> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.

  Have you ever gone to user group meetings?  I never owned a Kaypro
computer, but attended several of their meetings, most of which were
interesting.  Perhaps because much of what was discussed would
technically be considered off-topic.

>  Perhaps I don't understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group
> was to learn about Palm technology and to help others.

  Much of it is helpful but I skip many of the messages whose
headers indicate that they're either about things that I'm not very
interested in, or they're a request for help, that I have little
knowledge of - unless I think I might learn something useful from
it.  I hope you don't think that this ng should discuss hardware and
software only if produced by Palm.

> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to
> the attack.  My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

  You've been attacked?  If so I haven't noticed it. Perhaps it's
been in some of the messages I've skipped.  Either that or you're
trying to bait people into adding fuel to a flame war now that
you've lit the match.

 
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Alan Brennan  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 9:18 pm
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From: Alan Brennan <th...@in.the.hat>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:18:33 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT
George Fragos ( fra...@earthlink.net )
 wrote

> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
> understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
> about Palm technology and to help others.

No, this isn't a users group. This is a usenet newsgroup. What goes on
in here is par for the course for usenet. In fact, this is one of the
saner and more on-topic groups. Go find a genuine user's group to whine
in, if whine you must. Otherwise do what everyone else does: learn to be
discriminating about what you read, and you'll find it a very useful
place indeed to poke your nose into from time to time.

> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
> My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

Unless you include electronic and/or inflatable devices, no one on
usenet has a spouse.

 
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krewl  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 9:24 pm
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From: krewl <kr...@invalid.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:24:51 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
>they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
>worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
>understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
>about Palm technology and to help others.

"tis the nature of usenet and not much you can do to enforce all
participants to post "properly" and on-topic.

>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

Hmmm? ...  "attack" ....this does not compute ...

 
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krewl  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 9:38 pm
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From: krewl <kr...@invalid.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:38:22 -0700
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 9:38 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:18:33 +1200, Alan Brennan <th...@in.the.hat>
wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT
>George Fragos ( fra...@earthlink.net )
>> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>> My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

>Unless you include electronic and/or inflatable devices, no one on
>usenet has a spouse.

Thank God! Now I don't feel all alone! ROFLMAO!!

 
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Alan Brennan  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 11:25 pm
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From: Alan Brennan <th...@in.the.hat>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:25:55 +1200
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:38:22 -0700
krewl ( kr...@invalid.com )
 wrote

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:18:33 +1200, Alan Brennan <th...@in.the.hat>
> wrote:

> >On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT
> >George Fragos ( fra...@earthlink.net )

> >> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
> >> My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

> >Unless you include electronic and/or inflatable devices, no one on
> >usenet has a spouse.

> Thank God! Now I don't feel all alone! ROFLMAO!!

Well, this is a group for palm enthusiasts.

 
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Notan  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 11:35 pm
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From: Notan <no...@ddress.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:35:02 GMT
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

There's one in every group! <g>

Notan


 
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david  
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 More options Aug 23 2004, 11:41 pm
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From: david <spamt...@oznook.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:41:41 +1000
Local: Mon, Aug 23 2004 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
Derek wrote:
> Bruno rose quietly and spake the following:  

...snip.

> Speak for yourself. I finally moved out of my parents basement last year.

"moved out of" or "was let out of" ??   :-P

 
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David W. Poole, Jr.  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 3:05 am
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From: "David W. Poole, Jr." <TedKennedyMurderedHisMistress.20.dwp...@spamgourmet.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 03:05:14 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 3:05 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
was understood to have stated the following:

>Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.

What is this "topic" thing of which you speak?

 
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Peter Franks  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 6:10 am
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From: "Peter Franks" <hazar...@mailcan.removethis.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:10:31 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 6:10 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

"George Fragos" <fra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:d8uWc.31667$9Y6.20027@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.  Perhaps I don't
> understand but, I thought the purpose of this user group was to learn
> about Palm technology and to help others.

What do you expect from a "user group"? I see postings from people who use
devices that want help, advice, software tips, etc. What does a user group
do differently?

> Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
> My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

Weird.

 
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Peter Franks  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 6:11 am
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From: "Peter Franks" <hazar...@mailcan.removethis.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:11:19 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 6:11 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

"Alan Brennan" <th...@in.the.hat> wrote in message

news:MPG.1b957c7119b9502b98972b@news.clear.net.nz...

