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Ant

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:00:08 AM6/19/13
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Hello.

Is it me or does Apple's
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables/cable_chooser
not carry any video cable adapters that go to S-Video and composite
inputs (an old Pasasonic projector TV from Y2K) from MacBook Pros (2008
and 2012 models)?

Thank you in advance. :)
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JF Mezei

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:11:38 AM6/19/13
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On 13-06-19 01:00, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Is it me or does Apple's
> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables/cable_chooser
> not carry any video cable adapters that go to S-Video and composite
> inputs (an old Pasasonic projector TV from Y2K) from MacBook Pros (2008
> and 2012 models)?

You may find some adaptors from 3rd parties. However, note that
composite does not allow resolutions above NTSC/PAL (aka: 640*480 for
north america).

You can get mini-DVI to VGA, and from VGA to RGB to plug into your TV.
I believe RGB allows greater image size/resolution.

JF Mezei

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:15:29 AM6/19/13
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On 13-06-19 01:00, Ant wrote:
A better page is:

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables

The real listing of cable options, not limited by some little script.

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David Empson

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Jun 19, 2013, 1:25:21 AM6/19/13
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Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> Is it me or does Apple's
> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables/
> cable_chooser not carry any video cable adapters that go to S-Video and
> composite inputs (an old Pasasonic projector TV from Y2K) from MacBook
> Pros (2008 and 2012 models)?
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

Your observation is correct. That cable chooser doesn't offer any
options for composite or S-Video output.

For recent Mac models with Mini DisplayPort, Apple never made an adapter
to produce composite or S-Video (or component, for that matter). As far
as I can tell, Mini DisplayPort (or the GPUs Apple used) do not support
TV-compatible video output. You would need an external frame
buffer/converter box of some kind.

For earlier models with DVI (e.g. the Early 2008 MacBook Pro), Apple did
sell an adapter called the "DVI to Video adapter" (M9267G) which
produced Composite and S-Video output. The Apple Store is no longer
offering any of the DVI adapters, so you would have to search elsewhere
to find old stock.

For models with Mini-DVI ports, there was also a Mini-DVI to
S-Video/Composite adapter (M9319G), but it is also no longer available
(and wouldn't work with your client's 2008 MacBook Pro anyway).

This page has images and compatibility info for all of Apple's recent
adapters.

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3235

It implies the DVI to Video adapter is still available, but the page
hasn't been updated since March so it was probably discontinued
recently.

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Ant

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:14:11 AM6/19/13
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On 6/18/2013 10:11 PM PT, JF Mezei typed:

>> Is it me or does Apple's
>>
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables/cable_chooser
>> not carry any video cable adapters that go to S-Video and composite
>> inputs (an old Pasasonic projector TV from Y2K) from MacBook Pros (2008
>> and 2012 models)?
>
> You may find some adaptors from 3rd parties. However, note that
> composite does not allow resolutions above NTSC/PAL (aka: 640*480 for
> north america).

Ah, OK. This is for fullscreen videos from MacBook Pros.


> You can get mini-DVI to VGA, and from VGA to RGB to plug into your TV.
> I believe RGB allows greater image size/resolution.

MacBook Pro 2008 came with an Apple DVI to VGA adapter. So, my client
just needs to go from DVI/VGA to TV with its composite or S-Video for
video output.

IIRC, MacBook Pro 2012 (mid-summer) came has DisplayPort, ThunderBolt,
and HDMI ports for video outputs.

FYI, this 40"(?) Y2K Panasonic projection TV only has composite and
S-video inputs on both of its back and front. There are other stuff
connected like VCR, DTV converter box, DVD player, and a LaserDisc
player. Yep, lots of oldies!
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Ant

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:15:42 AM6/19/13
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On 6/18/2013 10:15 PM PT, JF Mezei typed:

> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/cables
>
> The real listing of cable options, not limited by some little script.

Interesting, but I must be blind (tired) and don't see any S-video and
composites adapters?
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Ant

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Jun 24, 2013, 2:54:45 AM6/24/13
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On 6/18/2013 10:25 PM PT, David Empson typed:

> For recent Mac models with Mini DisplayPort, Apple never made an adapter
> to produce composite or S-Video (or component, for that matter). As far
> as I can tell, Mini DisplayPort (or the GPUs Apple used) do not support
> TV-compatible video output. You would need an external frame
> buffer/converter box of some kind.

Hmm, any suggestions from BestBuy.com, Fry's Electronics (frys.com),
RadioShack.com, etc.? My searches are not getting good results, or they
really don't exist.


> For earlier models with DVI (e.g. the Early 2008 MacBook Pro), Apple did
> sell an adapter called the "DVI to Video adapter" (M9267G) which
> produced Composite and S-Video output. The Apple Store is no longer
> offering any of the DVI adapters, so you would have to search elsewhere
> to find old stock.

I found
http://www.amazon.com/APPLE-M9267G-DVI-Video-Adapter/dp/B0000ACOBL/ for
$39.00 (new and with seven in stock). I am trying to find non-Apple
third party adapters, but I am having no lucks on the web sites that I
mentioned above.
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isw

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Jun 24, 2013, 2:06:36 PM6/24/13
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In article <1fSdnc7ZZZSmcFrM...@earthlink.com>,
Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> On 6/18/2013 10:25 PM PT, David Empson typed:
>
> > For recent Mac models with Mini DisplayPort, Apple never made an adapter
> > to produce composite or S-Video (or component, for that matter). As far
> > as I can tell, Mini DisplayPort (or the GPUs Apple used) do not support
> > TV-compatible video output. You would need an external frame
> > buffer/converter box of some kind.
>
> Hmm, any suggestions from BestBuy.com, Fry's Electronics (frys.com),
> RadioShack.com, etc.? My searches are not getting good results, or they
> really don't exist.
>
>
> > For earlier models with DVI (e.g. the Early 2008 MacBook Pro), Apple did
> > sell an adapter called the "DVI to Video adapter" (M9267G) which
> > produced Composite and S-Video output. The Apple Store is no longer
> > offering any of the DVI adapters, so you would have to search elsewhere
> > to find old stock.

