Info-Mac Digest V10 #10
The Moderators
Info-Mac Digest Mon, 13 Jan 92 Volume 10 : Issue 10
Today's Topics:
[*] AMT Configure V1.0
[*] System 7 Tune-up
'030 Accelerators for the Mac Plus
(A) More on AutoDoubler
(A) Using More of your Hard Disk..... and disappearing fol...
(Q) Fonts- Apple vs Adobe
(R) Power Key on Mac Classics
Canadian tax software
Coprocessor for a Mac-LC
CTB modem tool does not support RTS/CTS ??
Datacopy Corp.
disappearing files/folders
Disk Cataloging
Floor Plans and BluePrint Related
Ftp to Apple, yes, again
Hardware file compression
Help
help with Sigma Designs PageView Monitor
IIsi Monitors
IIsi SIMMs
Info-Mac Digest V10 #8/MenuChoice
Info-Mac Digest V10 #9
InfoBrowser: HC Fun & Games
Init for deleteing word4.0 temp files
Keyboards and shutdown
LocalTalk ImageWriter settings
Mac Income Tax Programs
MacScan, New Image Technology
Osmosis simulation software request
PRAM
Question
QuickTime & movies
QuickTime, Scrapbook, & HyperCard at war!
REPLY: LC vs Classic II
Reporting from HyperCard
Resources to alter laserwriter driver
Rversing the screen for a Mac II
System 7.0 File sharing
System 7 gremlins
Tape Cartridges (R)
Telnet to Macs with NCSA
The 12" RGB monitor is *not* a 9" screen!
TI microLaser Turbo printers
Users of CD-I, CDTV and the Mac
Wave simulation software request
Wild Magic may require System 7.0...
Would anyone know...
Zmac, MacUser on Compuserve
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 9:19:58 EST
>From: to...@support.ie.com (Thomas Clodfelter)
Subject: [*] AMT Configure V1.0
This free utility may only be distributed by permission. Premission is
granted by Information Electronics to distribute this utility from rascal
and the info-mac archives at stanford.
"AMT Configure" is a utility that allows you to add, remove, and edit modem
definitions in the "Apple Modem Tool". It is System 7 compatible and
supports Balloon Help. This version will only work with V1.0 to V1.0.n
versions of the Apple Modem Tool.
Thomas Clodfelter @ Information Electronics
[Archived as /info-mac/comm/amt-configure.hqx; 42K]
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 17:57:45 PST
>From: The Moderators <Info-Mac...@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu>
Subject: [*] System 7 Tune-up
This is a disk image of the new "System 7 Tune-up" from Apple. Since
mjoh...@apple.com (who is in charge of the Apple ftp site) has requested
that users make it available via ftp to others in order to reduce their ftp
load, I assume that it is OK to post to Info-Mac.
The file is a Disk Copy image of an 800K disk; if you don't have Disk
Copy, you'll need to ftp it from ftp.apple.com or find another source.
Bill
Here is the readme file:
System 7 Tune-Up 1.0 Feature Summary
IMPROVED SYSTEM BEHAVIOR IN LOW MEMORY SITUATIONS
Fewer memory size alerts
When the user opens an application, if the available memory is less than the
application prefers but more than its minimum requirement, the application will
use the available memory. Memory size alerts such as "Application prefers
1024K of memory, 900K is available, do you want to open using available
memory?" will not appear.
Closed applications quit automatically when more memory is needed
Users commonly get into into low memory situations by closing a document window
without quitting the application, since the application still remains in
memory. With the System 7 Tune-Up installed, the Finder offers to quit such
applications automatically to make enough memory available when opening another
application.
Automatic printing without quitting the application
If the user chooses "Print..." with background printing on, and not enough memory
is available to use PrintMonitor, System 7 Tune-Up will print the document
immediately, without making the user quit the application.
Reduced System Software memory consumption when AppleTalk is off
With Chooser 7.1 included with the System 7 Tune-Up, if the user turns off
AppleTalk with the Chooser and then restarts, AppleTalk networking code will
not be loaded into system memory. This frees up 100 to 125K of RAM, depending
on the Macintosh model. If AppleTalk is turned on again with the Chooser, the
user must restart to use networking services.
Reduced System Software memory fragmentation
As the user opens applications, desk accessories, and control panels, the
amount of memory used by System Software increases. Problems in the System 7.0
and 7.0.1 Memory and Process managers prevent some of that memory from being
released when those programs quit. System 7 Tune-Up fixes those problems, so
more memory is released when applications and desk accessories quit.
PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENTS
Faster LaserWriter performance when printing TrueType fonts
The LaserWriter driver version 7.1 is on average approximately 40% faster than
version 7.0. Under certain situations, lab testing has shown a performance
increase of up to 73%. The 7.1 driver does not download software or fonts to
the LaserWriter IIf, IIg, NT, and NTX if the software or fonts are already in
the printer's ROM. This speeds printing of both TrueType(TM) and Type 1 fonts.
It also does not download TrueType software and fonts to the LaserWriter and
LaserWriter Plus; it instead converts TrueType fonts to Type 1 format and
downloads those.
Faster StyleWriter performance
StyleWriter driver version 7.2.2 is nearly twice as fast as version 7.1, as it
has been rewritten based on the Personal LaserWriter LS driver rather than the
ImageWriter driver. Like LS users, therefore, StyleWriter users need the "MS
Word TrueType(TM) Printer Init" from Microsoft to print Microsoft Word documents
correctly on the StyleWriter printer.
Better font memory management
TrueType software uses an area of System Software memory to store the most
recently used font images. A problem with System 7.0 and 7.0.1 clears this
area out whenever any new file is opened. TrueType must then refill this
memory, slowing performance (especially when printing). With the System 7 Tune
Up, this memory area is cleared only when a new font file is opened, increasing
font performance in general and TrueType printing in particular.
