[ANN] MacSOUP 2.8.3 available
Stefan Haller
This is a bugfix release, it fixes the following problems:
- Worked around a possible crash on startup with certain kinds of
Address Book corruption.
- With very large Address Books, typing in the address fields of an
email editor window was very sluggish.
- The Services menu now works in Snow Leopard.
- MacSOUP's scripting dictionary can be opened again with the
AppleScript editor in Leopard.
- Minor fixes.
Available from:
<http://www.haller-berlin.de/macsoup/>
(Please note that the home of MacSOUP has changed; the old web-site (at
http://home.snafu.de/stk/) is going to be closed.)
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Gareth Slee
Jamie Kahn Genet
Cheers Stefan for continuing to support my favourite Mac shareware app!
:-)
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Woohoo! One of the bits of shareware I've always been glad I paid for.
iPhone app next, please.
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Jim
> The 2.8.3 version of MacSOUP is available.
Any thoughts on a completely new version, or is time still not there?
Jim
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Jamie Kahn Genet
> Stefan Haller <stk.u...@haller-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> > The 2.8.3 version of MacSOUP is available.
>
> Any thoughts on a completely new version, or is time still not there?
>
> Jim
I'd _kill_ for an updated MacSOUP. Hell - it could even be a _killer_
mailing list focused email client if only it was modernised a little. I
used to use it that way right up till about a year ago, then I had to
give up and use Apple Mail for everything email.
Apple Mail _sucks_ compared to MacSOUP's awesome threading, graphical
thread tree, etc. It is absurb to my mind that MacSOUP is a better plain
text email client than Mail :-(
Jim Higgins
Can it import mail folders, a lot of them, and messages from
Thunderbird? The site mentioned it was an offline newsreader. Is that a
typo? I would much rather read online than off.
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Richard Maine
> Can it import mail folders, a lot of them, and messages from
> Thunderbird?
I don't use MacSOUP for email, so I'm no help there.
> The site mentioned it was an offline newsreader. Is that a
> typo? I would much rather read online than off.
The description about being offline is a litle misleading. That use to
put me off as well. It kept me from trying MacSOUP for quite a while.
But it doesn't really mean what one might at first think, and I'm glad I
eventually tried it.
I also do all my newsreading "online" in that I download and read it
right away rather than saving it to read sometime later. Essentially,
the "offline part" just means that you do have the two steps of download
and read. But it is pretty painless. One command downloads all of the
news you have subscribed to. Then you read it at will (usually right
then). Then check for more that just case in if you like.
A benefit is that rereading an old article is instantaneous because a
copy is kept on your machine (up to a retention period that you can
specify).
There are a few things I find annoying about MacSOUP. I won't detail
them here right now. They are mostly pretty trivial. The whole SOUP part
is about some protocol that I've never otherwise heard of and don't use;
seems odd to name the product around it. The graphical thread display is
great; I've not seen anything else that is as good. That is *THE* reason
to use MacSOUP.
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TaliesinSoft
<1jat65b.a2voct1swqgxeN%nos...@see.signature>):
[commenting on MacSOUP]
> The graphical thread display is great; I've not seen anything else that is
> as good. That is *THE* reason to use MacSOUP.
How does the graphical thread display in MacSOUP differ from that provided in
Hogwasher?
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Jim Higgins
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Ruddell
(in article <0001HW.C74E757C...@News.Individual.NET>):
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:41:28 -0600, Richard Maine wrote (in article
> <1jat65b.a2voct1swqgxeN%nos...@see.signature>):
>
> [commenting on MacSOUP]
>
>> The graphical thread display is great; I've not seen anything else that is
>> as good. That is *THE* reason to use MacSOUP.
>
> How does the graphical thread display in MacSOUP differ from that provided in
> Hogwasher?
Good question. I've always been happy with Hogwasher since I found out about
it (here) and don't see a need to change. The off line usage is only
beneficial for those who still use a dial up connection with limited time per
month or just to free up their phones. But Hogwasher has always had that
anyway...
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Jim Higgins
Do you know if Hogwasher imports Thunderbird (2.0.0.23) email, Local
Folders and address book? I briefly tried T'Bird 3 and went right back to 2.
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Richard Maine
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:41:28 -0600, Richard Maine wrote (in article
> <1jat65b.a2voct1swqgxeN%nos...@see.signature>):
>
> [commenting on MacSOUP]
>
> > The graphical thread display is great; I've not seen anything else that is
> > as good. That is *THE* reason to use MacSOUP.
>
> How does the graphical thread display in MacSOUP differ from that provided in
> Hogwasher?
