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Justin

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Aug 7, 2012, 12:44:19 AM8/7/12
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So I bought an external Memorex 98861 BD drive to be used on my Macs.
USB2 as usual and it works very well.
I can use the Finder to burn BDs, both SL (25GB) and DL (50GB) with no
problem. However, normally I use Burn (from Sourceforge) to burn the
discs to pure ISO-966o or Joliet, rather than potentially have a problem
reading that HFS/PC hybrid format on another platform.
It certainly isn't fast and I wish there was another cost effective
solution for backing up huge amounts of data.

Salvatore

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Aug 7, 2012, 6:38:11 AM8/7/12
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On 2012-08-07, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> I can use the Finder to burn BDs, both SL (25GB) and DL (50GB) with no
> problem. However, normally I use Burn (from Sourceforge) to burn the
> discs to pure ISO-966o or Joliet, rather than potentially have a problem
> reading that HFS/PC hybrid format on another platform.
You can't create a new blank image in ISO format? I think this is how you
do it in Disk Utility:

1. Create a new blank image.
2. For "Size", choose "Custom" and specify the capacity of the BD-R disk.
3. For "Format", choose "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)".
4. For "Partitions", choose "Single partition - CD/DVD".
5. For "Image Format", choose "DVD/CD master".

> It certainly isn't fast and I wish there was another cost effective
> solution for backing up huge amounts of data.
Quick question: how long does it take to burn a 25 GB disk?

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Justin

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Aug 7, 2012, 8:13:14 PM8/7/12
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On 8/7/12 6:38 AM, Salvatore wrote:
> On 2012-08-07, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>> I can use the Finder to burn BDs, both SL (25GB) and DL (50GB) with no
>> problem. However, normally I use Burn (from Sourceforge) to burn the
>> discs to pure ISO-966o or Joliet, rather than potentially have a problem
>> reading that HFS/PC hybrid format on another platform.
> You can't create a new blank image in ISO format? I think this is how you
> do it in Disk Utility:
>
> 1. Create a new blank image.
> 2. For "Size", choose "Custom" and specify the capacity of the BD-R disk.
> 3. For "Format", choose "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)".
> 4. For "Partitions", choose "Single partition - CD/DVD".
> 5. For "Image Format", choose "DVD/CD master".


hi Sal (fellow Italian?) ;)

I know how to make an ISO image, either via the Disk Utility or the dd
command at the terminal.

>
>> It certainly isn't fast and I wish there was another cost effective
>> solution for backing up huge amounts of data.
> Quick question: how long does it take to burn a 25 GB disk?
>

That's a good question. Usually once it started burning I got up and
left. I watched TV or did some homework (Corporate Finance is a bitch).
When I came back it was finished and had already spit out the disc.


Salvatore

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Aug 7, 2012, 11:29:35 PM8/7/12
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On 2012-08-07, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> hi Sal (fellow Italian?) ;)

You'd have to go a few generations back, but yeah.

> I know how to make an ISO image, either via the Disk Utility or the dd
> command at the terminal.

I'd stick with Disk Utility, but that shouldn't matter.

> That's a good question. Usually once it started burning I got up and
> left. I watched TV or did some homework (Corporate Finance is a bitch).
> When I came back it was finished and had already spit out the disc.

Off the top of my head, I'm guessing it takes at least 7 minutes to burn
a standard 25GB BD-R.

What you *could* do is get a FireWire version of an external Blu-Ray
drive. Apple makes a Thunderbolt connector that accepts a FireWire 800
cable, and most (if not all) FireWire drives should come with a FireWire
400 - 800 adapter. It would be a shame to have to buy all that new
equipment, though.

As for speed: you're pretty much topped out unless you buy an external
SSD that connects via the Thunderbolt interface.

Justin

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Aug 8, 2012, 1:23:11 AM8/8/12
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On 8/7/12 11:29 PM, Salvatore wrote:
> On 2012-08-07, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>> hi Sal (fellow Italian?) ;)
>
> You'd have to go a few generations back, but yeah.
>
>> I know how to make an ISO image, either via the Disk Utility or the dd
>> command at the terminal.
>
> I'd stick with Disk Utility, but that shouldn't matter.

Usually so do I. Or I use Burn.app

>
>> That's a good question. Usually once it started burning I got up and
>> left. I watched TV or did some homework (Corporate Finance is a bitch).
>> When I came back it was finished and had already spit out the disc.
>
> Off the top of my head, I'm guessing it takes at least 7 minutes to burn
> a standard 25GB BD-R.

That sounds about right. However, cost was a concern and I bought a
slower drive.

>
> What you *could* do is get a FireWire version of an external Blu-Ray
> drive. Apple makes a Thunderbolt connector that accepts a FireWire 800
> cable, and most (if not all) FireWire drives should come with a FireWire
> 400 - 800 adapter. It would be a shame to have to buy all that new
> equipment, though.
>
> As for speed: you're pretty much topped out unless you buy an external
> SSD that connects via the Thunderbolt interface.
>

The drive doing the writing is the bottleneck. A faster interface
wouldn't make a difference, unless (like you said) I had an external SSD.
Do they even make Firewire enclosures for external optical discs?

nospam

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Aug 8, 2012, 1:49:29 AM8/8/12
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In article <jvst41$bh6$1...@dont-email.me>, Justin
<jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:

> Do they even make Firewire enclosures for external optical discs?

of course they make firewire enclosures for optical drives. they have
for a couple of decades. why wouldn't they?

Justin

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Aug 8, 2012, 1:56:15 AM8/8/12
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I wouldn't think it would be worth it. Cool, I like Firewire better
than USB anyway.

Salvatore

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Aug 8, 2012, 9:26:29 AM8/8/12
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On 2012-08-08, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> I wouldn't think it would be worth it. Cool, I like Firewire better
> than USB anyway.

Patience is a virtue... to your wallet.

If somebody comes out with a Thunderbolt version of a Blu-Ray burner,
though, I'll be first in line to buy it.

Justin

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Aug 9, 2012, 2:43:05 AM8/9/12
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On 8/8/12 9:26 AM, Salvatore wrote:
> On 2012-08-08, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
>> I wouldn't think it would be worth it. Cool, I like Firewire better
>> than USB anyway.
>
> Patience is a virtue... to your wallet.
>
> If somebody comes out with a Thunderbolt version of a Blu-Ray burner,
> though, I'll be first in line to buy it.
>

Do you really think it would be worth the premium? It won't be any faster.
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