Faster Chooser performance
The new Chooser is approximately 52% faster for device selection and 61% faster
for zone selection. Keyboard shortcuts in the Chooser also select devices more
quickly. Improvements are most noticeable in network zones with many devices.
Faster Finder copying of large files
System 7 Tuner 1.0 improves the performance of Finder "move" and "duplicate"
operations by up to 22% on files over 250K in size.
BUG FIXES
Reduced possibility of data corruption with shared files
A problem in System 7.0 and 7.0.1 makes it possible for files shared with File
Sharing to become corrupted when two or more users access the file
simultaneously. File Sharing Extension 7.0.2 fixes this problem.
Increased PrintMonitor Reliability
System 7 Tune-Up makes Print Monitor more reliable and much less prone to
crashes.
Bitmapped fonts in the System File marked as purgeable
System 7 Tune-Up allows the Font Manager to unload certain fonts in the System
7.0 System file from System Software memory when not in use.
Aliases to the Trash
System 7 Tune-Up fixes occasional strange behavior of aliases to the Trash.
SCSI Manager
With System 7.0 and 7.0.1, using serial communications devices during heavy
File Sharing activity can cause the SCSI bus to become confused and seem busy
when in fact the bus is free. This causes the computer to hang. System 7
Tune-Up fixes this problem.
Sleeping Keyboard
At startup, the System 7 Tune-Up repeatedly resets Apple Desktop Bus keyboards,
preventing a problem in which some keyboards sometimes failed to wake up. This
fix is included in 7.0.1 as well.
[Archived as /info-mac/ex/system-7-tune-up-image.hqx; 746K]
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:47:03 EST
>From: "Charles A. Patrick" <PAT...@VM.NRC.CA>
Subject: '030 Accelerators for the Mac Plus
On Thursday January 10 in v10 #8, Phil Jung asks about economical accelerators
for the Plus.
Just about a month ago I was pursuing the same information. The best bet seems
to a NewLife accelerator called the NewLife Plus, manufactured by a company
called (guess what!) NewLife Computer Corporation, which is located in my
(wide sense) backyard: 603 March Road, Kanata, Ontario, Canada, K2K 2M5.
(800) 663-6395 or (613) 592-5080, and FAX (613) 592-9738.
The NewLife Plus is a '030 board, available in a variety of clock speeds. It
boasts 4 SIMM sockets that accommodate either 1MB SIMMS or 4MB SIMMS, and a
32 bit data path. Its basic Canadian suggested retail price is $688. As with
other boards the accelerator can be clipped on or soldered. The basic kit comes
with a power supply augmentation arrangement and a fan. It sounds like a good
deal. Certainly it would bear further investigation!
I got this information from a fellow with first name Patrick, who, I got the
impression, would be more than happy to assist your investigations.
It is certainly my intention to purchase this board for my son's Plus very soon
after it starts shipping.
Hope this helps!
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 23:26:38 -0500
>From: mjk...@media-lab.mit.edu
Subject: (A) More on AutoDoubler
Hiya!
Well, there still seems to be some question about AutoDoubler, so I'll
make a couple of observations:
1) All of its COMPRESSION is done in the background, when your
machine is IDLE. So, it doesn't even run as a background task and slow
your machine down...
2) The AD compression format is ASYMMETRICAL. It takes a long time to
compress a file (when it doesn't matter how long it takes), but not long
at all to decompress. I tried a large HyperCard stack, and it took
65 seconds to compress, but 5 seconds to decompress. (Savings was 55%,
BTW). Note also that you don't usually have to decompress a file, unless
you need to make changes to it. SO, your big files (usually your apps),
will never need to be decompressed to disk, and the times are even
faster, since there's not any save/verify I/O to the disk.
3) Somebody in the last digest mentioned that the reason AD doesn't
use the DoubleUP board is because of licensing problems with the
compression chip. If that's the case, could somebody please tell me the
number of the chip's company, so that I can call and scream at the top
of my lungs for several hours? 1/8 :-)
Seeya,
--Mike
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 16:46 N
>From: <HEWAT%FRILL52...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> (HE...@FRILL.BITNET FAX FRANCE[33] 76-48-39...)
Subject: (A) Using More of your Hard Disk..... and disappearing fol...
Distribution-File:
info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
(A) Using More of your Hard Disk..... and disappearing folders
The Apple HD SC SetUp application that formats your hard disk automatically
rounds down the partition it assigns as the "maximum". For example on a
nominal 40 MB apple disk, it would assign 32K to the partition map, 16K to
the driver, and 40 MB to the Mac-HFS partition available to the user, leaving
typically 1 MB unused. This unused space, which can be 2 MB on an 80 MB disk
and even more on larger disks, can in fact be used if you reformat the disk.
First backup your hard disk completely since all data will be lost. Then boot
with the system floppy containing "Apple HD SC SetUp", and run this application.
Click on "Partition" and then on the Mac-HFS partition to select it, and delete
it. Then create a "custom" Mac-HFS partition using the real maximum size
(about 41 MB). Finally, click on "Update" to update the driver. You must do
this anyway if you switch to system 7.
****** WARNING ******
You should then RE-FORMAT your hard disk. Failure to do this may lead to the
mysterious 'disappearing folders' reported by Wade Williams and others including
myself. In both these cases the partition had been extended with HD-SC 7.
In my case, Norton DD reported that this problem was because:
>A part of the disk's directory was found to contain some invalid information.
>(fLink loop at node #643).
Apple France also suggested that the problem could be because the disk may
have been formatted as shipped with a US system-7 incompatible formatter ???