It is simillar. I forget the exact details as it has been a long time
since I looked at Hogwasher. I did spend quite a bit of time looking at
Hogwasher once, its thread display being a big plus. I seem to recall
thinking that MacSOUP's was better, but HogWasher's was at least in the
ballpark. (So was Nemo's, but that was so bugy that I couldn't use it).
There were other things that I decided ruled it out for me, but I don't
any more recall the details. I do recall thinking I should see whether
the "promissed" new version was going to fix my complaints, but
eventually the lack of delivery of the new version became a significant
complaint all on its own. It has *LONG* pased the point where I have any
interest at all in hearing that maybe they are actually going to release
it soon. If I hear that it has been released, I'll take a new look. No
need to tell me it will be "soon", next week, or even tomorrow; as long
as it is in the future at all, I'm not interested. The 3 years waiting
(and still counting) doesn't make me very encouraged about support
either. They didn't even have a minor bug fix release in 3 years? Is
that because there aren't any bugs? I doubt it.
I can't readily recheck-out Hogwasher, as I did the trial thing before,
that expired, and that seems to get in the way of trying it again. I
once briefly tried to figure out where Hogwasher stores the trial
expiration info, but I gave up before finding it.
Jamie Kahn Genet
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> > Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Stefan Haller <stk.u...@haller-berlin.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The 2.8.3 version of MacSOUP is available.
> >> Any thoughts on a completely new version, or is time still not there?
> >>
> >> Jim
> >
> > I'd _kill_ for an updated MacSOUP. Hell - it could even be a _killer_
> > mailing list focused email client if only it was modernised a little. I
> > used to use it that way right up till about a year ago, then I had to
> > give up and use Apple Mail for everything email.
> >
> > Apple Mail _sucks_ compared to MacSOUP's awesome threading, graphical
> > thread tree, etc. It is absurb to my mind that MacSOUP is a better plain
> > text email client than Mail :-(
>
> Can it import mail folders, a lot of them, and messages from
> Thunderbird?
Not in any easily automated way I'm aware of. But I say again MacSOUP's
email client is _very_ bare bones and plain text. I put up with it far
longer than anyone else I know, because of the excellent true
references-based threading, thread tree, great regular expressions
filtering, and MacSOUP's simple, uncluttered, easy to use, if somewhat
non-stantard UI. Now I subscribe to too many mailing lists with HTML
(ugg) and attachments in the messages to make it worthwhile.
> The site mentioned it was an offline newsreader. Is that a typo? I would
> much rather read online than off.
No, not a typo. It's only offline as a POP email client is compared to
webmail. The advantage is you can read downloaded articles, and compose
and queue messages without requiring an internet connection. That's a
lot less useful nowadays with high speed broadband and WiFi most places,
but what's _still_ handy is the speed of reading news.
Just as with a POP email client - there's zero delay opening groups and
articles and running a search, because it's been downloaded and stored
locally. Not like you'd get with webmail where there's a noticeable
delay every time you do something, as a connection is made and data is
transfered across the 'net.
J.P. Kuypers
<1jasft2.1w46mf41trzz0kN%stk.u...@haller-berlin.de>, Stefan Haller
<stk.u...@haller-berlin.de> wrote (�crivait)�:
> The 2.8.3 version of MacSOUP is available.
The French version, F-2.8.3, of MacSOUP is now available at
<ftp://ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/News/MacSOUP/>.
And maybe soon on one of the mirrors :
<ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/Mac/UCL/>
<ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be/pub/>
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Paul Fuchs
MacSoup has been around for a while. I bought my copy when I was living
in the Caribbean, on a tight budget, and paying 10 cents a minute to
connect to my ISP via long distance dial-up. Couldn't have afforded
usenet an other way. Grew to love the program even after I got DSL.
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Steen
> The 2.8.3 version of MacSOUP is available.
Just reading through the manual, and stumbled on this
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2576680/shortcuts.jpg
If "Return" is the "broken arrow", what is the "Enter" key?
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Anders Eklöf
It may not be present on all keyboards...
On a numeric keypad, it's the lower right key.
On my MacBook from 2006, it's next to the right Apple key.
The symbol look like a seesaw.
I just learned a new English word! :-)
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David Empson
Go to Mac Help in Finder and search for "Key Symbols".
Enter looks like a caret with a broken horizontal line on top.
Sort of like this, but closer together:
_ _
^
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Steen
> I just learned a new English word! :-)
I'm not english-speaking either, so I know how you feel ;-)
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Steen
I get it - on my MavBook it's fn+Return
That certainly helps in MacSOUP. Thanks for the info
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