Time Machine compatible with a NAS via AFP?
Tone
over the network. Apple support says TM will work with any USB drive
or a time capsule, and also a network share that supports AFP. If
this model NAS supports the AFP, does that count?
nospam
<44857eaf-52f2-4da7...@x16g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
Tone <tonyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
it does not count.
there is a way to override it but it's unsupported and you may end up
with an unreliable backup.
Tone
> In article
> <44857eaf-52f2-4da7-9e47-699298169...@x16g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Tone <tonypags...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I want to buy the WD 1TB NAS (WDH1NC10000N) for use with time machine
> > over the network. Apple support says TM will work with any USB drive
> > or a time capsule, and also a network share that supports AFP. If
> > this model NAS supports the AFP, does that count?
>
> it does not count.
>
> there is a way to override it but it's unsupported and you may end up
> with an unreliable backup.
Yes, I'm aware of the override. I may just keep using Carbon Copy
Cloner. Thanks for your input!
If anyone else has this NAS model working with a Mac as a backup (TM
or whatever)... show some love :)
tags: time machine, imac, macbook, wd, western digital, AFP, network,
storage, drive, hard, hdd,
David Empson
> I want to buy the WD 1TB NAS (WDH1NC10000N) for use with time machine
> over the network. Apple support says TM will work with any USB drive
> or a time capsule, and also a network share that supports AFP.
nospam has already answered the question, but to clarify one point, that
isn't what Apple says.
Time Machine officially requires a locally-connected hard drive (not
just USB), or a Time Capsule, or a network share using AFP from a
computer running Mac OS X 10.5 or later (which can be the client or
server edition of Mac OS X.)
Other AFP servers are not supported, but can be used with a workaround
(turning on a hidden preference to allow the use of unsupported
servers).
Personally, I wouldn't want to trust my backups to an unsupported
mechanism.
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David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz
nospam
<dem...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> Personally, I wouldn't want to trust my backups to an unsupported
> mechanism.
nor would i, since the supported ones don't work so well.
Kevin McMurtrie
dem...@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
But a Time Capsule is no bigger than 2TB. That's tiny for users who
produce music, photographs, or video as a hobby. Other brands of
consumer NAS can have 10 TB or more. There are also suspicions that
Apple is once again suffering from electrolytic capacitor failures.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/15139.html
"If your backup disk is on a network, the network server must use Apple
File Protocol (AFP) file sharing, and both your computer, and the
networked backup disk, should have Mac OS X 10.5.6 or later."
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nospam
<mcmu...@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
> > Personally, I wouldn't want to trust my backups to an unsupported
> > mechanism.
>
> But a Time Capsule is no bigger than 2TB. That's tiny for users who
> produce music, photographs, or video as a hobby. Other brands of
> consumer NAS can have 10 TB or more.
so put 10 tb of storage on a mac mini running leopard or snow leopard.
instant 'time capsule' and that *is* supported.
David Empson
> In article <1j9j822.f9geal1ba064bN%dem...@actrix.gen.nz>,
> dem...@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
>
> > Tone <tonyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I want to buy the WD 1TB NAS (WDH1NC10000N) for use with time machine
> > > over the network. Apple support says TM will work with any USB drive
> > > or a time capsule, and also a network share that supports AFP.
> >
> > nospam has already answered the question, but to clarify one point, that
> > isn't what Apple says.
> >
> > Time Machine officially requires a locally-connected hard drive (not
> > just USB), or a Time Capsule, or a network share using AFP from a
> > computer running Mac OS X 10.5 or later (which can be the client or
> > server edition of Mac OS X.)
> >
> > Other AFP servers are not supported, but can be used with a workaround
> > (turning on a hidden preference to allow the use of unsupported
> > servers).
> >
> > Personally, I wouldn't want to trust my backups to an unsupported
> > mechanism.
>
> But a Time Capsule is no bigger than 2TB. That's tiny for users who
> produce music, photographs, or video as a hobby.
And given the evidence of failing Time Capsules, I wouldn't trust that
either (though it appears to be a power supply failure, not a drive
failure).
A Mac running 10.5 or later acting as a file server with a locally
connected hard drive is the best Time Machine backup destination if you
want to back up vast amounts of data.
> Other brands of consumer NAS can have 10 TB or more. There are also
> suspicions that Apple is once again suffering from electrolytic capacitor
> failures.
>
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/15139.html
>
> "If your backup disk is on a network, the network server must use Apple
> File Protocol (AFP) file sharing, and both your computer, and the
> networked backup disk, should have Mac OS X 10.5.6 or later."
Apple have reworded it to suggest using Mac OS X 10.5.6 or later, due to
bug fixes in that version, but they seem to have lost the addtional
requirement (which is still there, just not properly documented any
more) that an AFP server running Mac OS X must be 10.5 or later in order
to be a support Time Machine backup destination.
To be supported, third party AFP servers have to implement the same
version of AFP as Mac OS X 10.5, with whatever features Apple added in
10.5 which allow the use of Time Machine over AFP. At a minimum, the
server must advertise which shared volumes are suitable for Time Machine
backups.
(10.5 client does this automatically for all shares of suitable file
systems; it is configurable in 10.5 Server.)
Older AFP servers (e.g. Mac OS X 10.4.11 or earlier) are not supported
by Time Machine.
(I just tried it to confirm.)
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David Empson
dem...@actrix.gen.nz