Alan Hewat, ILL, 156X Grenoble Cedex, France (He...@Frill.bitnet@internet#)
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Date: 13 Jan 92 16:36:58 U
>From: "Rick Jarvis" <rick_...@quickmail.clemson.edu>
Subject: (Q) Fonts- Apple vs Adobe
(Q) Fonts: Apple vs Adobe
A couple of years ago, I purchased the Adobe screen fonts for Laserwriter and
Laserwriter Plus, mostly for the bold, italic, and bold-italic fonts but also
because I had read that the Adobe screen fonts corresponded more closely to
Postscript output than the screen fonts Apple shipped with their system
software. (These were run through the Suitcase Font Harmony utility.) Now I
have a Powerbook which requires System 7 (still running 6.05 at work). I
recently got Suitcase 2.0 and started moving fonts out of System 7 into
separate suitcase files. At that point, I noticed that the screen fonts which
came with System 7 did not include the bold, italic, etc. versions. My question
is, should I replace the Apple screen fonts with the Adobe versions? How well
will the Adobe screen fonts match Truetype output? On a related note, should
changing system versions (say 6.03 to 6.05 or 6.07) change pagination in Word
if exactly the same screen fonts (Adobe) are used for the different systems?
What about same system and fonts on a Plus versus an SE. Any insight would be
appreciated. Thanks.
James P. Jarvis, Clemson University, jp...@clemson.clemson.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 9:25:26 EST
>From: casg...@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Casgrain Philippe)
Subject: (R) Power Key on Mac Classics
In info-macv10-009, Bob Canfield writes:
> [...] That key above your numbers
> is useless on a compact Mac. 8-)
>
> Cheers,
> Bob Canfield
Well, Im not so sure. I use it all the time, with PwrSwitcher and P key,
the first one to switch between applications and the second one to enter
MacsBug. I find it _very_ useful on my Mac Classic :-)
Phil Casgrain
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:10 MST
>From: JBPowl...@UNCAMULT.BITNET
Subject: Canadian tax software
Speaking of programs such as MacinTax and TurboTax, does anyone know of
a CANADIAN tax program?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 12:41:53 EST
>From: franc...@ANVIL.NRL.NAVY.MIL (Thomas L. Francavilla)
Subject: Coprocessor for a Mac-LC
I would like to add a math coprocessor to a Mac-LC. I would be
interested in listening to any experience (good or bad) that people have had,
as well as a recommendation of any third party hardware and associated
software. Thanks in advance to those who reply.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:40:12 -800
>From: ore...@netcom.ubc.ca (Dennis O'Reilly)
Subject: CTB modem tool does not support RTS/CTS ??
Over the past few months several readers have mentioned that
the Apple Hayes Modem Cable is not wired to support hardware
flow control. That is, the RTS and CTS modem control signals
are not wired through. This is unfortunate since hardware flow
control is desirable for use with high speed modems
(V.32bis/V.42bis modems).
One reader suggested configuring the high speed modem and the
Mac to support XON/XOFF flow control. This works okay as long
as you don't need to run fully transparent applications (e.g.,
SLIP-based applications).
Another reader mentioned that he had ordered a new cable with
the hardware flow control signals wired through from a company
called Dartek (1-800-832-7835) for $19.95 plus shipping.
There may be yet another problem. I noticed that the Apple
Communications ToolBox serial tool supports either XON/XOFF
flow control or RTS/CTS flow control, *but* the Apple modem
tool only supports XON/XOFF flow control. I'm running system 7
and the 1.0.2 Apple modem tool.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:21 MST
>From: JBPowl...@UNCAMULT.BITNET
Subject: Datacopy Corp.
re: someone asking for the address of Datacopy Corp. a wholly owned
subsidiary of Xerox Imaging Systems, 1215 Terra Bella Ave, Mountain
View, Calif. 94043-1833. The phone numbers I have for XIS are:
(415)965-7900, (800)248-6550 (sales) (800)777-3520 (upgrades). My dept
is a registered owner of one Datacopy product, the OCR program AccuText
2.0.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 18:51 EST
>From: JRCLARK%UTKVX4...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: disappearing files/folders
I too, have seen the disappearing file/folder problem.
A student just purchased an LC, and of course half the students in the
dorm came over and start loading his 80MB drive with every public
domain, shareware, and commerciial package they have. Well he's using
INITs (excuse me, extensions) and CDEVs from all kinds of sources, has
both Eradicate 'em AND Disinfectant INIT installed, after, of course
someone has run Disinfectant and discovered a version of NVIR already
infecting several applications. QuickTime was NOT one of the extensions
used.
Well about 9:00 that evening I got a phone call at home. This problem
was just about as noted by wa...@ducvax.auburn.edu in Info-mac digest
Vol. 10, No 8: a "FIND" could locate documents and/or applications, and
once found they would be visible, but on closing a folder;s window, the
folder and all its contents would disappear. Not only that, but
sometimes on closing a non-invisible folder, suddenly the expanded view
of the hierarchy of all folders and applications would suddenly appear!
I, too, was skeptical, and invited the student to bring his computer by
my office the next day, where I used my monitor, keyboard, and mouse
>From my SI with his LC.
His phone description was correct., and I am sure he got tired of my
saying "I have never heard of or seen anything quite like this."
The only disk tool I had available was Disk First Aid, which gave the
message "unable to verify status of disk," a message that I usually
interpret for floppies as a damaged sector in the directectory/boot
block area (this is just a guess on my part, I must admit.)
We started from a floppy using System 6.0.7. No change. I wish that I
could have used DiskTop's find file to see what it would do, but with
that unavailable, I could not even find the invisible files/folders. We
managed to delete his System 7 folder, installed System 6.0.7 on his
hard drive (by dragging, not using the install program) and restarted.
The System Folder was invisible! Finally out of desperation I
recommended that he reinitialize his drive and reinstall his System
Software. He called me later that night saying that all was working
fine.
The one thing I believe he learned out of all this, was when I trashed
several pirated commercial utilities (such as an early version of
Suitcase) stating that "even more recent versions of this are known to
have difficulties with System 7) was that "I guess I had better be a
little careful of 1) what I let people put on my hard drive and 2) the
versions of software I use!"