#1 rejected slogan for Palm: We have our Palm in your pocket.

 
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Derek  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 10:29 am
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:29:23 -0500
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 10:29 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
david rose quietly and spake the following:  

> Derek wrote:
>> Bruno rose quietly and spake the following:  

> ...snip.

>> Speak for yourself. I finally moved out of my parents basement last year.

> "moved out of" or "was let out of" ??   :-P

"kicked out of," actually. ;P

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 More options Aug 24 2004, 11:40 am
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From: JPG <m...@privacy.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:40:22 +0100
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 11:40 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

I had a damn good shit this morning, so I could hardly be called an anal
retentive.

 
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Derek  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 11:51 am
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From: Derek <n...@gwinn.us>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:51:41 -0500
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 11:51 am
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
JPG rose quietly and spake the following:  

> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

> I had a damn good shit this morning, so I could hardly be called an anal
> retentive.

Anal expressive?

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krewl  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 12:21 pm
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From: krewl <kr...@invalid.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:21:11 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:51:41 -0500, Derek <n...@gwinn.us> wrote:
>JPG rose quietly and spake the following:  

>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
>>>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

>> I had a damn good shit this morning, so I could hardly be called an anal
>> retentive.

>Anal expressive?

Sounds like anal EXPLOSIVE!

 
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David W. Poole, Jr.  
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From: "David W. Poole, Jr." <TedKennedyMurderedHisMistress.20.dwp...@spamgourmet.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:41:52 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:11:19 -0400, "Peter Franks"
<hazar...@mailcan.removethis.com> was understood to have stated the
following:

>#1 rejected slogan for Palm: We have our Palm in your pocket.

Excellent!

 
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yeltrabn...@email.com  
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 More options Aug 24 2004, 3:16 pm
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:16:12 GMT
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:10:31 -0400, "Peter Franks"

<hazar...@mailcan.removethis.com> wrote:
>What do you expect from a "user group"? I see postings from people who use
>devices that want help, advice, software tips, etc. What does a user group
>do differently?

They
a) meet IN PERSON periodically
b) have a mailing list
c) and don't use USENET

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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:16:37 GMT
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Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:59:18 GMT, BillB <rainb...@earthlink.newt> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos wrote:

>> Unfortunately a large number of posts are totally off topic.  In fact
>> they aren't even on this planet.  I for one find these ramblings the
>> worst possible abuse of the users of this group.

This is not a user group. This is a newsgroup.

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Peter Franks  
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From: "Peter Franks" <hazar...@mailcan.removethis.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:33:58 -0400
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

"Derek" <n...@gwinn.us> wrote in message news:9q6gmzinet2h.dlg@gwinn.us...
> JPG rose quietly and spake the following:

> > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:24:09 GMT, George Fragos <fra...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> >>Now I've said my bit and the anal retentives can return to the attack.
> >>My God I feel sorry for their spouses.

> > I had a damn good shit this morning, so I could hardly be called an anal
> > retentive.

> Anal expressive?

Try to put it behind you.


 
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BillB  
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From: BillB <rainb...@earthlink.newt>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:50:21 GMT
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:16:37 GMT, yeltrabn...@email.com wrote:
> This is not a user group. This is a newsgroup.

  True, but there are many different types of newsgroups serving
many different purposes.  This ng could have been limited in many
ways, such as to restrict discussion to "News" only.  ie, current
and future developments in the Palm world, as reported in the trade
press.  It could also restrict discussion to nothing but Palm
products (no Clies, TRGs, SanDisk or non-Palm software).  Instead,
all of these are discussed, as well as how to "fix what's broke",
how to find a suitable dictionary, evaluate Flash cards, etc.  In
other words, it's usenet's version of a user group.  A support user
group, actually and yet --- it's still a newsgroup.

  User group <==> newsgroup.  Why do you think that they're mutually
exclusive?  Newsgroups were not all created from the same template.


 
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Derek  
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From: Derek <n...@gwinn.us>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:15:46 -0500
Local: Tues, Aug 24 2004 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a "user group"?
Peter Franks rose quietly and spake the following:  

I sure as heck don't want it in FRONT of me!

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Dad:    Sure, Jeremy. On what?
Jeremy: It doesn't matter. I just feel like disagreeing with something.

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