Moving to apartment with wi-fi

[Howard Brazee]

I just moved to senior living that only connects to the Internet via
its own Wi-Fi system. I connected both my Mac and my wife's to it
with no problem (it is slower than my old system).

In my old system, our printers were connected via cat-5 cable. We
can't connect her printer to the room with the printer, but one
printer (the Kodak ESP 7250) has a Wi-Fi option.

I also have a Blu-Ray player that used to be connected via Cat-5
cable, but now can't be reached without drilling a hole in our rented
wall. They said our Wii would have problems connected, but we just
moved in yesterday and looking at it is low on my priority list.

I have an Air Port Express that used to be connected to Cat-5 to
extend my local Wi-Fi and to connect to my living room stereo.

My Kodak thinks it is connected to the Wi-Fi (I printed the Network
Configuration), which may mean that anybody here can use it (not
optimal), except testing with our Macs don't find it.

I tried adding duplicate printers, but they didn't connect either.

I'm looking for any advice on how to set up our local devices.

Thank-you in advance

[Christoph Gartmann]

In article <lj15k8pokhr72pa34...@4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> writes:

>I just moved to senior living that only connects to the Internet via
>its own Wi-Fi system. I connected both my Mac and my wife's to it
>with no problem (it is slower than my old system).

No wonder, WiFi speed decreases exponentially with the distance to the access
point.

>In my old system, our printers were connected via cat-5 cable. We
>can't connect her printer to the room with the printer, but one
>printer (the Kodak ESP 7250) has a Wi-Fi option.
>
>I also have a Blu-Ray player that used to be connected via Cat-5
>cable, but now can't be reached without drilling a hole in our rented
>wall. They said our Wii would have problems connected, but we just
>moved in yesterday and looking at it is low on my priority list.

I suggest a WLAN-Router (without DSL). This will connect to the WiFi and offer
RJ45-Ports for your other devices.

>I have an Air Port Express that used to be connected to Cat-5 to
>extend my local Wi-Fi and to connect to my living room stereo.

Try to connect this one to the WiFi (not sure if it is possible). Connect
the Mac via cable to the Airport and see, whether the Mac has Internet.
If so, buy a small switch, connect the switch to the airport an your devices to
the switch.

Regards,
Christoph Gartmann

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[Howard Brazee]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:16:16 +0000 (UTC),
gart...@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) wrote:

>>I also have a Blu-Ray player that used to be connected via Cat-5
>>cable, but now can't be reached without drilling a hole in our rented
>>wall. They said our Wii would have problems connected, but we just
>>moved in yesterday and looking at it is low on my priority list.
>
>I suggest a WLAN-Router (without DSL). This will connect to the WiFi and offer
>RJ45-Ports for your other devices.
>
>>I have an Air Port Express that used to be connected to Cat-5 to
>>extend my local Wi-Fi and to connect to my living room stereo.
>
>Try to connect this one to the WiFi (not sure if it is possible). Connect
>the Mac via cable to the Airport and see, whether the Mac has Internet.
>If so, buy a small switch, connect the switch to the airport an your devices to
>the switch.

I also have a wireless Netgear router.

It would be nice if I could hook this up or my Air Port Express to the
Wi-Fi. Or even if I could hook one up to my Mac to make its own
repeater to the other in the other room.

But it isn't obvious to me how to find out if it is possible. I'll
play with it this evening (I will be with my wife at the hospital all
day as her mother is being treated). I will check this thread first
to see if someone has some further advice on how to determine if they
will work.

Thanks.

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[Jolly Roger]

In article <lj15k8pokhr72pa34...@4ax.com>,

Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> I just moved to senior living that only connects to the Internet via
> its own Wi-Fi system. I connected both my Mac and my wife's to it
> with no problem (it is slower than my old system).

No doubt. It's shared among lots of tenants, right? Kinda like a crappy
hotel connection... : ) Is there at least an option to get your own
personal internet service? Hope so, for your sake!

