Re: MacWorld tests the new i5 and i7 iMacs
Joe Bartenal
> Here is their summary:
>
> Macworld�s buying advice
> With the new 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac and the 2.8GHz Core i7 iMac, Apple
> has not only blurred the line between consumer and professional
> systems, it's darn near erased it. The 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac offers
> faster performance at most tasks than the 2.66GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro.
> The Core i5 iMac also has more memory and more storage space than the
> 2.66GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro, while being $500 less (plus you get a
> 27-inch screen with the iMac). Unless you absolutely require
> additional PCI cards, multiple internal hard drives, or a lot of RAM,
> the Core i5 iMac makes a strong case for the being the go-to system
> for most Mac professionals.
>
> By "a lot of RAM", they mean more than 8 GB.
>
> It can't be long before the Mac Pro has i7 processors, or whatever Intel
> will produce to be the next step up from the i7.
This goodie looks just too nice to be true! Did you see the ad:
http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#large
What a list of features: 16 x 9 screen, no visual interruptions, more
screen real estate, and it goes on and on!
The only aspect that I find raises questions is why the i5 Quad Core
model is $300 more than the dual core. Ok, the video chip is also a bit
better on this model but, hell, the i5 processors sells for $199.99.
It's just as if you threw away the Dual Core and got ripped off an extra
$100 to get the i5.
Joe
filipp
> This goodie looks just too nice to be true! Did you see the ad:
>
> http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#large
5:35 - "... we even power down processors between keystrokes". Sounds
scary! :-)
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Paul Sture
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> Here is their summary:
>
> Macworld�s buying advice
> With the new 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac and the 2.8GHz Core i7 iMac, Apple
> has not only blurred the line between consumer and professional
> systems, it's darn near erased it. The 2.66GHz Core i5 iMac offers
> faster performance at most tasks than the 2.66GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro.
> The Core i5 iMac also has more memory and more storage space than the
> 2.66GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro, while being $500 less (plus you get a
> 27-inch screen with the iMac). Unless you absolutely require
> additional PCI cards, multiple internal hard drives, or a lot of RAM,
> the Core i5 iMac makes a strong case for the being the go-to system
> for most Mac professionals.
>
> By "a lot of RAM", they mean more than 8 GB.
>
> It can't be long before the Mac Pro has i7 processors, or whatever Intel
> will produce to be the next step up from the i7.
Drrrooool
;-)
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Paul Sture
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <4b064c68$0$3857$7b1e...@news.nbl.fi>):
> On 2009-11-20 05:57:21 +0200, Joe Bartenal <Jo...@jookkd.com> said:
>> This goodie looks just too nice to be true! Did you see the ad:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#large
>
> 5:35 - "... we even power down processors between keystrokes". Sounds
> scary! :-)
>
>
just so you know... you're talking to Priam...
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Priam
> On 2009-11-20 05:57:21 +0200, Joe Bartenal <Jo...@jookkd.com> said:
>> This goodie looks just too nice to be true! Did you see the ad:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#large
>
> 5:35 - "... we even power down processors between keystrokes". Sounds
> scary! :-)
I even heard they power down the GPU between the pixels! How's that? I
mean this Mac is a beast. You've got to halt it! It outpaces any PC on
the market at half the price.
And you know, you buy a PC, what do you get? A PC, that's it, that's
all. A PC is a PC is a PC.
You buy a Mac, what do you get? "An all in one product based on an
amazing technology", "an evolution of a product that was so right", and,
of course, "The entire front of the new iMac is just *dominated* by this
incredible new 16 x 9 display".
Hear this? Dominated by the incredible! Who wants a PC? PC is for jerks.
Final.
I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac! I'm sick of my 19" display.
I want huge, I want to dominate. I want to stick my nose 3 inches from
this screen and see it as my whole world.
Why shouldn't I? I mean, the thing is green. No industrial production
involved, it comes right out of Stevie's brain. Green!
I need it, I need it, I need it! Umm gonna buy one, umm gonna buy two,
umm gonna buy three!
