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salgud

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:01:27 PM1/4/10
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But she'd probably claw my face off.

I've had nothing but troubles with my iMac since I bought it over a year
and a half ago. Almost since it was new, I couldn't get any browser to
work, using all normal funtions, on it. Safari mostly worked, but would bog
down after a couple of hours, whether I was using it or not, and wouldn't
load a page until I rebooted. FF wouldn't allow me to reply to blogs or to
send email via an IMAP account. Sometimes, it couldn't load YouTube videos,
or would let me run one or two, then bog down. I also tried Opera, Camino,
Chrome (beta) and others. To top all that off, when I rebooted, my iMac
couldn't see my internet connection and was telling me I didn't have one.
Usually, after 5 or 10 minutes, it recognized the connection. Frustrating.

Neither the cable company, who gladly came out and replaced my modem,
though all the tests indicated it was fine, nor Apple, after 10 visits to
the Genius bar in 14 months, could help. Apple finally gave me a new iMac,
and copied my old system over, but the problem remained.

I finally decided this weekend to install SL, hoping it would help. Voila!
My iMac is once again a fully functioning machine! Don't know what SL does
differently, I just know it was mostly a bug fix release, and it fixed my
bugs! After I "test" rebooted about 10 times, with no problems finding my
internet connection, I haven't had to reboot again all weekend. Can cruise
the net to my heart's content, with no problems.

Don't think I'll ever like my iMac the way I like my iPhone, but I'm
certainly more fond of it now that it's fully working. I just hope it
continues that way.

Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:13:21 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 02:01 PM, salgud wrote:

(snip)

I don't know how you Maccies can cope with such problems... for years!
After 15 minutes, I'd get furious and make a Web page that would bring
the store down in no time at all.

Maybe you should consider buying a Dell with a 20" monitor for $429?

<http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04>

And JF Mezei is bragging about Apple support! What a laugh!

MC

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:41:18 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhteir$4qb$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Priam <pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:

And you hang out in this group because... ?

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"If you can, tell me something happy."
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Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:59:27 PM1/4/10
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Because I believe humans shouldn't act like RCA's dog salivating at
their master's voice. Those kind of dogs ruin our economy. This economy
is not only yours, it's mine too.

Father Justin

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:24:07 PM1/4/10
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Its called a troll. He hangs out in c.s.m.a and didn't get enough
attention there so here it is. nobody is taken seriously in the
advocacy groups anymore so there's going to be an influx on trolls in
the months to come.
Sounds like the OP needs to install the SL update.
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL958

All the problems listed are ones I deal with on a daily basis with PCs
from XP to 7 (or is it Seven?).
However I wouldn't be surprised if the OP is a nym shifting troll trying
to make Apple look bad. i.e. false flag op.


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Tom Stiller

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:37:47 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhteir$4qb$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Priam <pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:

> I don't know how you Maccies can cope with such problems... for years!
> After 15 minutes, I'd get furious and make a Web page that would bring
> the store down in no time at all.

Talk is cheap. Do it, if you can.

--
Tom Stiller

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Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:56:52 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 04:37 PM, Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article<hhteir$4qb$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Priam<pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know how you Maccies can cope with such problems... for years!
>> After 15 minutes, I'd get furious and make a Web page that would bring
>> the store down in no time at all.
>
> Talk is cheap. Do it, if you can.

Do what? I don't have any problem with my computer.

MC

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:03:23 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhtm9p$5fc$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Father Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:

<SNIP>


And JF Mezei is bragging about Apple support! What a laugh!
> >
> > And you hang out in this group because... ?
> >
>
> Its called a troll. He hangs out in c.s.m.a and didn't get enough
> attention there so here it is. nobody is taken seriously in the
> advocacy groups anymore so there's going to be an influx on trolls in
> the months to come.

Who has time for that? Not me. See ya, Priam.

Father Justin

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:04:12 PM1/4/10
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Indeed. The user is where the problem is.

However, I still bless you int he name of the father, son and holy spirit.
--
http://www.vatican.va

nospam

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:08:32 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhto5c$4rv$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, Priam
<pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:

> Do what? I don't have any problem with my computer.

that's good, because you have an awful lot of other problems.