> In my old system, our printers were connected via cat-5 cable. We
> can't connect her printer to the room with the printer, but one
> printer (the Kodak ESP 7250) has a Wi-Fi option.
>
> I also have a Blu-Ray player that used to be connected via Cat-5
> cable, but now can't be reached without drilling a hole in our rented
> wall. They said our Wii would have problems connected, but we just
> moved in yesterday and looking at it is low on my priority list.
>
> I have an Air Port Express that used to be connected to Cat-5 to
> extend my local Wi-Fi and to connect to my living room stereo.

You could also use the Airport Express to connect that old Ethernet
printer you mentioned to the network.

> My Kodak thinks it is connected to the Wi-Fi (I printed the Network
> Configuration), which may mean that anybody here can use it (not
> optimal), except testing with our Macs don't find it.

I bet you don't have it configured correctly for that wireless network.
Check the network settings of the printer.

> I tried adding duplicate printers, but they didn't connect either.
>
> I'm looking for any advice on how to set up our local devices.
>
> Thank-you in advance

Seems like you'l need to read the Kodak ESP 7250 documentation to figure
out how to configure its network settings.

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[Jolly Roger]

In article <sm46k8tomjv3v3g5h...@4ax.com>,

To configure the Airport Express, you connect it with an Ethernet cable
to your Mac and run Airport Utility on the Mac. Through Airport Utility,
you can configure the Airport Express network settings to connect to
your wireless network.

[Howard Brazee]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:01:33 -0700, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com>
wrote:

>In article <lj15k8pokhr72pa34...@4ax.com>,
> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>
>> I just moved to senior living that only connects to the Internet via
>> its own Wi-Fi system. I connected both my Mac and my wife's to it
>> with no problem (it is slower than my old system).
>
>No doubt. It's shared among lots of tenants, right? Kinda like a crappy
>hotel connection... : ) Is there at least an option to get your own
>personal internet service? Hope so, for your sake!

I was hoping so too, but it doesn't appear to be an option.

>> In my old system, our printers were connected via cat-5 cable. We
>> can't connect her printer to the room with the printer, but one
>> printer (the Kodak ESP 7250) has a Wi-Fi option.
>>
>> I also have a Blu-Ray player that used to be connected via Cat-5
>> cable, but now can't be reached without drilling a hole in our rented
>> wall. They said our Wii would have problems connected, but we just
>> moved in yesterday and looking at it is low on my priority list.
>>
>> I have an Air Port Express that used to be connected to Cat-5 to
>> extend my local Wi-Fi and to connect to my living room stereo.
>
>You could also use the Airport Express to connect that old Ethernet
>printer you mentioned to the network.
>
>> My Kodak thinks it is connected to the Wi-Fi (I printed the Network
>> Configuration), which may mean that anybody here can use it (not
>> optimal), except testing with our Macs don't find it.
>
>I bet you don't have it configured correctly for that wireless network.
>Check the network settings of the printer.
>
>> I tried adding duplicate printers, but they didn't connect either.
>>
>> I'm looking for any advice on how to set up our local devices.
>>
>> Thank-you in advance
>
>Seems like you'l need to read the Kodak ESP 7250 documentation to figure
>out how to configure its network settings.

After turning it on, I printed out the network configuration, which
says it is connected, and includes IP address and network subnet.

I infer that anybody on the network should have access to my printer.
I suppose that's not a real problem, but I don't care for it.

[Jolly Roger]

In article <9ng6k8hd6ojql81b4...@4ax.com>,

What's the IP address?

If it's in the private network IP address space
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network>, then it's a valid IP
address.

If it starts with 169.254, it is an invalid link-local IP address, and
your printer will not be able to communicate with the network.
Typically, this is due incorrect configuration (of your printer in this
case).

> I infer that anybody on the network should have access to my printer.
> I suppose that's not a real problem, but I don't care for it.

