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Joe

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:58:51 PM11/11/09
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When someone wants to send an e-mail to a group of people, how can that
e-mail be sent so that the entire list of addressees does not show on each
recipient's copy of that e-mail?

This should be possible in *any* e-mail program, I guess, but in
particular, I'm using mail.app 1.2.5 (v533), and the person who is sending
e-mails to a list of people has

X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006

in his e-mail header.

Thanks.

--- Joe

BreadW...@fractious.net

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:34:53 PM11/11/09
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N...@this.address (Joe) writes:

> When someone wants to send an e-mail to a group of people, how can that
> e-mail be sent so that the entire list of addressees does not show on each
> recipient's copy of that e-mail?

Instead of putting the list of addresses in the To: or the Cc:
header, put them in the Bcc: line.

That line isn't always visible by default in your mail composition
window, and it depends on the software how to access it.

--
Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow?
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting

AES

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:50:27 PM11/11/09
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In article
<Not-111109...@dialup-4.231.174.80.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net>,
N...@this.address (Joe) wrote:

If there's a "Bcc" header, use it instead of the "Cc:" header.

(Stands for "Blind carbon copy", for those who remember carbon paper.)

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Warren Oates

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:55:43 PM11/11/09
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In article <siegman-438781...@news.stanford.edu>,
AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:

>
> If there's a "Bcc" header, use it instead of the "Cc:" header.

There's a way of doing this where you don't put anything in the To field
except something like "My Friends;" (the semi-colon is important) and
then everything else goes in the Bcc field. I haven't done this for a
while.
--
Suddenly he realized that he was alone
with a giant halfwit on a dark deserted street.
-- Chester Himes

Joe

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:02:21 AM11/12/09
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In article <00f4823e$0$23378$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
<warren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <siegman-438781...@news.stanford.edu>,
> AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > If there's a "Bcc" header, use it instead of the "Cc:" header.
>
> There's a way of doing this where you don't put anything in the To field
> except something like "My Friends;" (the semi-colon is important) and
> then everything else goes in the Bcc field. I haven't done this for a
> while.

Thanks, everybody for the info about Bcc.

Warren, I tried the ; in the To field , with and without other words
preceding it. It didn't work.

--- Joe

Richard Wakeford

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:03:41 AM11/12/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:55:43 -0500, Warren Oates wrote:

> There's a way of doing this where you don't put anything in the To field
> except something like "My Friends;" (the semi-colon is important) and
> then everything else goes in the Bcc field.

Send "To" to yourself and BCC all the rest

Warren Oates

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:16:40 AM11/12/09
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In article <1tcny8jmtlwd0.1j1rp6jw3l9qw$.d...@40tude.net>,
Richard Wakeford <rwakeford...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > There's a way of doing this where you don't put anything in the To field
> > except something like "My Friends;" (the semi-colon is important) and
> > then everything else goes in the Bcc field.
>
> Send "To" to yourself and BCC all the rest

That's the best advice.

To the OP: sorry, I'd forgotten how to do that with the semi-colon
thing. There's some stuff here:

http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/tutorials/mac_bcc.html

looks like it's something like To: myList:; (colon, semi-colon)

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:26:10 AM11/12/09
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Joe <N...@this.address> wrote:

In a new email in Apple Mail use the little popup menu to the left of
from to add the BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) field. Any emails input there
will not be shown to the other recipients. You'll still need something
in the 'To:' field though. I simply add myself there.
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Fred Moore

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:38:10 AM11/12/09
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In article <0077df88$0$23807$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,

Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <1tcny8jmtlwd0.1j1rp6jw3l9qw$.d...@40tude.net>,
> Richard Wakeford <rwakeford...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Send "To" to yourself and BCC all the rest
>
> That's the best advice.

Why bother sending a copy to yourself? You should be getting one in your
Sent folder, unless you have that turned off. There were some old email
apps which required something in the To: line, but they're way obsolete
by now aren't they?

