Is Jane's Combat Simulations history?
John Slade
about upcoming sims. Their web site hasn't been updated in ages. What's
happening there? However it's good to see DID coming out with a new sim.
I thought they were dead and buried.
John
Alan Hauk
<hitm...@pacbell.net> wrote:
I recently heard that Jane's flight sims are no more. I don't think
that they ever did anything for the Mac, though, so not of tremendous
interest here. Their sims were basically the descendants of the old
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat and were not known for super realism. Good
graphics, though. They still have a strong following, and F-18 and
Longbow 2 were considered really good.
Alan
Dale
The obvious question is why a Mac froup would be using a web site that
is strictly PC?
Dale
Michael Emrys
alan...@gol.com wrote on 4/9/01 6:12 AM:
> In article <3AD15E2E...@pacbell.net>, John Slade
> <hitm...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> I go to Jane's Combat Simulations web site and don't see any news
>> about upcoming sims. Their web site hasn't been updated in ages. What's
>> happening there? However it's good to see DID coming out with a new sim.
>> I thought they were dead and buried.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>
> I recently heard that Jane's flight sims are no more. I don't think
> that they ever did anything for the Mac, though, so not of tremendous
> interest here. Their sims were basically the descendants of the old
> Chuck Yeager's Air Combat and were not known for super realism.
Hmm. As a Mac (exclusively) user, I never played any of them, but I followed
their progress avidly through the computer gaming press, and if what I read
there is any indication, a number of people would strongly disagree with
you. I think that for quite a while, Longbow and Longbow II were the gold
standard for flight sim realism. The campaign was one of the features that
was especially lauded.
> Good graphics, though.
World class in their day.
> They still have a strong following, and F-18 and Longbow 2 were considered
> really good.
They did put out a sim or two that received lukewarm receptions. I think
their A-10 sim might have fallen into that category. I think the problem was
that their A team of designers/developers were fired/resigned and their
replacements just weren't up to the same standard. Jane's then decided that
this wasn't a market that interested them enough to put the resources into
it on a sufficient scale to excel, so they threw in the towel.
Michael
Dale
"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> In article <mail-950669.1...@news.goodnet.com>, Dale
> <ma...@home.org> wrote:
>
> > The obvious question is why a Mac froup would be using a web site that
> > is strictly PC?
>
> Becos ve like to know vat ze ozzer zide is doink.
>
> Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer . . . .
>
> ;-)
>
>
> To defeat the Dark side, we must *understand* the Dark Side.
>
>
>
>
> I'll, er, get me coat, shall I?
I love that mexican accent, Yul Brynner as Pancho Villa isn't it?
Dale
Michael Emrys
rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 4/9/01 12:46 PM:
> To defeat the Dark side, we must *understand* the Dark Side.
Why, Richard! Wisdom? You???
> I'll, er, get me coat, shall I?
No, no. Stick around. I think we better keep an eye on you. At least until
the incubation period is passed.
Michael
Michael Emrys
ma...@home.org wrote on 4/9/01 3:46 PM:
Mexican accent?!? And you live in Arizona? Dale, you need to get out more.
Michael
Alan Hauk
<em...@olypen.com> wrote:
You are right. I didn't make myself clear. Longbow 1 & 2 are very
respected and were supposed to have some excellent features. The Chuck
Yeager descendants are USAF and WWIIF, both of which I have on my PC.
They are tremendous fun, like CYAC was, but do not have very realistic
flight models (by today's standards). However, there are some 3rd party
flight model modifications which have made them better sims than when
they were issued. both still have a large following even though they
are now bargain bin games.
Alan
Michael Emrys
at rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 4/10/01 12:45 AM:
> In article <B6F7A965.C826%em...@olypen.com>, Michael Emrys
> <em...@olypen.com> wrote:
>
>> No, no. Stick around. I think we better keep an eye on you. At least until
>> the incubation period is passed.
>
> Moooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Uh-oh. Better set your stun guns to 'obliterate', boys. Just to be on the
safe side.
Michael
Michael Emrys
alan...@gol.com wrote on 4/10/01 6:26 AM:
> The Chuck
> Yeager descendants are USAF and WWIIF, both of which I have on my PC.
> They are tremendous fun, like CYAC was, but do not have very realistic
> flight models (by today's standards).
No argument there. The little bit that I know and can recall is consonant
with your statement.
Michael
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Michael Emrys
4/10/01 4:50 PM:
> Michael Emrys wrote:
>>
>> in article rpg14-54DA34....@nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk, Richard P. Grant
>> at rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 4/10/01 12:45 AM:
>>
>>> In article <B6F7A965.C826%em...@olypen.com>, Michael Emrys
>>> <em...@olypen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, no. Stick around. I think we better keep an eye on you. At least until
>>>> the incubation period is passed.
>>>
>>> Moooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
>>
>> Uh-oh. Better set your stun guns to 'obliterate', boys. Just to be on the
>> safe side.
>
> Uh, Chief, are we shooting at that dopey looking guy in the cow suit?
That's the one...DON'T POINT THAT THING AT ME GODAMMIT!!!
Whew!
Michael
Harro de Jong
Why not a nuke? Clears the whole area faster than you can say
'preventive clearing' <- (not good English, but a literal translation of
the term the Dutch govt uses for the EU policy in these matters)
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Dale
In the US, we call it "area denial" :) And use B-52's to achieve it :))
Dale
John Slade
Alan Hauk wrote:
I thought I was posting in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim. Sorry. I
guess they are history. They made some of the best sims like 688 Hunter
Killer, F-15, Fighters Anthology and Longbow Anthology. The 688 submarine
simulation was probably the best sub simulation on any computer. It's sad to
see them go.
John
John Slade
Michael Emrys wrote:
They never released A-10. It was scrubbed because they decided they were
going to simulate the A-10 in USAF. It seems to be the trend in the industry
today. Long standing simulation companies are going down. Microprose who made
great simulations in the olden days and recent years was bought by Hasbro. They
put out Spectrum Holobyte's Falcon 4.0, Mechwarrior 3 and M1 Tank Platoon 2. Then
Hasbro, being owned by Microsoft decided to close Microprose. They basically
killed the competition to their own simulations. Sims aren't selling as much as
RPG and RTS games but maybe the kids will get tired of RTS and then Sims can make
a comeback.
John
John Slade
Dale wrote:
Because I made a big goof and posted here instead of the PC flight sim
newsgroup.
John