Hypercard and SheepShaver
Sylvain Bouju
environement, and wanting to share about (eventual)
little or big problems?
For me, one problem in my stacks is that I no longer
have any custom or standard cursors excepted the arrow...
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
It works fine for me. Are you sure the resource fork was copied over
when you copied your stack to the SheepShaver disk?
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Sylvain Bouju
> ... Are you sure the resource fork was copied over
> when you copied your stack to the SheepShaver disk?
Yes, with my custom cursors, icons, XFCNs XCMDs
and other additional ressources...
But I cannot see any other cursor than the arrow,
built-in cursors included: Ibeam, hand, busy, watch,
cross, etc.
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
There is no major difference between e.g. hand and your own custom
cursors. They work the same way. I am quite sure that SheepShaver isn't
the problem.
How did you check that the resource fork is copied over correctly?
How are you checking the availability of the cursors in HyperCard?
Sylvain Bouju
> How did you check that the resource fork is copied over correctly?
Inside Sheepshaver, with Resedit, I can inspect all the
ressources available in System, Hypercard and stacks files.
> How are you checking the availability of the cursors in HyperCard?
I have some scripts in some stacks working fine with my
iBook G3, using "set cursor to cross", "set cursor to busy", etc.
The same stacks and scripts inside Seepshaver work fine too,
but the cursor always stays with the arrow shape.
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
Which version of SheepShaver are you using? I am using version 2.3 for
Mac Intel. Also, I am using HyperCard 2.4.1 and system 8.6.
I have tried several SheepShaver configurations, changing the prefs, but
nothing caused a problem with the cursor.
Perhaps you could to a test with a new stack and if you encounter the
same problems, you could send that test stack to me.
Sylvain Bouju
> Which version of SheepShaver are you using? I am using version 2.3 for
> Mac Intel. Also, I am using HyperCard 2.4.1 and system 8.6.
The freshest 2.3 Sheepshaver for MacIntel and HC 2.4.1 too.
I use a Mac OS 9.0.4 with them.
> Perhaps you could to a test with a new stack and if you encounter the
> same problems, you could send that test stack to me.
Yes, I have test that this morning with a fresh special standalone
stack, and I have the same behaviour: OK on my iBook G3 under
Classic, and the "cursor problem" under Sheepshaver.
hers is the stack:
http://sylvain.bouju.googlepages.com/cursors.zip
I add here that all the wanted cursors stand in the System
ressources, of course...
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
> http://sylvain.bouju.googlepages.com/cursors.zip
Hi Sylvain,
I have tested the standalone and it works fine. I can see all HyperCard
cursors.
Aren't you using any custom cursors? Those were not included in the
standalone.
Sylvain Bouju
> Aren't you using any custom cursors? Those were not included in the
> standalone.
No, I don't use cusom cursors (I was wong in my first msg).
So, no cursor in the standalone was normal.
All cursors I (want to) use are Mac OS System cursors.
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
> Mark <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
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>
> No, I don't use cusom cursors (I was wong in my first msg).
> So, no cursor in the standalone was normal.
>
> All cursors I (want to) use are Mac OS System cursors.
For now, I would conclude that it is a PPC-specific problem connected to
SheepShaver.
On Mac PPC, you could also install Basilisk. Perhaps, it will solve the
problem, if it is worth the hassle.
To test whether there is a PPC-specific problem, I decided to install
HyperCard on SheepShaver for PPC on my old PowerMac G3. Surprisingly, I
am unable to start HyperCard on that Mac. Each time when I start the
HyperCard application, SheepShaver freezes with a spinning beachball of
death.
Maybe you are lucky to be able to run HC on SheepShaver for PPC and you
should accept this cursor problem as a minor inconvenience.
I still wonder why you don't simply install Mac OS 9 on your iBook and
run HyperCard in the Classic environment...?
Sylvain Bouju
> Maybe you are lucky to be able to run HC on SheepShaver for PPC and you
> should accept this cursor problem as a minor inconvenience.
Yes, I accept it as a minor problem, regarding the big advantage
to have only one computer (my current MacBook) in place of three,
a recent Macintosh for fun, an older one for a professional software
under Hypercard, and a PC for another Windows only professional
program (I currently use this one with no problem on my MacBook
under a Vmware Fusion + W2K Pro environment)
> I still wonder why you don't simply install Mac OS 9 on your iBook and
> run HyperCard in the Classic environment...?
I did that, since 2004, but now, the iBook have some hardware
problems (screen backlight). And I really enjoy to have only one
computer to do everything I need, even with more or less minor
inconveniences.
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
You didn't tell me that you're using a MacBook now. If you are using HC
2.4.1 in combination with the latest SheepSaver version, like me, then
the system version is the only difference. Maybe you should try to
install a different system or a fresh system. I am using 8.5 on my
MacBook (thought it was 8.6, but that's on another machine) and HC 2.4.1
works fine.
Sylvain Bouju
> You didn't tell me that you're using a MacBook now...
Sorry to have ommit this only good reason to use Sheepshaver;-)
> If you are using HC
> 2.4.1 in combination with the latest SheepSaver version, like me, then
> the system version is the only difference. Maybe you should try to
> install a different system or a fresh system. I am using 8.5 on my
> MacBook (thought it was 8.6, but that's on another machine) and HC 2.4.1
> works fine.
Yes, I shall try to downgrade to a fresh 8.5 - 8.6 asap (I have
the green original CD), as well as a 8.1 too, which was very
stable, I remember.
Thank you for all,
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Sylvain Bouju
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
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> Yes, I shall try to downgrade to a fresh 8.5 - 8.6 asap (I have
> the green original CD), as well as a 8.1 too, which was very
> stable, I remember.
>
> Thank you for all,
OK. Please,let me know how it works out.
Sylvain Bouju
> OK. Please,let me know how it works out.
Just tested with a fresh and clean Mac OS 8.6 installation,
but with exactly the same cursor problem...
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Sylvain Bouju
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
> Mark <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
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> > OK. Please,let me know how it works out.
>
> Just tested with a fresh and clean Mac OS 8.6 installation,
> but with exactly the same cursor problem...
I start to get a feeling that we're not going to solve this, but did you
also try a fresh HyperCard 2.4.1 installation? :-)
Sylvain Bouju
> ... but did you
> also try a fresh HyperCard 2.4.1 installation? :-)
No, because my "Hypercard installations" are
very simple and effective: the application only!
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Sylvain Bouju
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Mark
syl_vain@bou_ju.net (Sylvain Bouju) wrote:
Well, maybe you need to install a fresh copy of the application.