You'd better believe it!!!
Jim Clark Math/CS
The University of Tennessee at Martin
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 19:24 GMT+1
>From: FRI...@POLITO.IT
Subject: Disk Cataloging
Does anybody know of a disk cataloging application that does at least this:
- Catalog a disk as it's inserted and ejects it after it has finished cataloging
- Exports to TEXT files
- It is not too slow
- Removes duplicate filenames
- Has the option to catalog applications only or documents too.
Thank you very much for your help,
- Alberto.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 11:02 EST
>From: HORANJJ%snypotv...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Subject: Floor Plans and BluePrint Related
A inquiry for the net. Is there any software for the Macintosh that will
allow a user to make up floor plans and b
lueprint related layouts (flat) very easily with lables. I have checked out
MacDraw and Claris CAD. They work well but it would take my collegeau and I
weeks maybe months to draw 60 pages of blueprints for the college.
A nice added feature would be to have the lables linked to some sort of
database that would keep information about the rooms and sections of the
buildings.
If anyone has any suggestion please let me know. Reply to me direct, as I am
not subscribed to the list. (Working on it though)
..John
horanjj@snypotvx (BITNET)
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 92 14:09:54 GMT
>From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Ftp to Apple, yes, again
Can one bit-ftp from f...@apple.com? Some kind soul could post the
directory and instructions to the archives.
Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD, Richview, Clonskeagh, Dublin 14, E/ire
Phone: +353-1-706-2745
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 15:50:41 -0600
>From: "Stan Kerr" <stan...@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Hardware file compression
>A recent Computer Chronicles showed a product called Double Up, a
>nubus card which is used in conjunction with Disk Doubler for VERY
>FAST file (de)compression. It only costs a fraction of what a second
>hard disk would cost. I am interested since I am always in need of
>more hard disk space. I would appreciate the impressions of anyone wh
>has had direct experience with this or a similar product. On the same
>show, they had a product for the MS-DOS world using the same
>(de)compression chip that was totally seamless in operation.
>Everything worked the same (including file access times) except that
>all files including the applications took up less disk space. If only
>there were a Mac product like that...
I've been using the DoubleUp card for about 6 months now, and have found it
to be very fast and reliable. Once in a while, due perhaps to some
collision
of interrupts, the board complains and reverts to the software compression
algorithm, but I just tell it (through the 'DD' Finder menu) to go back
to using the board, and everything is happy. Salient Software is now
marketting AutoDoubler, which is more on the lines of the DOS packages;
I've ordered it and will see if it's really OK. AutoDoubler is pure
software and does not use the card, but they claim it is just as fast; I
am skeptical, but will soon know for sure.
The automatic compression stuff cannot of course really double your disk
capacity, for a couple of reasons. With the DoubleUp board, when I open
an application, it is decompressed along with everything in its folder
that has the same creator; if, however, the application uses stuff in
subfolders (as many do), *that* stuff is not decompressed. Perhaps
AutoDoubler will answer this issue, but even so, do you want to be
compressing and decompressing several megabytes of data every time you
enter and leave an application? Of course, if the bulk of your storage is
in documents created by the application, then you can gain a lot by keeping
all the documents compressed.
Another problem is with opening files from within an application;
supposedly they will be automatically decompressed, but I don't that
always works smoothly, if at all. (Sorry, I should be more specific,
but I don't have the time just now for a detailed experiment.)
So far, I'm happy with this stuff. It should enable me to survive with
my existing hard disk for quite a while longer, before I have to go beg
my boss for an expensive new disk.
--
Stan Kerr University of Illinois stan...@uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 18:53 IST
>From: Jack Flash <KTSD01%HUJIVM1...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Help
Shalom !
I am new in the FTP/SERVER/BITNET and I have many questions.
I am working on IBM mainframe and UNIX , to contact I have MAGIC V.42bis 2400 m
odem and KERMIT MAC and TERM.
The problem is that I do not have any doc. about the software and I don't know
how to download text files and macbinary files to my MAC +.
Anybody have the documents ?
Thanks
Jack Flash from ISRAEL (ktsd01 at hujivm1)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 08:44 EDT
>From: Kermit's Buddy! <GRAPHICS%EKU.B...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: help with Sigma Designs PageView Monitor
Folks,
A friend in another department has a Sigma Designs Pageview Monitor --
the cable broke and has since been repaired. While the cable was getting
fixed they upgraded to System 7.0, in order to share files; which has
saved them a bunch of hassle (they have one scanner and three folks have
to use the images).
The software for the monitor consists of an INIT and Cdev -- when
installed stops the system from loading. The version # 1.0.3 ! I have
repeatedly attempted to contact the company to no avail. Does anyone
know of an E-mail address or even better -- have a newer version of the
software that behaves under system 7.0??
Thanks for any help with this!
Bob Martin -- Grap...@eku.bitnet -- Academic Computing
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 17:45:13 EST
>From: "Dieder B." <UOG1...@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: IIsi Monitors
I was wondering if I could get some suggestions as to the choice of
a monitor for the IIsi...
12" RGB by Apple is out of the running...not enough resolution
13" RGB " " the upper-limit of my budget
so, what monitors would you suggest for me to obtain? I've heard about
a few that are offered by such firms as Mirror's $399 14" Monitor...
anyothers?
640 x 480 would be great...
D.
P.S. anybody able to tell me how mirror's 16" monitor would function
on the built in video of the IIsi/LC/ci? Thought there was only
a choice of four 'supported' displays...that's what the manual said anyhow.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 00:17:02 HST
>From: roscom!mo...@uunet.UU.NET (Monty Solomon)
Subject: IIsi SIMMs
What speed SIMMs does the IIsi require?
Thanks.