In order for there to be an inexpensive adapter to composite or S-Video
(which is just a separated version of the signals combined in
"composite"), the Mac needs to provide analog video -- RGB, usually.

If the Mac uses a mini-DVI port, the analog signals are (probably)
present; for mini-DisplayPort, they are not.

If all you have for starters is digital signals (i.e. mini-DisplayPort),
the conversion is still possible but a lot more complicated. There are
external boxes that do the job, but they cost somewhat more than a small
"adapter".

For inexpensive versions of either, check eBay. I've gotten mini-DVI to
composite adapters there for a few dollars, though in one case the first
didn't work and I had to convince them to send a replacement.

Isaac

Ant

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Jun 24, 2013, 2:56:27 PM6/24/13
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...
> In order for there to be an inexpensive adapter to composite or S-Video
> (which is just a separated version of the signals combined in
> "composite"), the Mac needs to provide analog video -- RGB, usually.

> If the Mac uses a mini-DVI port, the analog signals are (probably)
> present; for mini-DisplayPort, they are not.

> If all you have for starters is digital signals (i.e. mini-DisplayPort),
> the conversion is still possible but a lot more complicated. There are
> external boxes that do the job, but they cost somewhat more than a small
> "adapter".
...

For the old 15" MacBook Pro (mid-2008) with its DVI video port, it just
needs an inexpensive video adapter like
http://www.amazon.com/APPLE-M9267G-DVI-Video-Adapter/dp/B0000ACOBL/ ...

To use the old and the newer 13.3" MacBook Pro (mid-2012; HDMI;
ThunderBolt; DisplayPort) would need external boxes like
http://www.sears.com/atlona-technologies-at-hd530-atlona-hdmi-dvi/p-SP101A12076S6111317801
(almost $350! Ouch!!!)

Am I correct? Thank you in advance. :)
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YK

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Jun 24, 2013, 8:51:07 PM6/24/13
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On 6/24/13 2:54 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 6/18/2013 10:25 PM PT, David Empson typed:
>
>> For recent Mac models with Mini DisplayPort, Apple never made an adapter
>> to produce composite or S-Video (or component, for that matter). As far
>> as I can tell, Mini DisplayPort (or the GPUs Apple used) do not support
>> TV-compatible video output. You would need an external frame
>> buffer/converter box of some kind.
>
> Hmm, any suggestions from BestBuy.com, Fry's Electronics (frys.com),
> RadioShack.com, etc.? My searches are not getting good results, or they
> really don't exist.
>
>
>> For earlier models with DVI (e.g. the Early 2008 MacBook Pro), Apple did
>> sell an adapter called the "DVI to Video adapter" (M9267G) which
>> produced Composite and S-Video output. The Apple Store is no longer
>> offering any of the DVI adapters, so you would have to search elsewhere
>> to find old stock.
>
> I found
> http://www.amazon.com/APPLE-M9267G-DVI-Video-Adapter/dp/B0000ACOBL/ for
> $39.00 (new and with seven in stock). I am trying to find non-Apple
> third party adapters, but I am having no lucks on the web sites that I
> mentioned above.

Got USB

http://www.startech.com/AV/Converters/Video/S-Video-Composite-to-USB-Video-Capture-Cable-TWAIN-Mac-Support~SVID2USB23

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815306034&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Video+Devices+%26+TV+Tuners-_-N82E16815306034&gclid=CMPZutD-_bcCFc-f4AodK3UA0w

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Ant

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Jun 25, 2013, 9:27:38 PM6/25/13
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> Got USB

Interesting.


> http://www.startech.com/AV/Converters/Video/S-Video-Composite-to-USB-Video-Capture-Cable-TWAIN-Mac-Support~SVID2USB23

Ooh, Windows too.


> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815306034&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Video+Devices+%26+TV+Tuners-_-N82E16815306034&gclid=CMPZutD-_bcCFc-f4AodK3UA0w

Only Mac and the StarTech can do both Windows and Mac.

Thanks.
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YK

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Jun 25, 2013, 10:02:09 PM6/25/13
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These are but a few examples:

Here's my favorite.

YK

Ant

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Jun 26, 2013, 4:01:07 PM6/26/13
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In comp.sys.mac.hardware.video YK <xx...@dialme.com> wrote:
...
> > Thanks.

> These are but a few examples:

> Here's my favorite.

Um, did I miss something in this reply? I hope it wasn't an image since
I am using a text based newsreader (Tin). :)

YK

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Jun 26, 2013, 4:46:27 PM6/26/13
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On 6/26/13 4:01 PM, Ant wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.video YK <xx...@dialme.com> wrote:
> ...
>>> Thanks.
>
>> These are but a few examples:
>
>> Here's my favorite.
>
> Um, did I miss something in this reply? I hope it wasn't an image since
> I am using a text based newsreader (Tin). :)
>

Sorry, forgot to paste this in. Brain cramp.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU2DVIA/

Ant

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Jun 26, 2013, 8:18:34 PM6/26/13
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> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU2DVIA/

"USB 2.0 to DVI / HDMI / VGA". No to S-Video or Composites on old TVs?
Wrong link or did I miss it?
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