VAXman-

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:18:40 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhteir$4qb$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Priam <pr...@notsosure.com> writes:
>On 01/04/2010 02:01 PM, salgud wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>I don't know how you Maccies can cope with such problems... for years!
>After 15 minutes, I'd get furious and make a Web page that would bring
>the store down in no time at all.
>
>Maybe you should consider buying a Dell with a 20" monitor for $429?
>
><http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04>

I followed this link but there's no page to select an Operating System.
All you can order with it is one of the Minesweeper or Solitaire gaming
support consoles. :)

--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG

http://www.quirkfactory.com/popart/asskey/eqn2.png

"Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"

VAXman-

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:27:46 PM1/4/10
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Wake up! The only *economy* you're seeing affected is that of your evil
lord Billzebub's. If you want to talk about ruination, let's talk about
what Micro$oft has done to ruin the computer software business with its
halfwit products and its strongarming criminal monopolistic ways. Your
view of this as a dichotomy of M$ v. Apple also displays your immaturity
within the business.

JF Mezei

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:09:23 PM1/4/10
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Priam wrote:

> Maybe you should consider buying a Dell with a 20" monitor for $429?
>
> <http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04>

Priam, you need to complete the customization of that computer. When I
finished it, it came to $1034. Would have been more if it had not chosen
a mouse/keyboard combo kit and selected them separately.

So it is very dishonest of you to claim a full system at $429 from Dell.

nospam

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:15:48 PM1/4/10
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In article <00b3c168$0$8053$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei...@vaxination.ca> wrote:

wait. priam is being dishonest? say it isn't so!

Father Justin

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:32:42 PM1/4/10
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We must forgive those who trespass against us.
I have forgiven HP.

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Father Justin

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:33:50 PM1/4/10
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On 1/4/10 5:03 PM, MC wrote:

As a man of the cloth, I ask you to forgive him.

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Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:49:39 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 05:18 PM, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:

>> <http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04>
>
> I followed this link but there's no page to select an Operating System.

VAXman or Mezei, you're just as dumb. What other OS than OS X can you
order when you buy a Mac?

Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:52:03 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 05:27 PM, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article<hhtkpo$r3q$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Priam<pr...@notsosure.com> writes:
>> On 01/04/2010 03:41 PM, MC wrote:
>>> In article<hhteir$4qb$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Priam<pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/04/2010 02:01 PM, salgud wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how you Maccies can cope with such problems... for years!
>>>> After 15 minutes, I'd get furious and make a Web page that would bring
>>>> the store down in no time at all.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you should consider buying a Dell with a 20" monitor for $429?
>>>>
>>>> <http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd
>>>> &cs=04>
>>>>
>>>> And JF Mezei is bragging about Apple support! What a laugh!
>>>
>>> And you hang out in this group because... ?
>>
>> Because I believe humans shouldn't act like RCA's dog salivating at
>> their master's voice. Those kind of dogs ruin our economy. This economy
>> is not only yours, it's mine too.
>
> Wake up! The only *economy* you're seeing affected is that of your evil
> lord Billzebub's. If you want to talk about ruination, let's talk about
> what Micro$oft has done to ruin the computer software business with its
> halfwit products and its strongarming criminal monopolistic ways. Your
> view of this as a dichotomy of M$ v. Apple also displays your immaturity
> within the business.

No. I explained this at lenght. Maybe you should learn reading and quote
what I wrote before commenting.

JF Mezei

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:44:15 PM1/4/10
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Priam wrote:

> VAXman or Mezei, you're just as dumb. What other OS than OS X can you
> order when you buy a Mac?


You're right. With a Mac, you get the full version of OS-X. With
Microsoft, there are a gazillion versions of Windows with different
features, pricing. (same with "Office".).

VAXman-

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:51:08 PM1/4/10
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At least OS X *IS* an OS. How may OSs have you ever experienced in your
brief pre-pubescent trolling lifetime?

Wes Groleau

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:14:49 PM1/4/10
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salgud wrote:
> I've had nothing but troubles with my iMac since I bought it over a year
> and a half ago. Almost since it was new, I couldn't get any browser to

Almost ? Does that mean when it was new, the browser worked but they
soon stopped ?

> the Genius bar in 14 months, could help. Apple finally gave me a new iMac,
> and copied my old system over, but the problem remained.

Sounds like shortly after you got it, something you did, or a power
surge, or some other event altered one or more files on the disk
causing a problem which was moved to the new iMac when they
"copied my old system over"

> I finally decided this weekend to install SL, hoping it would help. Voila!
> My iMac is once again a fully functioning machine! Don't know what SL does

So then you installed a new version of the O.S., thereby replacing
whatever file(s) had been corrupted, and/or wiping out some malware
you had allowed in.