Monty
roscom!mo...@bu.edu
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Date: 13 Jan 92 09:38:00 PST
>From: "3915C::SYSTEM" <SYSTEM%3915C....@scfb.nwc.navy.mil>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #8/MenuChoice
I have experiences some problems with BeHierarchic also. BeHierarchic works
fine when running BeHierarchic on a MacII with a PowerCard 030, 2 Apple Monitors
(13"). But on a MacIIsi, with a E-Machine ColorPage monitor, the software locks
up the system whenever one tries to access the AppleMenu.
We are using version 2.7 drivers for the E-Machine. The current E-Machine
version is 3.3. When I get the new drivers, I'll post the results.
HO...@3915C.DECNET.NWC.NAVY.MIL
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 20:10 EST
>From: "JOHN M. HICKEY, JR." <CJOHNH%OCVAXC...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #9
Just how fast is fast, I wonder?
Autodoubler is wicked FAST. Yes! on a Macintosh! Lloyd Chambers has done a
heck of a job. The best part is that it is totally transparent (yes, boys &
girls it even fools the finder). In fact when loading a program with many
support files (Ohh... say Microsoft Word 5.0) The decompression time is only
seconds off the decompressed version - on any machine (yes... even the
Classic!) In fact copying files to a diskette is often faster. Even if you
already have DiskDoubler or just a hankering for more disk space check this
out! It is truly one of the HOT Mac utilities of the year!
John M. Hickey, Jr.
CJo...@Ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 18:55:33 EST
>From: Jeff Kline <EGK...@indst.indstate.edu>
Subject: InfoBrowser: HC Fun & Games
Well Folks I want to thank the net in general and specifically
I want to thank the people who so graciously responded to my
cry for help. I wrote in vol 9 or 10 ( sorry the mind is gone)
that My stack InfoBrowser 1.0.1 (/info-mac/card/infobrowser-101.hqx)
was having problems, it seems that a particular script which had
been working fine for a week had just died, and stopped working.
Well it seems, this is pretty definite, that the script had memory
troubles when it attempted to read in a a text line that was over 600 chars
in lkength. The stack could not handle this so it graciously stopped the
script, but it did not leave any error messages. Well when it left
the script it also corrupted my copy of the stack (well, I did
attempt to make it read the info about 20 times, eventually it just died.).
Well I have an older copy of the stack which works fine. I also
will include a script in the future that checks line length, and gracefully
quits. If you download the stack (and I hope that you all do) please keep
a backup of it and if it quits in the midddle of a script adjust the line
lengths of the text file. This should not keep occuring, but since
the machine is being switched, it seems that some things are getting through
the moderators (that is not a criticism of the moderators!!)
thanks again
Jeff Kline "TANSTAAFL" BITNET: egkline@INDST
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 10:49 EST
>From: A DOG HAS MORE FRIENDS BECUASE HE WAGS HIS TAIL INSTEAD OF HIS TONGUE <AC...@UMASSD.BITNET>
Subject: Init for deleteing word4.0 temp files
Has anyone heard of any init that will delete any word temp files at
start up? I assume any that are 0k.
I would appreciate it if you could reply directly to me as I am not on
this list (too much mail :) )
Thank you.
Chris Sullivan
UMass Dartmouth
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:44:56 CST
>From: Tamer M Selim <tms...@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Keyboards and shutdown
If you would like to be able to start-up a non-Mac machine with the power
button, buy a PowerKey. This is a surge suppressor that you plug you Mac,
and any other things you want to turn on with the Mac. When you want to
start up, simply push the triangle button (power button). When you select
shutdown from the special menu, the omputer and all the other devices
plugged into the PowerKey turn off automatically.
The PowerKey can be set to turn itself on at a pre-set time, and with QuicKeys
Lite (which is bundled for free) you can turn off the computer automatically.
PowerKey is made by Sophisticated circuits and can be found at all the major
mail order houses for around $70.
--Tamer (tms...@uiowa.edu)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 15:20:25 GMT
>From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: LocalTalk ImageWriter settings
I've just installed a LocalTalk card into our ImageWriter II. Of course,
no instructions came with it. I need to know the correct settings
for the little toggle switches inside on the bottom left-hand corner
of the IW. There are two banks, one with eight toggles, the other
with six. This is the setup at present, which doesn't work
down down up up up down up up down down up up down up
Much merit to him or her who has the swiftest answer...... :-)
Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD, Richview, Clonskeagh, Dublin 14, E/ire
Phone: +353-1-706-2745
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 16:50:39 -0500
>From: jk...@smiley.mitre.org
Subject: Mac Income Tax Programs
Well, I received a reasonable number of replies to my question about tax
preparation programs. Many people used Mac In Tax for the past several
years. It is (supposedly, which I guess means list price) in the $70 price
range
in the mail order houses and is well worth the money. I found these
typical prices: MacConnection $59, MacZone $61, MacWarehouse $59,
Mac'sPlace $59, and DrMac $56. The best value package I found was from
ChipSoft which has a special deal: a copy of MacInTax and a "free" copy of
Norton Utilities for $79 (which appears to be 1991 tax year list price).
Mail Address for MacInTax: ChipSoft, Inc., 6330 Nancy Ridge Drive, Suite
103, San Diego, CA 92121-2246. Phone number is (800) 487-8297
The greatest capability of this type program is the ability to do "what
if" calculations quickly and easily. Also, Mac In Tax has help files
available at the click of the mouse. It supports nearly all IRS forms
and you can print the forms and send them directly to the IRS. There is a
complete manual but it is rarely needed since most of the actions are
intuitive in nature. Another reader commented "MacInTax will import stuff
>From Quicken and other General Ledger type systems. Not useful to me, but
my friends like it."
Other comments combined into this paragraph included: I just purchased
MacInTax '91 (after using it in 1990). I'm very happy with it. It took
about an hour to complete a 1040 so that I have an estimate of what my
return will look like (still waiting for W-2's 109*'s etc.). If you do the
1040EZ then you probalby don't need any Tax program as it wont save you
much time if any.
