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Otto Pylot

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Sep 25, 2008, 11:51:18 PM9/25/08
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iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory

I applied the latest software updates via Software Update to my
daughter's iBook. Shutdown and restarted from her installer disk to
repair permissions and verify the disk. The disk was ok but permissions
needed repairing which were done successfully. When I launched Network
because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
changed by another application". Everytime I clicked OK the dialog box
came back and wouldn't let me do anything. I had to force quit
Preferences to get rid of it. I can usually connect to our network via
Airport but when I can't, trying to launch Network results in the same
error message problem. My concern is that when my daughter takes her
iBook back to school she won't be able to select her home network. I
don't see any open applications nor do I see anything in her Startup
Items folder. What have I missed? Suggestions and/or help would be
greatfully appreciated. She goes back to college in a few more days.
Thanks.

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David Ryeburn

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Sep 26, 2008, 3:21:47 AM9/26/08
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In article <250920082051180913%ot...@bogus.address.invalid>,
Otto Pylot <ot...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:

> iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory

...

> When I launched Network
> because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
> there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
> I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
> changed by another application". Everytime I clicked OK the dialog box
> came back and wouldn't let me do anything. I had to force quit
> Preferences to get rid of it.

Try moving the file
/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
elsewhere, reboot, and see if things are better. You'll have to reset most
of your network preferences.

You may be able to open the set-aside file in a text editor to see what some
of those preferences ought to be, if you can't remember some of them.

David

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Adrian

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Sep 26, 2008, 5:24:26 AM9/26/08
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In article <250920082051180913%ot...@bogus.address.invalid>,
Otto Pylot <ot...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:

> iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory
>
> I applied the latest software updates via Software Update to my
> daughter's iBook. Shutdown and restarted from her installer disk to
> repair permissions and verify the disk. The disk was ok but permissions
> needed repairing which were done successfully. When I launched Network
> because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
> there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
> I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
> changed by another application".

Could this be your problem?
<http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20080925091223670>

It might be worth downloading this and checking your system
<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/33696>

Adrian

Otto Pylot

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Sep 26, 2008, 9:46:51 PM9/26/08
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In article <ryeburn-489C4A...@morgoth.sfu.ca>, David
Ryeburn <rye...@sfu.caz> wrote:

> In article <250920082051180913%ot...@bogus.address.invalid>,
> Otto Pylot <ot...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
>
> > iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory
>
> ...
>
> > When I launched Network
> > because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
> > there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
> > I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
> > changed by another application". Everytime I clicked OK the dialog box
> > came back and wouldn't let me do anything. I had to force quit
> > Preferences to get rid of it.
>
> Try moving the file
> /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
> elsewhere, reboot, and see if things are better. You'll have to reset most
> of your network preferences.

Thanks. I found a rather long thread on MacFixit about this with a
couple of different fixes including yours. I tried one and it seems to
have corrected the problem. However, the proper fix for this is up to
Apple.


>
> You may be able to open the set-aside file in a text editor to see what some
> of those preferences ought to be, if you can't remember some of them.
>
> David

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Otto Pylot

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Sep 26, 2008, 9:49:14 PM9/26/08
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In article <me-826059.10...@news.ukfsn.org>, Adrian
<m...@my.privacy> wrote:

> In article <250920082051180913%ot...@bogus.address.invalid>,
> Otto Pylot <ot...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
>
> > iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory
> >
> > I applied the latest software updates via Software Update to my
> > daughter's iBook. Shutdown and restarted from her installer disk to
> > repair permissions and verify the disk. The disk was ok but permissions
> > needed repairing which were done successfully. When I launched Network
> > because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
> > there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
> > I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
> > changed by another application".
>
> Could this be your problem?
> <http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20080925091223670>

I checked for the trojan and it wasn't there. It turns out that the
problem was caused by the recent Apple security update. The fixes are
over at MacFixit in a rather long thread. Thanks.