(Yes, Macs can get _malware_ if the owner is careless. That statement
does NOT contradict the claim of no known Mac _viruses_.)

--
Wes Groleau

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which
the only specification is that it should run noiselessly.
-- unknown

Nick Naym

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:37:59 PM1/4/10
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In article hhto5c$4rv$2...@news.eternal-september.org, Priam at
pr...@notsosure.com wrote on 1/4/10 4:56 PM:

Priam-

Nobody cares.


--
iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)

Priam

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:54:40 PM1/4/10
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On 01/04/2010 06:09 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> Priam wrote:
>
>> Maybe you should consider buying a Dell with a 20" monitor for $429?
>>
>> <http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=bv1awkc&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04>
>
> Priam, you need to complete the customization of that computer. When I
> finished it, it came to $1034. Would have been more if it had not chosen
> a mouse/keyboard combo kit and selected them separately.

<http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10422849-263.html?tag=mncol;txt>

Lloyd Parsons

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:56:59 PM1/4/10
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In article <hhud47$sab$2...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Priam <pr...@notsosure.com> wrote:

Strange, your link has zero to do with completing the customization of
that Dell. I guess your reading skills are missing.

But I digress... Here's the relevant part of the article :

"A few people"

Salgud

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:42:49 AM1/5/10
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On 1/4/10 7:14 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
> salgud wrote:
>> I've had nothing but troubles with my iMac since I bought it over a year
>> and a half ago. Almost since it was new, I couldn't get any browser to
>
> Almost ? Does that mean when it was new, the browser worked but they
> soon stopped ?
>
Exactly.

>> the Genius bar in 14 months, could help. Apple finally gave me a new
>> iMac,
>> and copied my old system over, but the problem remained.
>
> Sounds like shortly after you got it, something you did, or a power
> surge, or some other event altered one or more files on the disk
> causing a problem which was moved to the new iMac when they
> "copied my old system over"
>

Most likely, the Genius and I agreed.


>> I finally decided this weekend to install SL, hoping it would help.
>> Voila!
>> My iMac is once again a fully functioning machine! Don't know what SL
>> does
>
> So then you installed a new version of the O.S., thereby replacing
> whatever file(s) had been corrupted, and/or wiping out some malware
> you had allowed in.
>
> (Yes, Macs can get _malware_ if the owner is careless. That statement
> does NOT contradict the claim of no known Mac _viruses_.)
>

Will probably never know if it was some sort of malware or some system
glitch, as you suggest.

Obviously, this kind of thing, contrary to fanboi beliefs, can and does
occasionally happen on a mac. I believe it happens much less frequently
on macs than on Windoze machines, but I don't have any numbers to prove
that.

Funny how the fanbois accuse me of being a troll for reporting problems
with my iMac. Of course, I must be a troll! It's impossible for anyone
to have problems with an Apple product!! When I reported these problems
here back when they were first occurring, I was accused of being a troll
then - just making it all up. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world!


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Father Justin

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:19:23 PM1/5/10
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On 1/5/10 12:08 PM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<hhvj5b$uk7$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

> Salgud<spamb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Funny how the fanbois accuse me of being a troll for reporting problems
>> with my iMac. Of course, I must be a troll! It's impossible for anyone
>> to have problems with an Apple product!! When I reported these problems
>> here back when they were first occurring, I was accused of being a troll
>> then - just making it all up. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world!
>
> You still misunderstand. When you report a problem that no one else has
> encountered, and you claim that the problem is endemic with all
> Macintoshes, we tell you that you're casting the blame in the wrong
> direction. And when you continue to insist that you're right and that
> everyone else is wrong, then you get called a troll.
>
> And you durned well know that none of us here have ever said that it's
> impossible for anyone to have problems with an Apple product.
>

My problem is that nothing goes wrong. I mean, I love spyware! Viruses
give life that extra pizzaz! Nothing beats having your data eaten by a
macro virus.