No one strongly endorced the state tax packages. Then too, i don't recall
a reply from California which used to have a lengthly state tax form. Some
state tax forms (were reportedly) not available until April last year.
Some people remembered TurboTax, but Chipsoft bought the company and that
product is no longer sold, current, etc.
One reader noted that Heizer Software usually distributes a set of Excel
Templates. I am not sure about this year. They usually charge $35.
Only 93 more procrastinating days until Federal Income Taxes are again
due.
There was also one recommendation for using Managing Your Money, and the
output from MYM can be read directly by MacInTax. This make tax
preparation almost "automatic"...
Standard caveat: I have no relation with any firm selling Mac compatible
products, any relationship with any such firm, etc. My only relationship
is as an annual sponsor of the Internal Revenue Service.
jkahn%smi...@gateway.mitre.org
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 09:22:36 PST
>From: John Wical <UNCJWI%LL...@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: MacScan, New Image Technology
I'm looking for newer software to use with my scanner.
I'm using a MacScan page scanner interface between my Mac II (sys 7) and a
Cannon page scanner. This is a box which enables me to connect the Cannon page
scanner (which does not have a SCSI port) to the Mac SCSI bus.
This was purchased 2nd hand and is quite old. The manual is dated 4-5-88!!
The software is version 1.21.
I tried to contact the manufacturer, New Image Technology, Inc, without
success. The phone number (301-731-2000) has no answer, and information
in that area (301-555-1212) does not find any organization with their name.
The address in the manual is 9701 Philadelphia Court, Lanham, Maryland 20706.
I suspect that they have gone out of business.
The software does work, feeble though it is. I have had some problems
converting scanned images to other formats, like SuperPaint and TIFF formats.
Has anyone heard of this software?
Has anyone heard of this organization?
Is there a newer version of the scanning software out there?
Is there any OTHER scanning software that might work with this setup?
John
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 21:07:21 +0100
>From: Martin Ammann <mam...@ubevax.unibe.ch>
Subject: Osmosis simulation software request
Dear net
Our teachers of biology at the State Teachers Training College are
desperately looking for software to simulate the biological osmosis
on computer screen. Our hope for the existence of such a program
relates to the fact that a few years ago such a program existed for
the Commodore C64. As our school hardware is entirely based on the
Mac (thank GodI) we hope to find an appropriate "Osmosis-Simulation"
for our nice hardware.
Please email any hints concerning respective simulation-software
(shareware, freeware, PD, comercial software) to the adress below.
Thanks
Martin Ammann
mam...@ubevax.unibe.ch
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 17:44:24 EST
>From: "Dieder B." <UOG1...@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: PRAM
Questions, esoteric and such:
First, where can I get some more information about the Systems of
the LC and the IIsi, specifically regarding the parameter RAM?
Huh you say?
When running MacTest, an Apple Diagnostic utility, it told me that my
Mac had been running for X hours, and was first used (i.e. when I first
ran the computer) etc... question is, does anybody know how I can get
information regarding the layout of the parameter RAM i.e. values etc?
I've seen older utilities that allow you to determine what the Mac Scans
at startup first, i.e. SCSI, External floppy etc ....
Any help or information would be great...I do not have access to Inside Mac
volumes at the present though, so any answers would be appreciated...if
not for the sake of satisfying my curiousity about such things...
Thanks
D. (really short signature line eh?)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 13:53:02 EST
>From: Behzad Barzideh <BBARZIDE%SBC...@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: Question
Hello everyone,
I am looking for a program for our Mac lab at S.U.N.Y @ Stony Brook.
Since this is a public lab and students have a habit of leaving file on
the Hard Disk, I was wondering if this is a program which would cleanup
hard disks from unwanted files automaticly base on some set interval.
Thank you in advance
Behzad Barzideh
Microcomputer Specialist
Instructional Computing
bbar...@ccvm.sunysb.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 19:27 GMT+1
>From: FRI...@POLITO.IT
Subject: QuickTime & movies
Hello, everybody.
I'd like to know if anybody has downloaded from CompuServe some QuickTime movies
and/or the application itself.
I saw that in Library 1 (I think) of the MACFUN forum there are a LOT of them!
Is anybody who's not paying $40 per hour as I do willing to download a couple of
them?
We could also open a new directory in sumex-aim for QT movies! (I've not been
reading info-mac issues for about 10 days, so I don't know if you've done this
yet... or if you have already uploaded QuickTime...)
Thanks a lot,
- Alberto.
P.S. Here is a partial list of the files available from CIS:
QTBHAT.CPT 1 75K 12-20-91 "Bird Hat" movie 80x60, 3sec
QTBGRT.CPT 1 38K 12-20-91 "Bogart" movie 80x60, 5sec
QTBFLY.CPT 1 31K 12-20-91 "Bee Fly" movie 80x60, 4sec
QTWSTN.CPT 1 45K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Twisting "N" Movie" 76x75, 2sec
QTVDAN.CPT 1 65K 12-15-91 QuickTime "TV Dance Movie" 81x62, 2sec
QTPOPY.CPT 1 684K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Popeye Eats Movie" 152x114, 12sec
QTPHAN.CPT 1 159K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Phantom Movie" 168x128, 3sec
QTNVSL.CPT 1 43K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Nav Space Logo Movie" 96x63, 10sec
QTLRIS.CPT 1 100K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Linda Rises Movie" 81x62, 2sec
QTJBOX.CPT 1 39K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Jack in Box Movie" 81x62, 1sec
QTCWLD.CPT 1 88K 12-15-91 QuickTime "Cubic World Movie" 128x96, 3sec
QTBPNT.CPT 1 55K 12-15-91 QuickTime "BluePrint Movie" 81x62, 1sec
ATTPLS.BIN 1 297K 12-15-91 Attention Please! QuickTime sample
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 17:43 CST
>From: SJONES%RHODES...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: QuickTime, Scrapbook, & HyperCard at war!