>
> It might be worth downloading this and checking your system
> <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/33696>
>
> Adrian

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Oct 13, 2008, 12:28:12 PM10/13/08
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On Sep 26, 9:46 pm, Otto Pylot <o...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ryeburn-489C4A.00214726092...@morgoth.sfu.ca>, David
>
>
>
> Ryeburn <ryeb...@sfu.caz> wrote:
> > In article <250920082051180913%o...@bogus.address.invalid>,

Otto,

Can you provide a link to the fix you found at MacFixIt? I have this
same problem and I've tried the DNS Trojan finder and that did not
work. Thanks.

Peace Power

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Nov 14, 2008, 4:56:26 PM11/14/08
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On Sep 25, 7:51 pm, Otto Pylot <o...@bogus.address.invalid> wrote:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=592305
teleromeo
macrumors 6502a wrote:

When I try to open the network control panel I get this warning. I
have no idea what application changed it and why it pops up. Also,
when I click Ok the warning pops up again and again and ... In other
words, I can no longer acces the control panel to change my settings.
Can anyone tell me what I can do to solve this ?

emt1
macrumors 6502 wrote:
As a workaround, I suggest you go to preferences -> Security, and
check the box that says "require a password to unlock each system
preferences pane". This should prevent whatever is changing your
settings from doing that.

teleromeo
Thread Starter
macrumors 6502a wrote:
That does the trick as long as I leave that box checked, when I
uncheck it, the message starts popping up again, I guess I better
leave it on.
Thanks for the help.

elZotto
macrumors newbie wrote:
Same thing happened to me. The same repeating message.
The only way out was to force quit the System Preferences.

Started about three days ago. I was about to post a query when I
searched first and found this thread.

I tried what you suggested and it seems to have worked.
Thanks emt1! You Rock!

Now, inquiring minds wish to know:
Why does this happen?
How can we find which app changed my settings?
Why did an app change my settings without my permission?
Why does emt1's workaround make it all allright?
Why now and why to two people? Any more out there?

Thanks in advance,

elZ

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=592305

Peace Power

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Nov 14, 2008, 10:15:23 PM11/14/08
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Otto Pylot wrote:
> iBook G4, 1.42GHz, OS 10.4.11, 512MB memory

This fixed the same problem I had:

A Fix for "Your network preferences have been changed by another
application" Error

In the Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/ folder delete the
following:

com.apple.airport.preferences.plist
NetworkInterfaces.plist
preferences.plist
com.apple.nat.plist

You will have to re-configure all your network settings since deleting
these files will cause them to be returned to defaults.

AES

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Nov 15, 2008, 10:56:18 AM11/15/08
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> > I applied the latest software updates via Software Update to my
> > daughter's iBook. Shutdown and restarted from her installer disk to
> > repair permissions and verify the disk. The disk was ok but permissions
> > needed repairing which were done successfully. When I launched Network
> > because I wanted to make sure that her network locations were still
> > there (she's home from college and has been using our wireless network)
> > I got an error dialog box that said "Your network settings have been
> > changed by another application". Everytime I clicked OK the dialog box
> > came back and wouldn't let me do anything. I had to force quit
> > Preferences to get rid of it. I can usually connect to our network via
> > Airport but when I can't, trying to launch Network results in the same
> > error message problem. My concern is that when my daughter takes her

Some questions from someone who got hit by this exact same bug (and by
others over time, of course); discovered that many other people had been
hit by it also; eventually, tediously, got led to a solution; and since
then sees it come back on this newsgroup again and again (and again):

Q1) How many Genius Bars are there in Apple stores worldwide?

Q2) When somebody comes into a Genius Bar with this (or some similar)
problem, does the alleged genius behind the bar have access to some kind
of Apple online resource they can go to to look up what might be known
about it? Or do they have to futz around trying to figure out what's
wrong?

Q3) When they cope with a problem like this, do the Genius Bar geniuses
post some kind of report to such an online resource? Or do they just
leave it for the next genius who's faced with the same problem to figure
it out independently?

Q4) Does Apple have somebody who routinely scans newsgroups like this,
looking for recurring problems, and making sure they get noted,
solutions posted, and the problems eventually solved?

