The Definition of Islam for An Atheist
Mary
The lexical meaning of Islam is submission, and adherence to the
commands of Allah without objection. This is the true essence of
Islam. By obeying Allah and observing His commands, the Muslim would
be in harmony with the universe in which he lives, for everything in
this universe abides by the commands of Allah.
It is an established fact that everything in this universe follows
certain rule, and an unalterable law to which it submits; the sun, the
moon, the stars, the night, the day, the land, the trees, and the
beasts; all submit to a rule which Allah, the Creator, has designated
for all these things. Even man himself, when you consider his physical
construction, and biological compounds, his need for water and
nutrition, heat, air, light, rest, or sleep you would find him
submitting to a law under which he has no choice, just like other
creatures.
WHAT IS LIFE?
Man's existence in this world and the creation of this entire universe
are not mere accidents or products of a fortuitous nature. This
universe, every single atom of it, manifests and leads us to the
realization of a Loving, Merciful and All-powerful Creator. Without a
Creator, nothing can exist. Every single soul knows that he is
existing and that his existence is dependent upon a Creator he knows
for sure that he cannot create him self. Therefore it is his duty to
know his master, the Creator.
MANKIND
Man is a unique creature. God establishes man as His representative or
deputy to govern over all other creatures in this world. He is endowed
with the faculty of REASON, which sets him apart from all other
animals. Together with this faculty to discriminate and discern, man
is given the freedom (free-will) to choose for himself a way of life
worthy of his position as God's representative or to fall lower than
the lowest of all animals or creations. Man is born pure and sinless
and is given the choice to do righteous deeds or indulge in sins.
REVELATIONS
From the beginning of mankind, our Creator sent prophets to convey His
REVELATION and to invite human beings to the path of true PEACE and
OBEDIENCE to the ONE TRUE GOD.
This is ISLAM. This message is conveyed towards successive generations
of man through the different prophets, all inviting mankind to the
same path. However all the earlier messages or revelations from God
were distorted by people of later generations.
As a result, pure Revelation from our Creator was adulterated and
polluted with myths, superstitions, idol worship and irrational
philosophical ideologies. The religion of God in a sense was lost in a
plethora of religions. Human history is a testament of man's drift
between light and darkness, but God out of His Abundant Love for
mankind has not forsaken us. Islam is not a new religion. It is, in
essence, the same message and guidance which Allah revealed to all His
prophets, like Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, David,
Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Them). But the message that
was revealed to prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is Islam in its
comprehensive, complete and final form.
Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to
Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to
Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We
make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to
Allah (in Islam)."
Matthew Lybanon
<49b5f8d0-d5a9-417e...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
Mary <love.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does this have any connection with the topic of this newsgroup?
Jolly Roger
Matthew Lybanon <lyb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Does this have any connection with the topic of this newsgroup?
Take a wild guess.
My question to you is: Was it really necessary to reply to an obvious
spam to the group?
And next time, please don't quote the entire irrelevant post.
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VAXman-
>In article <lybanon-EBE284...@earthlink.us.supernews.com>,
> Matthew Lybanon <lyb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Does this have any connection with the topic of this newsgroup?
>
>Take a wild guess.
>
>My question to you is: Was it really necessary to reply to an obvious
>spam to the group?
>
>And next time, please don't quote the entire irrelevant post.
At least he didn't top-post the reply.
Religion... the only winning move is not to play!
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JF Mezei
is OT.
Our god is Steve Jobs and we pray to him to get new features added to OS-X.
Tim McNamara
Matthew Lybanon <lyb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Does this have any connection with the topic of this newsgroup?
Of course not. Missionary work by any faith never does have any
connection to the topic at hand. It is always an intrusion by someone
who wants to think that they know better.
Tim McNamara
JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
You idolater and fool, worshipping a false god. All hail the Woz!
JF Mezei
> You idolater and fool, worshipping a false god. All hail the Woz!
Woz did not build the places of worship (Apple stores) all over the
world to allow worshippers to make regular pilgrimages to admire and
adopt Apple's philosophy and products.
And Woz did not create the religious icons that clearly identify Apple
worshippers. Apple worshippers stand out in a crowd. Whether it is the
ipod's distinctive features and white cabling for headphones, unique
gestures made when using ipodtouch or iphone, or, of course, the lighted
apple logo on laptops that scream "I am a member of the Apple religion"
and make others jealous.