Here's an interesting dilemma I wonder if anyone else has encounterd. If I
paste a QT Movie into the scrapbook, and then try to open HyperCard, I get the
dialog "The application Unknown has unexpectedly quit because an error type 1
has occured." I can't open HyperCard, or any stack, until I delete
the QT movie from the scrapbook. This even happens after I remove the movie
>From the Clipboard. Anyone else experience this? I am running 7.0, virtual
memory, 32-bit off, and about 20 assorted extensions. It's no BIG problem, but
it IS annoying!
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
Steve
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 09:31:54 -0500
>From: geo...@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: REPLY: LC vs Classic II
In comp.sys.mac.digest kgat...@mailbox.syr.edu writes:
[excellent list of reasons to buy and use an LC deleted]
>Okay, true, I could take a Classic II and attach a monitor to it externally,
>but I don't want to give up that much desk real estate, and besides, it's
>definitely unaesthetic.
Well... you can't attach an external monitor to a Classic II, which is why
I don't think I would ever buy one.
>Anyway, I think that we need to consider more than power and nifty features
>when we consider what kind of machine is best for someone else. Maybe the
>stuff that's important to us doesn't mean a thing to the person who's actually
>going to buy the thing. Not that you're guilty of this Randy, but I think
>that a lot of us need to stop being technosnobs and realize that not everyone
>needs a Quadra on their desks.
Hear hear... I recently advised some administrative support people to save
some money and get LC's with monochrome monitors instead of the IIsi's
they were considering. They saved money and got Macs that will do the job
they want of them. The few people they have who crunch numbers can now get
better machines because of the money they saved.
A lot of people look down on the LC but it is a good machine if you put it
to the right use. I had one for a job over the summer that I used for
simple spreadsheet work and word processing. I used it with a 13" hi-res
color monitor and a 12" monochrome. Both monitors made it possible to view
the entire width of documents I was editing and that is what mattered. The
color was a nice bonus though.
A nice fast '030 can be a real nice thing when you are in a hurry but the
antiquated '020 can still do the job for most simple microcomputer tasks.
-Geoff
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 12:44:42 EDT
>From: Charles E. Bess <adobe!ais.tsd.eds.com!c...@labrea.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Reporting from HyperCard
I have found the reporting capabilities to be a bit lacking in HyperCard 2.x. I
would welcome any suggestions for HyperCard tools/products to assist with this
problem. Thanks
Charles E. Bess Internet: c...@ais.tsd.eds.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 13:08 EST
>From: A DOG HAS MORE FRIENDS BECUASE HE WAGS HIS TAIL INSTEAD OF HIS TONGUE <AC...@UMASSD.BITNET>
Subject: Resources to alter laserwriter driver
I have seen this posted on this list before, but I have seemed to lost
the correct numbers. Does anyone know in which resource and what
number the %i or ^i postscript variable for number of copies is in the
laserwriter drivers? Someone posted the wonderful idea of changing
the variables to a 1 to force one copy no matter what was entered in
the dialog box.
Any help would be appreciated.
Chris Sullivan
UMass Dartmouth
AC...@UMASSD.EDU
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 10:26:08 EST
>From: casg...@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Casgrain Philippe)
Subject: Rversing the screen for a Mac II
Following my request of a gadget to reverse the screen, Eric Apgar
sent me an FKey that does just that (reversing the screen).
But beware, it works only on Macs with a video card (II, IIx and IIci for
sure, I don't know about the others).
Since nothing can be added tothe list for a while, e-mail me if you can't
wait to have it for yourself.
Phil Casgrain
Casg...@ere.UMontreal.ca
P.S. I must add that to install an FKey, you do not need to put ResEdit on
the boot floppy (since you can't boot from your usual system). All you
have to do is boot from a System-6 floppy (such as the Disk tools/800k) and
option-click on the FKey file, which will force ResEdit to use the boot system
(this is known as "preventing switch-launching").
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 15:21:04 CST
>From: Kn...@redstone-emh2.army.mil
Subject: System 7.0 File sharing
We are trying to setup a network using system 7 and file sharing.
This only allows a max of 10 concurrent users. We can't find a way
to change this. Are we missing something or has Apple done it again.
If anyone has the solution please reply to my e-mail address.
Thanks.
Kelvin
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 12:34 EST
>From: "Felix Kreisel (617)253-8625" <KRE...@SPARK.PFC.MIT.EDU>
Subject: System 7 gremlins
Hi. I have a Mac LC loaded with 10 MB and a GCC WriteMove printer. I use the
Mac mainly for word processing. After installing System 7, I began to
experience some weird symptoms.
In MS Word 4:
the Mac would switch to all capital letters, hitting the Shift key would
restore normality;
some letters would not register;
all of a sudden some letter would keep appearing as if the key were stuck;
Mouse would move very slowly and erratically.
When trying to use the modem port for communication:
some noise would keep loading the line and eventually the Mouse and the system
would freeze.
And generally, the Mac would stop responding to commands, especially to the
Quit command and would need to be rebooted.
I tried various things: reformatting the disk, checking for viruses,
re-installing all my software, etc. Now, I suspect the original GCC printer
software because the system seems to be working fine until I install the
printer driver and spooler and reboot.
Has anyone seen similar problems? Thanks for any help.
Felix Kreisel MIT Plasma Fusion Center 617-253-8625
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 12:05:39 MEZ
>From: Helmut ORTNER <U3011VAB%AWIUNI1...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Tape Cartridges (R)
hi allan|
DC600, DC6150, DC6250 and so on are "tape cartridges" which are mechanically
incompatible with the CS-600XD "tape cassettes" required for your streamer.
