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John Kruper

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Nov 8, 1990, 12:13:42 PM11/8/90
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I just received a MacIIfx (w/ 4MB Apple RAM, 80MB Apple drive, Apple's
8-24 video card, and Apple's 13in color monitor) and am experiencing
difficulties:
-if, using Monitors in the control panel, I switch to "millions of
colors," I lose all hilighting ability (i.e., no shading, etc.). When I
switch to 256 colors, all seems to be well.
-the machine randomly hangs on me while inside various applications
(i.e., is none-responsive to mouse clicks, command keys, etc.), forcing me
to reboot the machine.
-applications "unexpectedly quit" under what seems to me completely
unsystematic circumstances. I am often given an error ID of "3".

Do these problems sound like hardware problems?? -- system software??
(I've rebuilt the system using locked master discs a number of times now.)

One further piece of history --- on initially setting up the machine, the
internal hard drive was sent unformatted. After using Apple's HD utiltiy
to format the drive, then installing the system software, the machine
would not boot off of the internal drive. A trip back to the dealer
resulted in a new internal drive. Could this have been a related sympton
of the problems I am now experiencing??

I would appreciate any pointers, helpful hints, insights, etc.

Feel free to post to the newsgroup, but I'd appreciate direct E-mail at:

jk...@quads.uchicago.edu


Thanks much!

John Kruper

Michael Peirce

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Nov 9, 1990, 11:07:01 AM11/9/90
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In article <1990Nov8.1...@midway.uchicago.edu>, jk...@quads.uchicago.edu (John Kruper) writes:
>
> I just received a MacIIfx (w/ 4MB Apple RAM, 80MB Apple drive, Apple's
> 8-24 video card, and Apple's 13in color monitor) and am experiencing
> difficulties:
> -if, using Monitors in the control panel, I switch to "millions of
> colors," I lose all hilighting ability (i.e., no shading, etc.). When I
> switch to 256 colors, all seems to be well.
> -the machine randomly hangs on me while inside various applications
> (i.e., is none-responsive to mouse clicks, command keys, etc.), forcing me
> to reboot the machine.
> -applications "unexpectedly quit" under what seems to me completely
> unsystematic circumstances. I am often given an error ID of "3".
>
> Do these problems sound like hardware problems?? -- system software??
> (I've rebuilt the system using locked master discs a number of times now.)

I'm not sure this is related, but I was having somewhat similar problems
with a new fx I had. It booted up OK, but after a short while bad things
began to happen.

I tried everything I could think of, video card swaps, new disks, reseating
the SIMMs, etc.

Finally someone asked me if it had NEC SIMMs inside. I looked and
it had 4M of NEC and 4M of Hitachi SIMMs. They advised me to switch
the two banks of SIMMs. I did this and the fx has worked like a charm
ever since!

You only have 4M of memory, but check it they are NEC chips. If they
are, try to dig up some non NEC chips to try in your machine...

-- michael

P.S. I know this sounds crazy, but it worked. Are the NEC chips
slightly out of spec?


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Allen J Michielsen

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Nov 10, 1990, 11:55:18 PM11/10/90
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In article <1990Nov8.1...@midway.uchicago.edu> jk...@quads.uchicago.edu

>I just received a MacIIfx (w/ 4MB Apple RAM, 80MB Apple drive, Apple's
>8-24 video card, and Apple's 13in color monitor) and am experiencing
>difficulties:

I just received 3, IIFx's w/8 Mb Ram (4 apple, 4 Mine), 200 MB Maxtor,
and the 'NU' enhanced, standard color card & apple display, using the Fx
shipped 6.0.5 (?) system right out of the box in a vanilla configuration.
Besides the applications that won't work, requiring upgrades due to hardware
or (usually) system incompatability problems, the system does like to
mysteriously just crash. It is intensly sensative on the scsi port.
Even trying to open or insert old disks crashes the system. Then, when
trying to close a window that has been moved so it extends partially off
the display can/does cause spontaneously crash & burns. The same is especially
true as the number of open windows increases.
When it runs, it's great, but the speed increase is more than negated by the
much increased crash & burns over, say a IIcx. Boy am I a happy camper...
One of them has even had the power supply fry when the dealer installed the
video card, and another was shipped with a defective mouse.
Guess apple is too busy making new products and system versions to actually
get what they are doing right the first time.
al


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