Warren Oates

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:54:59 AM11/12/09
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In article <fmoore-E64687....@feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmo...@gcfn.org> wrote:

> Why bother sending a copy to yourself? You should be getting one in your
> Sent folder, unless you have that turned off. There were some old email
> apps which required something in the To: line, but they're way obsolete
> by now aren't they?

Pay attention Fred.

Joe D

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:12:25 AM11/12/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:26:10 -0500, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
(in article <1j93o2q.kgwfefvovqnbN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>):

In Mail 4.2 (at least; some earlier versions as well) you don't need anything
in the "To" field.

--
Joe Dee from En Wye Cee

Richard Wakeford

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:29:19 AM11/12/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:38:10 -0500, Fred Moore wrote:

> Why bother sending a copy to yourself?

Because then everyone elses address will be hidden. I think (?) you have to
put an address in the To line whatever but could well be wrong.

Fred McKenzie

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:47:46 PM11/12/09
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In article
<Not-111109...@dialup-4.231.168.207.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net>
,
N...@this.address (Joe) wrote:

Joe-

I don't know about your mail program, but some allow you to create
groups. If you could create a group called My Friends, and include all
the addressees as BCC, then it might work.

I have not tried this. It may be necessary to send the mail to the
group as BCC, rather than defining the group as BCC. Now the question
is, will the name of the group appear in the address field of the
received messages?

Fred

Fred Moore

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:49:50 PM11/12/09
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In article <4c6n89d747xn.v5rlcizlt82y$.d...@40tude.net>,
Richard Wakeford <rwakeford...@gmail.com> wrote:

You don't have to enter anything in the To: line in Mail.app (nor in
Thunderbird IIRC). I send mass email to clients that way all the time. I
only put addresses in the Bcc: line, and all are hidden from everyone
but me, the sender. As mentioned, some ISPs have restrictions on how
many addresses can be put in the Bcc: line. Perhaps they also require a
To: entry.

(Okay, Warren, what did I miss? Was this all covered in a previous post
to this thread? If so, my apologies.)

Warren Oates

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:18:15 PM11/12/09
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In article <fmoore-4B63BF....@feeder.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmo...@gcfn.org> wrote:

> (Okay, Warren, what did I miss? Was this all covered in a previous post
> to this thread? If so, my apologies.)

No, I thought you were replying to some other train of thought. In fact,
the easiest way, intuitively, is just to send yourself the To field. Of
course, yeah, you'll wind up with an email you don't need.

Jamie Kahn Genet

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Nov 12, 2009, 5:56:27 PM11/12/09
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Joe D <joe...@invalid.com> wrote:

Handy :-) I could never see the point of the restriction myself. Anyone
know why so many email apps require or used to require this?

Jim Gibson

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:25:10 PM11/12/09
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In article <1j94brb.zn0l51m231qoN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jam...@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Joe D <joe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>

> > In Mail 4.2 (at least; some earlier versions as well) you don't need
> > anything
> > in the "To" field.
>
> Handy :-) I could never see the point of the restriction myself. Anyone
> know why so many email apps require or used to require this?

Because 99% of the time a blank To: field is an error by the user. For
the 1% of the time it makes sense, there is an easy workaround: put
yourself in the To: field.

--
Jim Gibson

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Joe D

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:06:28 PM11/12/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:14:46 -0500, Dave Balderstone wrote
(in article <121120092014465179%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>):

> In article <121120091725102090%jimsg...@gmail.com>, Jim Gibson

> And a blank To: field is often flagged as spam.

When I do this (keep the To: field blank but send to BCCs) my message goes
out with "Undisclosed recipients'" in the To: field. Do they get flagged as
spam as well?

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Warren Oates

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:31:57 AM11/13/09
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In article <121120092209368565%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca>,
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

> If your message has "Undisclosed recipients'" in the To: field then
> the To: field isn't blank. I was referring to a blank To: field.

IF {
you use Eudora
AND
you put all your recipients in the Bcc field
AND
you leave the To field blank
}

Your To field will arrive as "Recipient list suppressed"

http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/tutorials/mac_bcc.html

(makes me nostalgic for that ol' b&w interface ...)

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