Q5) Is there a single, official resource where people like me, when
they meet any such a bug, can go and _quickly_ get pointed to a
solution? (As opposed to tediously digging out a solution buried in
complicated user groups or newsgroups.)

Q6) When bugs like these are basically Apple's fault, does Apple ever
think of sending out a product warning to people who've downloaded the
Apple product that causes them?

Q7) And finally, if the answers to Q2 through Q6 are (as I suspect)
"No", might some genius at Apple think of turning them to "Yes" -- or
does Apple these days focus all its geniuses on turning out consumer
junk like the iTunes Genius software?

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Mike Rosenberg

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Nov 15, 2008, 3:26:05 PM11/15/08
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Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:

> > does Apple these days focus all its geniuses on turning out consumer
> > junk like the iTunes Genius software?
>

> Considering that iTunes is not junk, the question is meaningless.

Don't you know by now that whining about iTunes, which apparently he's
forced to use against his will, is his hobby?

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James Sidbury

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Nov 16, 2008, 11:15:59 AM11/16/08
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In article <michelle-AA8143...@mara100-84.onlink.net>,
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:

>
> > Q7) And finally, if the answers to Q2 through Q6 are (as I suspect)
> > "No", might some genius at Apple think of turning them to "Yes" -- or
> > does Apple these days focus all its geniuses on turning out consumer
> > junk like the iTunes Genius software?
>

> Considering that iTunes is not junk, the question is meaningless.

He didn't say that iTunes is junk, he said that iTunes Genius is junk.
And based on my experience it's junkiness is heavily related to one's
taste in music. For me it's only sort of junky.

dick

Mike Rosenberg

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Nov 16, 2008, 11:37:53 AM11/16/08
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James Sidbury <DrJames...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> He didn't say that iTunes is junk, he said that iTunes Genius is junk.

That's true for the post Michelle responded to, but check out his
posting history on the topic of iTunes - he's been a long-time critic.

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AES

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Nov 16, 2008, 3:25:53 PM11/16/08
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In article <DrJamesSidbury-24C...@news.individual.net>,
James Sidbury <DrJames...@hotmail.com> wrote:

And I didn't say Genius was "junk" period 限 I said it was "consumer
junk", which is a different concept (well-designed and well-made
consumer junk is still junk, if it's pointless junk to you).

As for iTunes, beneath the skin it's evidently a very sophisticated
audio file cataloger and player -- not at all junk so far as its
technical capabilities are concerned. The sad thing is that its user
interface and many of its capabilities have been so severely distorted
by consumer and DRM considerations as to make it near useless as a
serious tool for serious work by serious users of information technology.

John McWilliams

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Nov 16, 2008, 4:04:37 PM11/16/08
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AES wrote:

> As for iTunes, beneath the skin it's evidently a very sophisticated
> audio file cataloger and player -- not at all junk so far as its
> technical capabilities are concerned. The sad thing is that its user
> interface and many of its capabilities have been so severely distorted
> by consumer and DRM considerations as to make it near useless as a
> serious tool for serious work by serious users of information technology.

Could you illustrate what you mean by this latter statement, please?

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Ian Gregory

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Nov 16, 2008, 5:11:11 PM11/16/08
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On 2008-11-16, AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:

> As for iTunes, beneath the skin it's evidently a very sophisticated
> audio file cataloger and player -- not at all junk so far as its
> technical capabilities are concerned. The sad thing is that its user
> interface and many of its capabilities have been so severely distorted
> by consumer and DRM considerations as to make it near useless as a
> serious tool for serious work by serious users of information technology.

I am certainly a serious user of information technology. I don't use
iTunes for work (I use things like Perl, vim, gcc etc) but I do use it
for all my home audio requirements (managing my music library, ripping
CDs, subscribing to podcasts, listening to Internet radio etc).

It sounds like you have some specialist requirements and hopefully you
have found apps that meet your needs. I will stick to iTunes because it
efficiently meets my requirements with a nice user interface that works
with a minimum of fuss. I honestly can't think of any way in which I
would want it improved.

Ian

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