IP Address Security Needed
Cori
Macintosh-using friend whose IP address was banned from a message
board by posting a link to a free service for changing or scrambling
ISPs. Well, my friend has changed to a service which is faster and
needs to do this again, and make sure that whatever he uses does not
slow down the speed of uploading, downloading, or whatever he plans to
do. Of course I can't remember which group or which service was
used. Anyone able to help? Thanks.
Cori
heiko recktenwald
You call that security?
John McWilliams
Which message board? And what is your "friend" wanting to do, troll, or
spam??
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Tim McNamara
<3b98dd90-ae56-4970...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Cori <cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
If he's changed Internet services, he will have a new IP address and
this should be a none problem. Your question suggests that he is a
serial spammer or other some-such miscreant if he keeps getting blocked
from online forums and message boards.
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"I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."
Cori
> If he's changed Internet services, he will have a new IP address and
> this should be a none problem. Your question suggests that he is a
> serial spammer or other some-such miscreant if he keeps getting blocked
> from online forums and message boards.
He's only blocked from one, and he posts there only enough to maintain
his account. Thing is, his ISP gives away what region of the country
he is from just for starters. He wants to surf in anonymity as well
as continue access to this message board where there have been some
creative differences.
Cori
Tom Harrington
<157e4371-44d3-4d20...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Cori <cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
So, um, this message board blocks his entire region of the country? I
don't get it. First you said he was banned by IP address, but since
that has changed it doesn't apply. But now he's apparently still banned
for some reason unrelated to IP address, and you want us to help him
bypass the discussion site's user-blocking system? It seems to me that
either (a) this site blocks people for no good reason, in which case it
sucks and friend should move on to saner pastures (it's not like there's
any shortage of web sites on any topic), or (b) this site is banning
friend for a good reason and friend has no business trying to force his
way in.
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Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
Cori
was recommended before--to disguise from the PC users that you are
using a Mac. Trouble is, it can't have been that, or if it was it was
an earlier version I now can't find, as the current version is for OS
X 10.5 or higher.
Cori
Calum
For web forums, one could presumably just enable the Develop menu in
Safari, and tell it to masquerade as one of the Windows User Agents.
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Tim McNamara
<a0e5a66a-5eb9-4a75...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Cori <cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It can't have been that under any version. A MAC address has nothing to
do with the IP address of a Mac (note the capitalizations differences:
MAC does not equal Mac(intosh)).
Tim Streater
It's the ethernet address of the interface, basically a 48-bit number.
I'm recalling that the first 24 bits indicate the vendor and the other
24 bits were unique to the interface as the vendor built them.
Vendor 24-bits originally issued by Xerox but someone else now, I think.
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Tim
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Cori
> It can't have been that under any version. A MAC address has nothing to
> do with the IP address of a Mac (note the capitalizations differences:
> MAC does not equal Mac(intosh)).
Yeah, I figured that when I looked through a lot of such applications
and found many only for PCs. Presumably PC users know this, but...how
very confusing when trying to find something specifically for
disguising a Mac!
In answer to Tom's question, about the message board thing: he has
the idea that if "they" can learn from his ISP what region he is from
AND that he is a Macintosh user, "they" might figure out it is *him.*
And, not even touching that subject, it's a whole new decade now and
just a good idea to be as anonymous as possible online.
Cori
JF Mezei
evade blocks): PROXY SERVER.
Google should tell him more about it.
D Finnigan
>
> AND that he is a Macintosh user, "they" might figure out it is *him.*
>
Does he visit a PC forum? ;-)
Tom Harrington
<a95cc475-9f56-4bfb...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Cori <cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In answer to Tom's question, about the message board thing: he has
> the idea that if "they" can learn from his ISP what region he is from
> AND that he is a Macintosh user, "they" might figure out it is *him.*
> And, not even touching that subject, it's a whole new decade now and
> just a good idea to be as anonymous as possible online.
Yes, but why is he trying to get into this web site when the site
managers have specifically decided they do not want him there? In what
way is this even remotely ethical? If they don't want him on their
site, what the hell gives him the right to try and sneak in?
Kevin McMurtrie
Tim Streater <timst...@waitrose.com> wrote:
> On 03/01/2010 22:17, Tim McNamara wrote:
> > In article
> > <a0e5a66a-5eb9-4a75...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> > Cori<cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is an Application called ChangeMAC which is very much like what
> >> was recommended before--to disguise from the PC users that you are
> >> using a Mac. Trouble is, it can't have been that, or if it was it
> >> was an earlier version I now can't find, as the current version is
> >> for OS X 10.5 or higher.
