cannot mount root
calcio
installation. It recognizes my hard drives (ide). However, I believe it's my
cd-rom that is not being recognized and therefore causing the system panic.
I get a msg that no cd-rom drive was found. I realize that since I have an
atapi (eide) that the driver is not on the driver floppy that I got in the
box. So, I tried to ftp the driver but it keeps showing up as a ton of
binary characters rather than prompting to ask where I want to save it to. I
want to rawrite it to a floppy. How would I go about doing this correctly? I
also get an error when I get the question of where root is. I put in hd0 and
it then gives me a system panic as well. Could someone tell me what to do
step by step? Thanx much!
Jim
Chuck Swiger
> I keep getting a cannot mount root when I get to the boot screen during
Is there some reason you're switching newsgroups with every post? :-)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | ch...@codefab.com | Bad cop! No Donut.
---------------+-------------------+--------------------
I know you are an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
calcio
readers, you can skip if you don't have a reply or if the msg doesn't
pertain to something you're interested in. One should have been able to make
a simple assumption that I was looking for anyone who had info on this. So,
I chose to post to different NeXTStep groups since this is a nextstep
question. Not everyone reads every single newsgroup even if they deal with
different aspects of the OS. Finally, if this didn't apply to you, or you
didn't feel like contributing anything that was ON TOPIC, why did YOU bother
to reply??
Chuck Swiger <ch...@codefab.com> wrote in message
news:Tw_T3.32789$oa2....@iad-read.news.verio.net...
-bat.
> You need not reply if you do not wish to. That is the beauty of usenet
> readers, you can skip if you don't have a reply or if the msg doesn't
..but it does make those of us who are trying to give you an answer
rather confused as to where you want replies posted. I just folllowed up
something fo yours (or the other bloke with the same pproblem) in
c.s.n.programmer.
> I chose to post to different NeXTStep groups since this is a nextstep
> question. Not everyone reads every single newsgroup even if they deal with
Post to an *appropritae* one then - thats the criteria for how people
choose their groups. why on earth you though you might find people
who knew about installing it in a programmers group I don't know - it's
a software problem, or possibly a hardware problem so those are places more
likely to find someone who can help you. I also think you'll find that
mopst of us do read all the groups 9the only one I avoid is marketplace 'cos
I;ve got NeXT comming out fo me ears and don;t need to buy any more).
> different aspects of the OS. Finally, if this didn't apply to you, or you
> didn't feel like contributing anything that was ON TOPIC, why did YOU bother
> to reply??
he trying to (politely) tell you to keep on topic - if you don;t piss people
off then they are more likely to help you.
anyway, getting back to the actual question - when you ftp the binary image
you say something about not getting a menu for save. That probably because
it doesn't know what the type is (I have no idea what software you are
using, but it sounds a bit point-and-click) try using ftp ffrom the
command line so you can guarntee what it's doing (remembering binary
mode) and that should solve that little problem. theres some otyher info
you might find useful in the other reply I mnade over on c.s.n.p
33.3 install is not as easy as 4.2 install, but wwith the updated drivers disc
it should be pretty smooth. I do have a feeling though that PC operating
system installs are just natures was of punishing people who bought IDE to
save a few quid :-)
-bat.
Satoru Uzawa
related news groups. You'll get help from only a handful people (maybe
two hands). If you are going to insult Chuck more on the issue, surely
you'll lose help from us. Chuck is longtime contributor on these
news groups and really helpful. Beware!! So, keep your posts to related
news group and don't bother cross posting anymore.
BTW, you better read more on installation issue either on TIL or use deja
news to dig up related topic. This topic was discussed again and again.
The superblock issue is happened because you didn't put the driver on
NeXTSTEP-formatted floppy or the floppy disk was physically damaged. You
can find more information on TIL.
calcio (cal...@mail.erie.net) wrote:
: You need not reply if you do not wish to. That is the beauty of usenet
: readers, you can skip if you don't have a reply or if the msg doesn't
: pertain to something you're interested in. One should have been able to make
: a simple assumption that I was looking for anyone who had info on this. So,
: I chose to post to different NeXTStep groups since this is a nextstep
: question. Not everyone reads every single newsgroup even if they deal with
: different aspects of the OS. Finally, if this didn't apply to you, or you
: didn't feel like contributing anything that was ON TOPIC, why did YOU bother
: to reply??
--
Satoru Uzawa, sat...@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
calcio
tangent looking down his nose at me. If this is what you call helpful...I
don't want that type of help. Reread the respective posts and then tell me
that they were written in a polite manner. As for off topic... I think
programmers would have an idea of installing the OS, don't you? I think
that's a fair assumption. It's not necessarily crossposting unless you have
some sort of unwritten netiquette that says that one cannot post somewhere
where the question is like 2 mm off what you would consider the topic. I
don't insult or provide any backlash unless the person posting a reply
didn't really offer anything except for a snide remark.
