Finally I have a gripe with Canvas 6
Ernie Leimkuhler
It does about everything I need to do and does it elegantly and quickly.
It has wonderful tools a great customizable toolbar and the best Bezier
tools in the business.
But...
I finally had a need for some clipart, so I popped in one of the 3
included Clipart CD's and was affronted with the ugliest, stupidest and
most useless bunch of clipart I have ever seen.
I mean this collection looks like something from Printshop Dleuxe.
You know, the stuff that belongs on church bake sale flyers, or memos
produced in clarisworks.
The only useful bits are the OSHA hazard signs and the Technical symbols.
The rest is a bunch of Kindergarten cartoons.
I mean couldn't Deneba have signed a license with someone who produces
quality stuff , like Direct Imgaination, Photo Essentials, Opera
Multimedia, Diamar, or PhotoDisc.
How about some of Wildside Press's woodcut engravings, Mountain High Maps
earth images, Artbeats textures, Visual Language's antique maps, or
Artville's hand painted textures.
Anything would have been better than 1.5 gigabytes of dreck.
And the only way to access any of it is the truly arcane Gallery tool,
because even though they fianlly sent me a nice book with pictures of all
the fonts and clipart, you can't use it to find anything.
Someone had the bright idea to use different names for the pictures in the
book than are on the actual clipart files, so you can't even use
Sherlock/FindFile to get them quicker.
The gallery tool is not expandable in width so everything is displayed in
a narrow collumn.
Kudo is a shareware directory application included on many clipart
collections, it works well, and quickly.
There are similar tools for Windows based machines.
Why did they have to re-invent the wheel.....Badly!
Just my 2 cents.
BTW The included Font Collection is fine.
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Custom Metal Fabrication
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Renton, Washington, US
Jeff Hayden
that putting together a decent image browzer would be paramount to competing
with Microsoft PowerPoint's large icon slide view mode as well as Office's
clip art browser.
Deneba's clip art is quite useless - but I sure like Canvas 6 otherwise.
BTW, I have lots of problems copying a large Canvas drawing and pasting it
into PowerPoint - my Mac usually chokes and says it's run out of memory (with
192 MB no less!). It doesn't work to save as pict with EPS as that also
causes Canvas to squawk that it's run out of memory. Any suggestions? I'm
waiting to see if the long promised upgrade will fix it.
Jeff
Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
> OK, I basicly love Canvas 6.
> It does about everything I need to do and does it elegantly and quickly.
> It has wonderful tools a great customizable toolbar and the best Bezier
> tools in the business.
>
> But...
>
> I finally had a need for some clipart, so I popped in one of the 3
> included Clipart CD's and was affronted with the ugliest, stupidest and
> most useless bunch of clipart I have ever seen.
> I mean this collection looks like something from Printshop Dleuxe.
> You know, the stuff that belongs on church bake sale flyers, or memos
> produced in clarisworks.
>
> --snip--
Ross Wylde-Browne
>
> BTW, I have lots of problems copying a large Canvas drawing and pasting it
> into PowerPoint - my Mac usually chokes and says it's run out of memory (with
> 192 MB no less!). It doesn't work to save as pict with EPS as that also
> causes Canvas to squawk that it's run out of memory. Any suggestions? I'm
> waiting to see if the long promised upgrade will fix it.
Yes, just link the files into PowerPoint rather than place the whole
file. It will keep your PowerPoint file size down also.
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Jeff G
of CV6 being unusable due to imminent hanging after
several minute's use?
I've tried installing thrice; custom, easy, easy w/ no
extensions loaded. Removed extensions, left extensions.
Rebuilt dektop. Zapped pram. Always hangs.
I sent this info to Deneba, adding that I'm perfectly
willing to blame my aging computer ('95 PowerWave
604/132). Haven't heard a peep out of them since.
I also said I was content sticking with CV5, as it
basically meets my needs. But now I'm getting jealous --
people actually saying nice things about Canvas (besides
me) is like a whole new world that I'm shut out of.
Whaaa...
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Jeff G
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Jeff Hayden
Ross Wylde-Browne wrote:
Ross,
Thanks for the suggestion. The link function does work.
However. . . .
I can't save some large pict files with EPS in the first place as Canvas 6
complains it hasn't enough memory. Also, I can't link a Canvas6 file to Word or
PowerPoint with OLE - I don't have the right graphics filter (so says Word). Do
you know where the proper filter might be obtained?
Jeff
PS: I'm still bugged that I can't just copy and paste.
Ernie Leimkuhler
Try booting Canvas 6 with the space bar down to disable some of the tools.
I disable : Colada, Quicktime, Quickdraw3D, all of the web tools, sounds,
slideshow, kodak CMS, and some of the stranger effects.
It makes Camvas 6 much zippier.
Ernie Leimkuhler
> Ha! So you agree! I particularly don't like the library gizmo. It would seem
> that putting together a decent image browzer would be paramount to competing
> with Microsoft PowerPoint's large icon slide view mode as well as Office's
> clip art browser.
>
> Deneba's clip art is quite useless - but I sure like Canvas 6 otherwise.
