Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to be able to search for names of attachments.
Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
In article <dorayme-BC3665.10013807112...@news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to > be able to search for names of attachments.
> Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are probably looking for.
Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.
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dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:
> dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?
> In article <dorayme-BC3665.10013807112...@news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. > > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent > > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection > > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the > > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who > > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to > > be able to search for names of attachments.
> > Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
> See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after > you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that > Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are > probably looking for.
> Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.
Thanks for this, it did what I was not expecting (creating a mailbox with the relevant things which one deletes afterwards when the search is done) but at least it is a way to do what I want! Usually I find what I want simpler but something came up where I need this extra power. Thanks again.
dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-89D1F8.15460706112...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <dorayme-BC3665.10013807112...@news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. > > > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent > > > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection > > > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the > > > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who > > > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to > > > be able to search for names of attachments.
> > > Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
> > See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after > > you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that > > Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are > > probably looking for.
> > Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.
> Thanks for this, it did what I was not expecting (creating a mailbox > with the relevant things which one deletes afterwards when the search > is done) but at least it is a way to do what I want! Usually I find > what I want simpler but something came up where I need this extra > power. Thanks again.
Yeah, I dislike that as well. Earlier versions of Mail let you create complex searches without having to save them to "Smart Mailboxes" (you could save them if you wanted to, but that was a separate action).
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> > dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
> With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already > know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just > emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys > AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?
I'd just create a Smart Mailbox to match messages where Any Recipient is Gladys and Any Attachment Name contains "havelock". Much easier than trying to figure out or remember the syntax for a complex search.
dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-89D1F8.15460706112...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <dorayme-BC3665.10013807112...@news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. > > > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent > > > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection > > > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the > > > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who > > > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to > > > be able to search for names of attachments.
> > > Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
> > See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after > > you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that > > Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are > > probably looking for.
> > Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.
> Thanks for this, it did what I was not expecting (creating a mailbox > with the relevant things which one deletes afterwards when the search > is done) but at least it is a way to do what I want! Usually I find > what I want simpler but something came up where I need this extra > power. Thanks again.
Don't mention it. It took me a while to figure out how they designed it. It really seems ass backwards to me.
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> > > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently. > > > > You can type in "Gladys" and pick "to" and get all the emails you sent > > > > to Gladys. But then how to find out further things in this collection > > > > without visual inspection. If you try to append a string to the > > > > initial search term you can't get all the emails *to* that person, who > > > > would be called Gladys "sculpture exhibition". And it would be nice to > > > > be able to search for names of attachments.
> > > > Perhaps other email software have more sophisticated search facilities?
> > > See the little Save button that appears just below the search box after > > > you've typed something and hit Return on the keyboard? If you click that > > > Save button, you will see the familiar advanced search options you are > > > probably looking for.
> > > Talk about not obvious... Apple needs to address this for usability.
> > Thanks for this, it did what I was not expecting (creating a mailbox > > with the relevant things which one deletes afterwards when the search > > is done) but at least it is a way to do what I want! Usually I find > > what I want simpler but something came up where I need this extra > > power. Thanks again.
> Yeah, I dislike that as well. Earlier versions of Mail let you create > complex searches without having to save them to "Smart Mailboxes" (you > could save them if you wanted to, but that was a separate action).
If Mail.app developers are wedded to multi-step processing of searches such as I mention, I would have thought one intuitive way would have been for users to be able to type "Gladys" and press the 'To' button in 'Sent' emails.
When the results for that come up, there could be a "Hold" button that keeps the next search confined to what has already come up. "Hold" would then clear the text field and the user can type further, narrowing the search.
It is a much more human friendly way to search. That is what we do, we narrow things down and then think further. Having to configure and think everything through from the beginning is is sometimes too bothersome (even when such did work in earlier mail). The developers sort of have the idea in this ltest incarnation but it is rather clumsy, having to delete a mailbox for which one has little use after one's successful search.
> > > dorayme <dora...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > Be nice to be able to search for various things in a collection of > > > > emails to a particular person. Not sure how to do this efficiently.
> > With your knowledge gained from the above URL or from what you already > > know, in Snow Leopard and Mail 4.6, how would you search among just > > emails *to* Gladys, to produce only results that are emails to Gladys > > AND which have attachments with "havelock" in their names?
> Hmmm, maybe not what you're looking for, but below is a link to a script > that saves attachments automatically. Why would you keep attachments in > Mail?
Well, because it is easier to do nothing than to do something, I guess. And besides, it seems rather logical and associative, surely. Being *in* Mail is perhaps not like fat that an obese person carries around all the time. More like a healthy person with a large pantry.
> Anyway, if you save the attachment(s) it may be easier to search using > Spotlight. Moreover, the script works with Mail's rules. Every unique > rule saves attachments to its unique folder. Works great for me. I'd say > genius!!