Satoru Uzawa <sat...@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:7vshsj$m58$1...@agate.berkeley.edu...
calcio
you're answering, then please SKIP the msg. there is nothing saying you have
to reply. that is all that is necessary. this tangent didn't ever have to
get started. all you had to do, bat, is give your response and that's it.
nothing more was necessary. unless i was posting something about widgets for
sale, then i could see the need to correct me like i was someone 20 yrs
younger.
Chuck Swiger
> You need not reply if you do not wish to. That is the beauty of usenet
> readers, you can skip if you don't have a reply or if the msg doesn't
> pertain to something you're interested in. One should have been able to make
> a simple assumption that I was looking for anyone who had info on this.
Obviously. Think about it.
> So, I chose to post to different NeXTStep groups since this is a nextstep
> question. Not everyone reads every single newsgroup even if they deal with
> different aspects of the OS.
Most regulars on the NeXT newsgroups actually do read all of the groups you've
posted to.
> Finally, if this didn't apply to you, or you didn't feel like contributing
> anything that was ON TOPIC, why did YOU bother to reply??
I regret that you didn't understand my point.
It would be nice if people asking for help bothered to read the FAQ or the
charters for these newgroups, so they know enough to post their questions to
the right place. It would also be nice if people followed up their initial
questions by replying to the same thread rather than creating new threads in
other newsgroups.
People who try to make it easy to deal with their articles and who try to
follow the Usenet guidelines generally get more positive and more useful
responses.
calcio
from the 'helpful' people for just asking a question that is more or less on
topic...perhaps not according to you...I don't believe was necessary. if all
bat had done was simply give his reply and then move on, there wouldn't be
any negativity to go around. I had no idea that this community was/is so
small. if i'd known that every single person read every next group then i'd
have posted to one and one alone. furthermore, adding little jabs about my
current system and thus myself being 'point and clicky' are not all
necessary. veterans of a lot of OS's whether it be linux, unix, nextstep,
what have you, sometimes have a tendency to answer harmless questions with
an attitude that doesn't foster any sort of Advocacy for the OS at all. all
it does is make one think, why in the world did I get into this in the first
place. evidently as has been stated, the install for 3.3 is not very
friendly. the problem i had before was with a disk that was formatted to run
on intel not a next machine. that is what i bought NeXTStep for INTEL. I
don't see the point in porting a copy of the OS to another processor and
system if there isn't going to be adequate support either on the net or thru
apple or resellers. so when I go to download a driver onto an intel disk for
a version of ns 3.3 that was made for intel and it doesn't work, that's
sorta counterproductive for both the consumer and the company. at any rate,
whatever feedback that was actually positive that i've received, I've
thanked people for.
Chuck Swiger
> rather bat. sorry. if you feel that my posts are off topic and don't warrant
> you're answering, then please SKIP the msg.
The general idea is that it is the responsibility of the poster to direct
their articles to the right group, not for readers to have to skip articles
which are inappropriate.
Do us all a favor, please, and drop this line of argument.
Chuck Swiger
> ok, chuck, point made. however, all the negative backlash that I received
> from the 'helpful' people for just asking a question that is more or less on
> topic...perhaps not according to you...I don't believe was necessary.
Did you think it would be a good idea to post to newsgroups without reading
the FAQ for those groups first? I don't define what's "on topic" for these
newgroups; their charters do. The newsgroup charters are part of the FAQ,
which you would know if you'd actually read it.
Since you've brought it up, it is my opinion that you haven't gotten any
negative backlash from me and not much from other people, either. Obviously,
your definition of "negative" (or "necessary", for that matter) is somewhat
different from everybody else's.
> if all bat had done was simply give his reply and then move on, there
> wouldn't be any negativity to go around.
The source of the problem was not bat's reply.
Would you not agree that this...uhm...discussion would not have taken place if
you had responded differently to that one-line post I made? You remember, the
one with the smiley at the end that was honestly intended to convey a friendly
suggestion without spelling out all of these tedious details?
> I had no idea that this community was/is so small. if i'd known that every
> single person read every next group then i'd have posted to one and one
> alone.
Not every single person reads every NeXT group. Obviously.
This being said, my point that enough of the people who can answer your
questions *do* read all of the groups you've posted to is still correct.
> furthermore, adding little jabs about my current system and thus myself
> being 'point and clicky' are not all necessary.
Perhaps so.
> veterans of a lot of OS's whether it be linux, unix, nextstep, what have
> you, sometimes have a tendency to answer harmless questions with an attitude
> that doesn't foster any sort of Advocacy for the OS at all. all it does is
> make one think, why in the world did I get into this in the first place.
I don't think it is arrogant to make it plain to someone that they are having
the obvious explained to them, so long as you are reasonably polite about it.
YMMV...call it an "attitude" if you wish.
John C. Randolph
Those of us who have been NeXT users for ten years or more, tend to ask
Chuck Swiger when we have a NeXT sysadmin question.
You may want to tone it down a bit.
-jcr