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Salgud

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:27:47 PM1/5/10
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On 1/5/10 10:08 AM, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<hhvj5b$uk7$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Salgud<spamb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Funny how the fanbois accuse me of being a troll for reporting problems
>> with my iMac. Of course, I must be a troll! It's impossible for anyone
>> to have problems with an Apple product!! When I reported these problems
>> here back when they were first occurring, I was accused of being a troll
>> then - just making it all up. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world!
>
> You still misunderstand. When you report a problem that no one else has
> encountered, and you claim that the problem is endemic with all
> Macintoshes, we tell you that you're casting the blame in the wrong
> direction. And when you continue to insist that you're right and that
> everyone else is wrong, then you get called a troll.
>
> And you durned well know that none of us here have ever said that it's
> impossible for anyone to have problems with an Apple product.
>
Funny, I don't recall saying that my problems were "endemic". Can you
show me that post?

John Varela

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:52:55 PM1/5/10
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:42:49 UTC, Salgud <spamb...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Funny how the fanbois accuse me of being a troll for reporting problems
> with my iMac. Of course, I must be a troll! It's impossible for anyone
> to have problems with an Apple product!! When I reported these problems
> here back when they were first occurring, I was accused of being a troll
> then - just making it all up. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world!

Perhaps when you originally reported the problems you didn't make it
clear that the system had worked for a time and then gone bad.

If you had, someone might have suggested your problem was malware or
a corrupted file and that you should try reinstalling Leopard.

If you did give the whole story at that time and no one made the
suggestion, then shame on us. Nevertheless, if you insist on using
terms like "fanboi" the presumption that you are trolling is natural
and nothing you have said so far makes the accusation unreasonable.

--
John Varela
Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email

salgud

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:21:32 PM1/6/10
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On 5 Jan 2010 21:52:55 GMT, John Varela wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:42:49 UTC, Salgud <spamb...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Funny how the fanbois accuse me of being a troll for reporting problems
>> with my iMac. Of course, I must be a troll! It's impossible for anyone
>> to have problems with an Apple product!! When I reported these problems
>> here back when they were first occurring, I was accused of being a troll
>> then - just making it all up. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world!
>
> Perhaps when you originally reported the problems you didn't make it
> clear that the system had worked for a time and then gone bad.
>

I believe I did, but it's been a long time.

> If you had, someone might have suggested your problem was malware or
> a corrupted file and that you should try reinstalling Leopard.
>

I would have, if the Genius' had suggested it.

> If you did give the whole story at that time and no one made the
> suggestion, then shame on us. Nevertheless, if you insist on using
> terms like "fanboi" the presumption that you are trolling is natural
> and nothing you have said so far makes the accusation unreasonable.

Don't worry! I don't mind being called a "troll" by a "fanboi"! Kind of an
honor, actually.

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the_niner_nation

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Jan 9, 2010, 10:56:05 PM1/9/10
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"salgud" <spamb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> But she'd probably claw my face off.

>
> I've had nothing but troubles with my iMac since I bought it over a year
> and a half ago. Almost since it was new, I couldn't get any browser to
> work, using all normal funtions, on it. Safari mostly worked, but would
> bog
> down after a couple of hours, whether I was using it or not, and wouldn't
> load a page until I rebooted. FF wouldn't allow me to reply to blogs or to
> send email via an IMAP account. Sometimes, it couldn't load YouTube
> videos,
> or would let me run one or two, then bog down. I also tried Opera, Camino,
> Chrome (beta) and others. To top all that off, when I rebooted, my iMac
> couldn't see my internet connection and was telling me I didn't have one.
> Usually, after 5 or 10 minutes, it recognized the connection. Frustrating.
>
> Neither the cable company, who gladly came out and replaced my modem,
> though all the tests indicated it was fine, nor Apple, after 10 visits to

> the Genius bar in 14 months, could help. Apple finally gave me a new iMac,
> and copied my old system over, but the problem remained.
>
> I finally decided this weekend to install SL, hoping it would help. Voila!
> My iMac is once again a fully functioning machine! Don't know what SL does
> differently, I just know it was mostly a bug fix release, and it fixed my
> bugs! After I "test" rebooted about 10 times, with no problems finding my
> internet connection, I haven't had to reboot again all weekend. Can cruise
> the net to my heart's content, with no problems.
>
> Don't think I'll ever like my iMac the way I like my iPhone, but I'm
> certainly more fond of it now that it's fully working. I just hope it
> continues that way.


why not start afresh with the new machine the apple store offered you?

you probalby buggered up your old computer with whatever non working
configuration you preferred but thought was awesome at the time and it
simply migrated to your new computer.

duuuhhhh!!!!

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