If it's truly on the network, sure.

If the IP address is in the valid private network address space, you
should be able to open a terminal window on a computer connected to the
same network and run the ping command to ping that IP address.

[Howard Brazee]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:22:57 -0700, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com>
wrote:

>> After turning it on, I printed out the network configuration, which
>> says it is connected, and includes IP address and network subnet.
>
>What's the IP address?
>
>If it's in the private network IP address space
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network>, then it's a valid IP
>address.
>
>If it starts with 169.254, it is an invalid link-local IP address, and
>your printer will not be able to communicate with the network.
>Typically, this is due incorrect configuration (of your printer in this
>case).

It was 192.168.1.128, dynamic 255.255.255.0

>
>> I infer that anybody on the network should have access to my printer.
>> I suppose that's not a real problem, but I don't care for it.
>
>If it's truly on the network, sure.
>
>If the IP address is in the valid private network address space, you
>should be able to open a terminal window on a computer connected to the
>same network and run the ping command to ping that IP address.

I have some more information, but will create a new post for it.

[Howard Brazee]

I plugged my Air Port Express into my Mac.

I then had my printer connect to "Howard Brazee's Network" instead of
Affinity (the name of my community).

I opened up keychain, entered "Airport", and found 3 instances of
"Howard Brazee's Network", two instances of "Netgear", and one
instance of "Howard Brazee's Airport Express".

My first attempt typed in the Airport Express password - the printer
told me it was not a valid address. That was dumb of me.

All 3 Keychain passwords of "Howard Brazee's Network" had the same
password. I entered that in my printer, waited a while and was told
that it was unable to connect to that network.

I went to the other room and tested my WII (which had been connected
to my network at the other house), and it doesn't see the network.

I rebooted my computer and noticed after it rebooted that iTunes did
not see my phone nor pad. My computer, my pad, & my phone all showed
that they were connected to "Howard Brazee's Network". Obviously it
doesn't do any good for my computer to be connected to itself. I
changed it back and experimented with my iPad. It sees the network
when connected to "Affinity", but iTunes doesn't see it unless it's
plugged directly into my computer.

Airport utility sees a wireless client with a 169.254.2.150 IP
address. I expect that is the Kodak printer not succeeding at a
WPA2-AES setting. Printing the current Network Configuration shows
no IP address.

So either I will have to find a way to use the Affinity LAN for my
printer, or make sure my other devices don't switch to the strongest
signal in my apartment.

I just unplugged my Air Port Express for now.

[Howard Brazee]

I gave up, moved everything back to use the Affinity Wi-Fi. Nothing
worked. A couple of hours later, my iPad and iPhone were visible on
my iTunes, so I tried printing again - both computers printed. Nothing
had changed. The Wii isn't connecting, but my grandchildren have
their own Wii consoles, so that isn't important.

I wonder if it may be a matter of picking up a different repeater. And
if so, whether I might have problems in the future.

[nospam]

In article <esf7k8tok189dbqj8...@4ax.com>, Howard Brazee

<how...@brazee.net> wrote:

> I gave up, moved everything back to use the Affinity Wi-Fi. Nothing
> worked. A couple of hours later, my iPad and iPhone were visible on
> my iTunes, so I tried printing again - both computers printed. Nothing
> had changed. The Wii isn't connecting, but my grandchildren have
> their own Wii consoles, so that isn't important.
>
> I wonder if it may be a matter of picking up a different repeater. And
> if so, whether I might have problems in the future.

what exactly do you want to do?

you already have a wireless network provided by the community.

do you want your own private wireless network that links to theirs?
do you want a wireless repeater because their signal is too weak?
do you want a wired network in your apartment?
maybe something else?

depending on your answers, an airport might be the wrong device (and
probably is from what i can tell so far).

[Barry OGrady]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:49:29 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:

I like Apple computers but not the way Apple screws people around.

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