How often do you see catholics with a lighted crucifix hung from their
neck ?
The next step is for Apple to declare itself a non-profit religion,
lower its prices, and even get official holidays during the year. For
instance, January 24th would be "Macintosh day", (Birth of Mac was jan
24 1984). There would be a "Iphone update" holiday sometime in may-june,
and a "Product refresh" holiday in september. And we must not forget
about a day devoted to celebrate the birth of Steve Jobs.
And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
is expected to attend at least once in his life.
:-) :-) :-)
D Finnigan
> In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> The next step is for Apple to declare itself a non-profit religion,
>> lower its prices, and even get official holidays during the year. For
>> instance, January 24th would be "Macintosh day", (Birth of Mac was jan
>> 24 1984). There would be a "Iphone update" holiday sometime in may-june,
>> and a "Product refresh" holiday in september. And we must not forget
>> about a day devoted to celebrate the birth of Steve Jobs.
>
> April 1.
>
Did you know that there's an Easter Egg in 10.4.x (and maybe other versions
too) that sets the System folder's create/modification date to April 1,
1976?
Király
> Did you know that there's an Easter Egg in 10.4.x (and maybe other versions
> too) that sets the System folder's create/modification date to April 1,
> 1976?
I have never seen that. I just checked on my 10.4.11 disk and the
System folder's date is July 2 2008; the day I installed it.
--
K.
Lang may your lum reek.
Paul Sture
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > The next step is for Apple to declare itself a non-profit religion,
> > lower its prices, and even get official holidays during the year. For
> > instance, January 24th would be "Macintosh day", (Birth of Mac was jan
> > 24 1984). There would be a "Iphone update" holiday sometime in may-june,
> > and a "Product refresh" holiday in september. And we must not forget
> > about a day devoted to celebrate the birth of Steve Jobs.
>
> And of course, the most important date of all: Apple's birthday, which is
> April 1.
LOL!
--
Paul Sture
Tim McNamara
JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> > You idolater and fool, worshipping a false god. All hail the Woz!
>
>
> Woz did not build the places of worship (Apple stores) all over the
> world to allow worshippers to make regular pilgrimages to admire and
> adopt Apple's philosophy and products.
>
> And Woz did not create the religious icons that clearly identify
> Apple worshippers. Apple worshippers stand out in a crowd. Whether it
> is the ipod's distinctive features and white cabling for headphones,
> unique gestures made when using ipodtouch or iphone, or, of course,
> the lighted apple logo on laptops that scream "I am a member of the
> Apple religion" and make others jealous.
Yes. Jobs is obviously the Prophet of the Woz.
> How often do you see catholics with a lighted crucifix hung from
> their neck ?
Those are generally considered gauche, of course.
> The next step is for Apple to declare itself a non-profit religion,
> lower its prices, and even get official holidays during the year. For
> instance, January 24th would be "Macintosh day", (Birth of Mac was
> jan 24 1984). There would be a "Iphone update" holiday sometime in
> may-june, and a "Product refresh" holiday in september. And we must
> not forget about a day devoted to celebrate the birth of Steve Jobs.
>
> And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple
> woshipper is expected to attend at least once in his life.
>
> :-) :-) :-)
LOL!
Jamie Kahn Genet
just want you to know there _is_ help available, even for arseholes like
you. Please make an appointment with your GP ASAP.
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themselves from being arseholes or telling everyone they meet what an
arsehole they are *sigh*
NWW
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-DCA7A...@news.individual.net>, Jolly
> Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> writes:
> >In article <lybanon-EBE284...@earthlink.us.supernews.com>,
> > Matthew Lybanon <lyb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Does this have any connection with the topic of this newsgroup?
> >
> >Take a wild guess.
> >
> >My question to you is: Was it really necessary to reply to an obvious
> >spam to the group?
> >
> >And next time, please don't quote the entire irrelevant post.
>
> At least he didn't top-post the reply.
>
> Religion... the only winning move is not to play!
Personally I like this one, "Religion is mans worst invention."
JF Mezei
>> Religion... the only winning move is not to play!
>
> Personally I like this one, "Religion is mans worst invention."