(they have a different size an won't fit)
I use the same brand for my microtech streamer with no problems, and it is
much less expensive than the original TEAC-cassette (at least her in Austria)
hope this helps
Helmut
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 15:50:49 -0600
>From: "Stan Kerr" <stan...@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Telnet to Macs with NCSA
> I used to connect to our mainframe computer before FTPing to
> Stanford or anywhere else. I usually did a mget to get multiple
> digests and every thing worked fine. Then I found out I could
> FTP directly from my Mac using a different version of Telnet
> version 2.3.4/BYU (I think). Only now I cant mget anymore for
> some reason. I execute the command and it doesn't give me any
> errors but it only gets the first file in the list. This is
> annoying because sometimes I download many digests because we
> maintain a indexed HyperText data base of the digests.
> Any ideas why I cant mget from my Mac?
> Troy Kelley
I have both BYU Telnet 2.3.2 and 2.3.4 and just tried mget with each of
them, with no problem. What other commands are you entering? (I just
used 'user', 'cd', and 'mget'.)
--
Stan Kerr University of Illinois stan...@uiuc.edu
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1992 22:20:20 -0600 (CST)
>From: Z_RY...@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU (Larry Rymal)
Subject: The 12" RGB monitor is *not* a 9" screen!
Uh, folks, it has been stated that the 12" RGB monitor
"has a resolution of 512x342, *exactly* the same as the resolution
of the 9" screens on compact Macs."
That is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! Let's not make the display
any smaller. The deeper this discussion gets, the more that monitor seems
to shrink.
On the LC, the 12" RGB monitor has a resolution of 512x384. The width
is identical to the 9" screen, but the length is about one inch deeper.
Larry Rymal <Z_RY...@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU> >Save FullWrite Professional!!!<
>Submit those petitions today!!<
Stephen F. Austin State University, Nacogdoches, Texas
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 07:50 CST
>From: Andy Kesling <KES...@gamma.is.tcu.edu>
Subject: TI microLaser Turbo printers
I currently have two TI PS35 laser printers connected to a five-person work
group. We have had a great experience with these printers but have begun to
notice how slowly they perform. I have product sheets on TI's Turbo laser, which
appears to be a considerable upgrade. Among its offerings are Level 2 PostScript
and a Weitek 8220 RISC-based 16 MHz co-processor. Has anyone used a Texas
Instruments Turbo printer or upgraded his or her PS17 or PS35? What has been
your experience with it? Is the Turbo worth the upgrade fee?
Andy Kesling
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 08:19 PST
>From: NORDGREN_L%PLU.B...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Users of CD-I, CDTV and the Mac
Please respond to the author of this message directly:
NORDG...@PLU.BITNET
---------------------
To end-users of CDTV and CD-I hardware and discs:
I'm curious to know if many people are actually using CDTV and CD-I
hardware and discs... especially in library or educational settings.
Has anyone been successful in interfacing one of these players to a
Macintosh or DOS machine? I'd like to make contact (by BITNET or
phone) with some "real" end-users of these formats to get some help
in understanding what's "out there" now in terms of hardware and
disc selections.
What hardware choices exist? What end-user aplications are you
using? What discs are actually available to the consumer? Where do
you get the discs? What are your best sources of information about
these formats?
Any help you could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks in
advance!
If there is interest, I would be glad to post a summary for the
list.
Layne Nordgren
Coordinator of Automated Systems
Supervisor of Media Services
Robert A. L. Mortvedt Library
Pacific Lutheran University
Tacoma, WA 98447
(206) 535-7197
BITNET: NORDGREN_L@PLU
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 21:08:42 +0100
>From: Martin Ammann <mam...@ubevax.unibe.ch>
Subject: Wave simulation software request
Dear net
Our teachers of physics at the State Teachers Training College are
desperately looking for software for simulation and graphic
presentation of electromagnetic waves, such as longitudinal and
transversal waves as well as the superposition and the resulting
stationary waves.
Parameter expected to be changeable should hence be the wave length,
frequency, speed and amplitude.
Please email any hints concerning respective simulation-software
(shareware, freeware, PD, comercial software) to the adress below.
Thanks
Martin Ammann
mam...@ubevax.unibe.ch
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 16:12 EST
>From: Byron...@MVS.UDEL.EDU
Subject: Wild Magic may require System 7.0...
...but the "beta" version at ftp.apple.com works on a IIsi (3/40) running
System 6.0.8. It CANNOT, however, be configured in the Sys6 control panel.
So apparently while Sys7 is required to make full use of Wild Magic, Sys6
(and, I guess the Sys6 init at ftp.apple.com) will allow it to cut and paste
QT MooV's (Tip o' the hat to the one who thought up that type code).
Either that's the case, or WordPerfect 2.0.1 is already QuickTime-aware (which
I seriously doubt).
BTW, if you create your messages offline, donUt forget to turn off your word
processorUs smart quotes feature (or your message MAY end up looking like this
sentence!). :)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 14:12:57 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Abraham J. Levine" <al...@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Would anyone know...
Does a product exist that will allow the user to enter the relevant
information, and then generate a bibliography based on that information,
fomatting the information correctly? Any help would be appreciated....
Thanks in advance,
Abe
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 92 09:16:26 PST
>From: John Wical <UNCJWI%LL...@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: Zmac, MacUser on Compuserve
Has anyone out there tried Zmac, MacUser's on-line service on compuserve?
I tried it yesterday for the first time, unsuccessfully. All I got was
garbage. I didn't get any intelligible prompts. There appears to be a
prompt, but the text is all garbled.
Does anyone have any suggestions for solving this problem?
I'm using 8bits, 1 stop, and no parity, just as the magazine says. The
magazine says to call 800-635-6225 to get a local access phone number. The
local access phone number it gave me is 714-882-9626 (I'm in San Bernardino
county in Southern California).
I'm using QuickLink II (which came with my Zoom modem) on a Mac II
running system 7.
John
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