Hey, what would you think about this short bearded guy for a Joooby
replacement? Doesn't he render his text convincingly? I believe Jooby
still wrote it though. But, you know, what a nice transition!
Priam
Of course! And it's no use reading the headers. Anytime somebody is not
licking Jooby's ass here, who else could it be?
So, don't read this guy. You might just get back in touch with reality.
JF Mezei
> I even heard they power down the GPU between the pixels! How's that? I
> mean this Mac is a beast. You've got to halt it! It outpaces any PC on
> the market at half the price.
Dear Monsieur Priam,
You should know that Apple and other high end manufacturers do put
plenty of power management features into their computers. Originally
developped for laptops to extend battery autonomy, they decided it was
worth putting onto desktops since it is a "green" feature that reduces
overall power consumption. Apple even introduced such featrures in its
Xserve to reduce power consumptoin by up to 19%.
Are those features unique ? No. But it is possible that Apple's
implementation is better that others. And those are features you don't
get out of low end el-cheapo commodity PCs.
> I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac!
Glad you are starting to see the light.
> I need it, I need it, I need it! Umm gonna buy one, umm gonna buy two,
> umm gonna buy three!
Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! That's the spirit. Exorcise your linux deamons. The
power of Jobs compells you, the power of Jobs compells you. (sorry, am
watching "The Exorcist" so couldn't resist :-)
Quick, get to the nearest Apple store and prove your loyalty by handing
your credit card to an Apple representative and don't leave until you
have an Apple product in your hands.
Priam
> Priam wrote:
>
>> I even heard they power down the GPU between the pixels! How's that? I
>> mean this Mac is a beast. You've got to halt it! It outpaces any PC on
>> the market at half the price.
>
> Dear Monsieur Priam,
> You should know that Apple and other high end manufacturers do put
> plenty of power management features into their computers. Originally
> developped for laptops to extend battery autonomy, they decided it was
> worth putting onto desktops since it is a "green" feature that reduces
> overall power consumption. Apple even introduced such featrures in its
> Xserve to reduce power consumptoin by up to 19%.
Dear Mr JF,
The only green computer is one you refrain from buying after figuring
out -- Mac users really need to figure out -- how stupid Jooby's
avalanche of superlatives is:
<http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-12>
See? 9th position, two below... Acer!!!
> Are those features unique ? No. But it is possible that Apple's
> implementation is better that others. And those are features you don't
> get out of low end el-cheapo commodity PCs.
As far as I know, all PCs power down the HD, monitor and CPU. The CPU
might also be powered down, though maybe not between keystrokes :) See:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_power_management#APM_functions>
Everything Jooby feeds you, you believe is new and totally relevant.
Meanwhile, back in China, people who built your toy-PCs unite family's
ressources to buy a PC with a VIA CPU and a 15" screen, or a netbook.
They save money and lend to Americans to finance their artistic dreams
and wars.
But the day will soon come when they will have imported all our industry
and know-how, cause that's what THEY import. This day, I'm not sure
they'll still contribute to our nonsense.
>> I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac, I wanna a Mac!
>
> Glad you are starting to see the light.
You bet, I see the light... but it's rather dark.
Priam
> Dear Monsieur Priam,
Dear Monsieur JF,
Since you take your time to answer, I might as wall repeat the question
that haunts me and to which you haven't answered yet.
Why the hell do you have to pay the price of the Core 2 Duo processor
(included in the standard 27" iMac), plus $300 for an i5 processor when
the i5 costs $199.99 at NewEgg.
iMac Core 2 iMac i5 Difference
3.06GHz Core 2 ($145) 2.66GHz i5 ($200) $55
HD 4670 ($65) HD 4850 ($117) $52 (1)
____________________________________________________________
Original cost ($210) + $300 additional = $510
Whereas you should pay $317. What's the extra $200 for? Jooby Xmas gift?
(1) This is the difference on discrete graphic cards. The diff on
integrated graphic cards is certainly much less.
I'm comparing Mac prices to Mac prices, to demonstrate the huuuuge Apple
tax. I mean, that's $200 on two components! Steiner, do you have an
explanation?
What does it take before an M&M sees the light?