>
> BTW, I have lots of problems copying a large Canvas drawing and pasting it
> into PowerPoint - my Mac usually chokes and says it's run out of memory (with
> 192 MB no less!). It doesn't work to save as pict with EPS as that also
> causes Canvas to squawk that it's run out of memory. Any suggestions? I'm
> waiting to see if the long promised upgrade will fix it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
>
> > OK, I basicly love Canvas 6.
> > It does about everything I need to do and does it elegantly and quickly.
> > It has wonderful tools a great customizable toolbar and the best Bezier
> > tools in the business.
> >
> > But...
> >
> > I finally had a need for some clipart, so I popped in one of the 3
> > included Clipart CD's and was affronted with the ugliest, stupidest and
> > most useless bunch of clipart I have ever seen.
> > I mean this collection looks like something from Printshop Dleuxe.
> > You know, the stuff that belongs on church bake sale flyers, or memos
> > produced in clarisworks.
> >
> > --snip--
Simple solution...stop using powerpoint.
What an amazing example of Microsquish bloatware.
For the first time ever I had to load it on my machine to read a file from
a client.
I loaded it (without restarting), opened the file, exported all of the
drawings, quit, and wiped it off of my drive.
I was still partially hosed since even simple little drawing came out as
massive 20 mb pict images at 576 dpi.
Christ! ... I had to use GraphicConverter to rasterize them down to 150
dpi so I could even use them.
Jeff G
Thanks, done that too, forgot to mention it. In fact, if I
leave all the tools on with CV5, the preferences file
balloons to over 2mb, then certain crashing. Figuring the
same is true with CV6, tools were trimmed immediately.
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Jeff G
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Jeff Hayden
Ernie Leimkuhler wrote:
> Simple solution...stop using powerpoint.
> What an amazing example of Microsquish bloatware.
> For the first time ever I had to load it on my machine to read a file from
> a client.
> I loaded it (without restarting), opened the file, exported all of the
> drawings, quit, and wiped it off of my drive.
> I was still partially hosed since even simple little drawing came out as
> massive 20 mb pict images at 576 dpi.
> Christ! ... I had to use GraphicConverter to rasterize them down to 150
> dpi so I could even use them.
>
> --
> STAGESMITH PRODUCTIONS
> Custom Metal Fabrication
> ABANA AWS IATSE Local 15/488
> Renton, Washington, US
I know. Oh how I know dear PowerPoint! At least the '98 version uses the same
graphics tools as Word - that ain't saying much though. Microsoft applications
with graphics is an oxymoron. But, I'm trying to use my PowerBook in an NT
environment where the eis department will not buy real graphics programs for the
NT boxes - why do you engineers need graphics anyway? - you can do anything you
need in MS Office '97 and Visio. Aarrgh!
Tamian Wood
I am glad to hear the positive response to Canvas 6, and the negative too for that
matter. I'll pass all of your comments along.
Here is the quickest way to locate a clip art image:
In the text box at the bottom of the Art tab, type the full ID string of the clip
art image, and then press Enter. (Just as you would type in a key word)
Canvas locates the clip art file and displays a thumbnail image on the Art tab.
Jeff G,
The last message I found in my database from you is back on 3/12/99. The message was
sent to Jim and the final sentence reads "No need to reply -- I'm doing fine with
5.03..."
Jeff H, and anyone else who might need help,
If you are having trouble and can't get the answer here, be sure to contact our
Support Department with all the details (including your computer specs and Canvas
serial number) at sup...@deneba.com
Tamian
sup...@deneba.com
Richard R. Hardy
> Clip art aside for a moment, does anyone have a problem
> of CV6 being unusable due to imminent hanging after
> several minute's use?
>
> I've tried installing thrice; custom, easy, easy w/ no
> extensions loaded. Removed extensions, left extensions.
> Rebuilt dektop. Zapped pram. Always hangs.
>
> I sent this info to Deneba, adding that I'm perfectly
> willing to blame my aging computer ('95 PowerWave
> 604/132). Haven't heard a peep out of them since.
>
> I also said I was content sticking with CV5, as it
> basically meets my needs. But now I'm getting jealous --
> people actually saying nice things about Canvas (besides
> me) is like a whole new world that I'm shut out of.
>
I've had crashing problems with Canvas 6 and have isolated my problem to
having the status bar "hidden"; I have zero crashes with Canvas 6 if the
bar is visible and very reproducible and rapid crashes (Canvas quits on
clicking the close box for a file) with type 1 or type 2 errors. I got
E-Mail from Deneba support that states they are aware of a problem when
the status bar is hidden.
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Richard R. Hardy
Fox Chase Cancer Center
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Jeff G
> Jeff G,
>
> The last message I found in my database from you is back on 3/12/99. The message was
> sent to Jim and the final sentence reads "No need to reply -- I'm doing fine with
> 5.03..."
Oops, I guess I did say that. And I meant it at the
time! It's just that I've become jealous, seeing
everyone rave about v6, even people that hated v5.
You may recall, I was one of very few that actually
supported and defended v5 (most of the time).
I'll get over it -- just keep reminding myself that
I have no use (at this time) for all the doo-dads
that were added to make v6.
This is what I hate about upgrades: They never, never,
NEVER make the product leaner, meaner and more
efficient. They always get bigger, adding cupholders
and fins, and almost always wind up being slower and
more bewildering.
Still anxiously awaiting Canvas 5.04...
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Jeff G
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