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dorayme

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Nov 6, 2012, 6:01:39 PM11/6/12
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Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent
to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection
without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the
initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who
would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to
be able to search for names of attachments.

Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?

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Jolly Roger

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Nov 6, 2012, 6:46:07 PM11/6/12
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In article <dorayme-BC3665...@news.albasani.net>,
See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after
you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that
Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are
probably looking for.

Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.

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Király

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Nov 6, 2012, 7:16:20 PM11/6/12
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dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
> emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11734

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dorayme

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Nov 7, 2012, 4:06:54 PM11/7/12
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In article <k7c98k$8ul$1...@dont-email.me>,
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:

> dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
> > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11734

With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already
know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just
emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys
AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?

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dorayme

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:35:03 PM11/7/12
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In article <jollyroger-89D1F...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-BC3665...@news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
> > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
> > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent
> > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection
> > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the
> > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who
> > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to
> > be able to search for names of attachments.
> >
> > Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
>
> See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after
> you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that
> Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are
> probably looking for.
>
> Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.

Thanks for this, it did what I was not expecting (creating a mailbox
with the relevant things which one deletes afterwards when the search
is done) but at least it is a way to do what I want! Usually I find
what I want simpler but something came up where I need this extra
power. Thanks again.

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Barry Margolin

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:47:04 PM11/7/12
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In article <dorayme-EB7AA0...@news.albasani.net>,
Yeah, I dislike that as well. Earlier versions of Mail let you create
complex searches without having to save them to "Smart Mailboxes" (you
could save them if you wanted to, but that was a separate action).

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Wayne C. Morris

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:01:45 AM11/8/12
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In article <dorayme-1A15E2...@news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <k7c98k$8ul$1...@dont-email.me>,
> m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
>
> > dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
> > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
> >
> > http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11734
>
> With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already
> know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just
> emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys
> AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?

I'd just create a Smart Mailbox to match messages where Any Recipient is Gladys
and Any Attachment Name contains "havelock". Much easier than trying to figure
out or remember the syntax for a complex search.

Jolly Roger

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:35:04 AM11/8/12
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Don't mention it. It took me a while to figure out how they designed it.
It really seems ass backwards to me.

dorayme

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:40:40 AM11/9/12
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In article <barmar-DF87AC....@news.eternal-september.org>,
If Mail.app developers are wedded to multi-step processing of searches
such as I mention, I would have thought one intuitive way would have
been for users to be able to type "Gladys" and press the 'To' button
in 'Sent' emails.

When the results for that come up, there could be a "Hold" button that
keeps the next search confined to what has already come up. "Hold"
would then clear the text field and the user can type further,
narrowing the search.

It is a much more human friendly way to search. That is what we do, we
narrow things down and then think further. Having to configure and
think everything through from the beginning is is sometimes too
bothersome (even when such did work in earlier mail). The developers
sort of have the idea in this ltest incarnation but it is rather
clumsy, having to delete a mailbox for which one has little use after
one's successful search.

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dorayme

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:43:56 AM11/9/12
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In article <509bc157$0$3155$e4fe...@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl>,
SK <n...@il.nl> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-1A15E2...@news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <k7c98k$8ul$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
> >
> > > dorayme <dor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of
> > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
> > >
> > > http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11734
> >
> > With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already
> > know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just
> > emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys
> > AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?
>
> Hmmm, maybe not what you're looking for, but below is a link to a script
> that saves attachments automatically. Why would you keep attachments in
> Mail?

Well, because it is easier to do nothing than to do something, I
guess. And besides, it seems rather logical and associative, surely.
Being *in* Mail is perhaps not like fat that an obese person carries
around all the time. More like a healthy person with a large pantry.


> Anyway, if you save the attachment(s) it may be easier to search using
> Spotlight. Moreover, the script works with Mail's rules. Every unique
> rule saves attachments to its unique folder. Works great for me. I'd say
> genius!!
>
> http://www.macosxtips.co.uk/index_files/automatically-save-mail-attachmen
> ts-using-applescript.php
>

Thanks for this, an interesting idea.

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