There is absolutely nothing wrong with having loyalty to Apple
and worshipping its products and leaders. Such loyalty and worship are
beneficial to Apple shareholders like myself :-)
OK, the lighted Apple logo on laptops may be just a tad overboard in
terms of exhibiting one's belonging to the Apple religion but it
definitely isn't even close to a "worst invention" status.
Paul Sture
JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
> is expected to attend at least once in his life.
Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
--
Paul Sture
Jamie Kahn Genet
No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
acceptable.
VAXman-
>acceptable.
Then I'll never attend. I cut my hair for no one and no thing.
My ponytail is old enough to drink legally in all 50 states and grey enough
not to be carded for proof of it!
VAXman-
>In article <00A94E10...@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>> >> Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have
>> >> attended?
>> >
>> >No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
>> >acceptable.
>>
>> Then I'll never attend. I cut my hair for no one and no thing.
>>
>> My ponytail is old enough to drink legally in all 50 states and grey
>> enough not to be carded for proof of it!
>
>
><http://th02.deviantart.net/fs42/300W/f/2009/123/0/b/Rainbow_Bright_by_Sombe
>rxEcstasy.jpg>
LOL. I think I'd prefer to keep the rainbow colors in the sky; not in
my hair!
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <00A94E10...@SendSpamHere.ORG>):
> In article <1j9jvd8.53fvgkvzn5ivN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) writes:
>> Paul Sture <paul....@sture.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
>>>> is expected to attend at least once in his life.
>>>
>>> Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
>>
>> No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
>> acceptable.
>
> Then I'll never attend. I cut my hair for no one and no thing.
>
> My ponytail is old enough to drink legally in all 50 states and grey enough
> not to be carded for proof of it!
>
>
Come on down to Florida, and you'll still be carded. Certain places around
here card _everybody_.
--
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Paul Sture
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <00A94E10...@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
> > >> Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have
> > >> attended?
> > >
> > >No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
> > >acceptable.
> >
> > Then I'll never attend. I cut my hair for no one and no thing.
> >
> > My ponytail is old enough to drink legally in all 50 states and grey
> > enough not to be carded for proof of it!
>
> So dye it.
>
> <http://th02.deviantart.net/fs42/300W/f/2009/123/0/b/Rainbow_Bright_by_Sombe
> rxEcstasy.jpg>
Half a dozen years ago there was a sales assistant in my local Apple
Reseller who had hair those colours, spiky too. It's all boring white
shirts and dark suits now.
--
Paul Sture
VAXman-
>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:53:54 -0500, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote
>(in article <00A94E10...@SendSpamHere.ORG>):
>
>> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) writes:
>>> Paul Sture <paul....@sture.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>> JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
>>>>> is expected to attend at least once in his life.
>>>>
>>>> Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
>>>
>>> No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
>>> acceptable.
>>
>> Then I'll never attend. I cut my hair for no one and no thing.
>>
>> My ponytail is old enough to drink legally in all 50 states and grey enough
>> not to be carded for proof of it!
>>
>>
>
>here card _everybody_.
No thanks, I try to avoid places where the average age exceeds the average
temperature in fahrenheit.
John Varela
Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Paul Sture <paul....@sture.ch> wrote:
>
> > In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
> > > is expected to attend at least once in his life.
> >
> > Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
>
> No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
> acceptable.
What if you have no hair?
--
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Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email
commiebastard
> The Definition of Islam for An Atheist
>
> The lexical meaning of Islam is submission, and adherence to the
> commands of Allah without objection. This is the true essence of
> Islam. By obeying Allah and observing His commands, the Muslim would
> be in harmony with the universe in which he lives, for everything in
> this universe abides by the commands of Allah.
> It is an established fact that everything in this universe follows
> certain rule, and an unalterable law to which it submits; the sun, the
> moon, the stars, the night, the day, the land, the trees, and the
> beasts; all submit to a rule which Allah, the Creator, has designated
> for all these things. Even man himself, when you consider his physical
> construction, and biological compounds, his need for water and
> nutrition, heat, air, light, rest, or sleep you would find him
> submitting to a law under which he has no choice, just like other
> creatures.
>
> WHAT IS LIFE?
>
> Man's existence in this world and the creation of this entire universe
> are not mere accidents or products of a fortuitous nature. This
> universe, every single atom of it, manifests and leads us to the
> realization of a Loving, Merciful and All-powerful Creator. Without a
> Creator, nothing can exist. Every single soul knows that he is
> existing and that his existence is dependent upon a Creator he knows
> for sure that he cannot create him self. Therefore it is his duty to
> know his master, the Creator.