> >
> > It can't have been that under any version. A MAC address has nothing to
> > do with the IP address of a Mac (note the capitalizations differences:
> > MAC does not equal Mac(intosh)).
>
> It's the ethernet address of the interface, basically a 48-bit number.
> I'm recalling that the first 24 bits indicate the vendor and the other
> 24 bits were unique to the interface as the vendor built them.
>
> Vendor 24-bits originally issued by Xerox but someone else now, I think.
The MAC address is used for local automatic routing so it doesn't travel
very far. The '-e' option in tcpdump shows it in traffic.
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David Empson
> On 03/01/2010 22:17, Tim McNamara wrote:
> > In article
> > <a0e5a66a-5eb9-4a75...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> > Cori<cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is an Application called ChangeMAC which is very much like what
> >> was recommended before--to disguise from the PC users that you are
> >> using a Mac. Trouble is, it can't have been that, or if it was it
> >> was an earlier version I now can't find, as the current version is
> >> for OS X 10.5 or higher.
> >
> > It can't have been that under any version. A MAC address has nothing to
> > do with the IP address of a Mac (note the capitalizations differences:
> > MAC does not equal Mac(intosh)).
>
> It's the ethernet address of the interface, basically a 48-bit number.
> I'm recalling that the first 24 bits indicate the vendor and the other
> 24 bits were unique to the interface as the vendor built them.
For vendors larger than hobbyists, yes.
> Vendor 24-bits originally issued by Xerox but someone else now, I think.
IEEE.
They sell Organisationally Unique Identifiers (OUI, a unique 24-bit
number, corresponding to 16 million MAC addresses) for about US$1000.
They also sell blocks of 1024 addresses for about US$300. Not cost
effective if you may sell more than 3000 products.
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David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
Cori
Yes, but there are a trillion of them, ranging from free to $100.00,
and ranging from fast to slow! Isn't there a recommended one?
Cori
Cori
Yer wicked! I love it! Yes, most of them are by definition PC
users. They also think they're politically correct, and it's easy to
get in trouble!
Cori
JF Mezei
> He's only blocked from one, and he posts there only enough to maintain
> his account. Thing is, his ISP gives away what region of the country
> he is from just for starters. He wants to surf in anonymity as well
> as continue access to this message board where there have been some
> creative differences.
Look for "proxy server". You'll have to do the rest of your homework to
help your friend
JF Mezei
> Yes, but there are a trillion of them, ranging from free to $100.00,
> and ranging from fast to slow! Isn't there a recommended one?
Let your friend do his homework and choose the proxy service that works
for him.
Tim McNamara
<a95cc475-9f56-4bfb...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Cori <cmashiel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2:17�pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > It can't have been that under any version. �A MAC address has nothing to
> > do with the IP address of a Mac (note the capitalizations differences: �
> > MAC does not equal Mac(intosh)).
>
> Yeah, I figured that when I looked through a lot of such applications
> and found many only for PCs. Presumably PC users know this, but...how
> very confusing when trying to find something specifically for
> disguising a Mac!
OK, here's the short answer: there is no software you can install on
your computer that will hide your IP address from the rest of the
internet. If it could be done, it would prevent the internet from
sending any packets back to your computer.
> In answer to Tom's question, about the message board thing: he has
> the idea that if "they" can learn from his ISP what region he is from
> AND that he is a Macintosh user, "they" might figure out it is *him.*
Yeah. And that's why you're not getting any help here. Board owners
can block people if they choose to do so; people who try to circumvent
those blocks probably deserve to be blocked for one reason or another.
IMHO it's time to go play somewhere else than that board anyway- who
wants to deal with some idiot board owner who blocks an entire region
based on IP address?
> And, not even touching that subject, it's a whole new decade now and
> just a good idea to be as anonymous as possible online.
Only if you're looking at kiddie porn, buying or selling drugs, planning
terrorist acts, etc.
Warren Oates
Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> > And, not even touching that subject, it's a whole new decade now and
> > just a good idea to be as anonymous as possible online.
>
> Only if you're looking at kiddie porn, buying or selling drugs, planning
> terrorist acts, etc.
Not even touching those subjects, wtf does a "whole new decade" have to
do with anything? Anyway, the pedants will insist that the decade
doesn't start until 2011. Me, I disagree. A decade can mean any ten
years in a row, starting whenever you choose.
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