>
> MANKIND
>
> Man is a unique creature. God establishes man as His representative or
> deputy to govern over all other creatures in this world. He is endowed
> with the faculty of REASON, which sets him apart from all other
> animals. Together with this faculty to discriminate and discern, man
> is given the freedom (free-will) to choose for himself a way of life
> worthy of his position as God's representative or to fall lower than
> the lowest of all animals or creations. Man is born pure and sinless
> and is given the choice to do righteous deeds or indulge in sins.
>
> REVELATIONS
>
> From the beginning of mankind, our Creator sent prophets to convey His
> REVELATION and to invite human beings to the path of true PEACE and
> OBEDIENCE to the ONE TRUE GOD.
> This is ISLAM. This message is conveyed towards successive generations
> of man through the different prophets, all inviting mankind to the
> same path. However all the earlier messages or revelations from God
> were distorted by people of later generations.
> As a result, pure Revelation from our Creator was adulterated and
> polluted with myths, superstitions, idol worship and irrational
> philosophical ideologies. The religion of God in a sense was lost in a
> plethora of religions. Human history is a testament of man's drift
> between light and darkness, but God out of His Abundant Love for
> mankind has not forsaken us. Islam is not a new religion. It is, in
> essence, the same message and guidance which Allah revealed to all His
> prophets, like Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, David,
> Moses, Jesus and Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Them). But the message that
> was revealed to prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) is Islam in its
> comprehensive, complete and final form.
> Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to
> Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to
> Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We
> make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to
> Allah (in Islam)."
"The Definition of Islam for An Atheist"
And you guys were getting all over my ass saying a post on Windows 7
was inappropriate for a Mac group...?
VAXman-
>On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:23:17 UTC, jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
>Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
>>
>> > In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
>> > JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > > And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
>> > > is expected to attend at least once in his life.
>> >
>> > Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
>>
>> No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
>> acceptable.
>
Henna tattoo.
VAXman-
Islam is a religion; Weendoze is an evil maniacal cult. Neither which are
good for a healthy human experience.
Jamie Kahn Genet
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:23:17 UTC, jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie
> Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Paul Sture <paul....@sture.ch> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <0081b8f2$0$23797$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > > JF Mezei <jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > And Apple has an equivalent to the Haj: WWDC. And every Apple woshipper
> > > > is expected to attend at least once in his life.
> > >
> > > Do they also have to dye their hair as a sign that they have attended?
> >
> > No, you've got options - shaving an Apple logo into your hair is also
> > acceptable.
>
> What if you have no hair?
Paint a rainbow apple logo on your head.
Kurt Ullman
VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
> >What if you have no hair?
>
> Henna tattoo.
What a poser response. REAL zealots would have a REAL tattoo on their
head/
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VAXman-
>In article <00A94F34...@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Henna tattoo.
>
>head/
It seemed more in line with the hair dye job which itself is not permanent.
Besides, tattooing is a barbaric practice. Apple isn't a cult of barbarian
subcutaneous fad-art exhibitors... or is it?
Frank P. Eigler
: On Nov 19, 4:30=A0am, Mary <love.islam...@gmail.com> wrote:
: > The Definition of Islam for An Atheist
[appx 4 pages of of topic stuff snipped]
: "The Definition of Islam for An Atheist"
: And you guys were getting all over my ass saying a post on Windows 7
: was inappropriate for a Mac group...?
Not me, but I will get al over your @55 for quoting that whole thing on
Islam.
Geesh
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Nick Naym
Steiner at mich...@michelle.org wrote on 11/26/09 4:22 PM:
> In article <00A94FA0...@SendSpamHere.ORG>,
> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>> Besides, tattooing is a barbaric practice.
>
> No, it's not.
Perhaps not in the same league as body piercing/mutilation, or foot binding.
Maybe "tribal" would be a fairer categorization?
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Jolly Roger
The Other Guy <him-on-t...@fifth-and-main.com> wrote:
> I jerk off to pictures of donkeys almost every day, and I love the smell
> of my own shit. I drink my own piss, too. I've never had a girlfriend,
> yet I own 20 pair of panties and 30 bras! I am the DORK KING!
Thanks for sharing...
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