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Ren� Logeais

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Dec 15, 2009, 11:52:56 AM12/15/09
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I had to retrieve my main identity database from a backup, but instead
of being a mbox file it is now a text file (750 MB), which is unusable.
How do I convert that text file to an mbox format?
I've tried the rebuilding feature in Entourage (2004), but it makes no
difference.

Ren�

Jolly Roger

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:42:19 PM12/15/09
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<renlog-51A4C1....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:

Assuming whatever method you used to transfer the file to and from
whatever backup medium you used didn't corrupt the file, it sounds like
you may simply need to assign the HFS file type "OEDB" and the HFS
creator code "OPIM" to the file.

I see various utilities on macupdate.com to do this, but most are
shareware. I prefer to just use AppleScript to do it for free,
personally. Here's a script that will do it (I provide a download link
for the script at the end of this message for your convenience):

-- begin script
-- get file
set inFile to choose file with prompt "Choose the file whose file type
and creator type you want to change:"

-- get file information
tell application "Finder"
set inFilename to name of inFile
set inType to file type of inFile
set inCreator to creator type of inFile
end tell

-- handle case where file has no type or creator
if inType is missing value then set inType to ""
if inCreator is missing value then set inCreator to ""

-- ask user for file type
set dResult to display dialog ("Change the file type of " & inFilename &
" to:") with title "Change File Type" default answer inType
set outType to dResult's text returned

-- ask user for creator
set dResult to display dialog ("Change the creator type of " &
inFilename & " to:") with title "Change File Creator" default answer
inCreator
set outCreator to dResult's text returned

-- no need to set them if nothing changed
if inType is outType then set outType to ""
if inCreator is outCreator then set outCreator to ""

-- set file type and creator
tell application "Finder"
if outType is not "" then set file type of inFile to outType
if outCreator is not "" then set creator type of inFile to
outCreator
end tell
-- end script

Get it here:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/software/ChangeFileAndCreatorTypes.zip>

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Tom Stiller

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Dec 15, 2009, 1:08:25 PM12/15/09
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Entourage mail is not stored in "mbox" files. There are two files
associated with Entourage mail:
"Database" and "Database Cache".

How did you back up the database and how did you retrieve it?

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Ren� Logeais

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:01:43 PM12/15/09
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In article <tom_stiller-84DF...@news.individual.net>,
Tom Stiller <tom_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article
> <renlog-51A4C1....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
> Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> > I had to retrieve my main identity database from a backup, but instead
> > of being a mbox file it is now a text file (750 MB), which is unusable.
> > How do I convert that text file to an mbox format?
> > I've tried the rebuilding feature in Entourage (2004), but it makes no
> > difference.
> >
> > Ren�
>
> Entourage mail is not stored in "mbox" files. There are two files
> associated with Entourage mail:
> "Database" and "Database Cache".
>
> How did you back up the database and how did you retrieve it?

I normally back up the entire Office 2004 Identities folder to an
external drive.
I've had to reinstall Office several times before, and normally I just
need to replace the new folder with the one I had previously backed up,
and I'm back in business.
This time it didn't work.
The only identities that will work are those that are indicated as
"backed up", like [Backed up 3-26-2008 17. 8].
I don't recall doing anything to back these things up within Entourage.
My main identity (going back 2 years ago!) doesn't indicate any backup,
and this is also the one where the database is not in the right format.

My second backup system is online with Mozy.
Even if I retrieve an Office 2004 Identities folder I backed up 2 months
ago the database is still wrong.

The mystery is that up until a few days ago (before I reinstalled
Office) that Identity was working fine, even though that same file was
apparently being backed up in the wrong format.

The only thing that was different this time from a simple reinstall of
Office is that I actually reinstalled my entire system, replacing Tiger
with Leopard in a clean install, but I don' see how that would have any
effect on the database file.

I'm stumped.

Ren� Logeais

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:02:27 PM12/15/09
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In article <jollyroger-88543...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:


Well, that script does turn the text file into a file that looks exactly
like an Entourage database file of the same size, but Entourage doesn't
recognize it.
Get Info tells me that it's a document, as opposed to a real database
file which is identified in Get Info as a Microsoft Entourage Database.

Jolly Roger

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Dec 15, 2009, 4:53:05 PM12/15/09
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In article
<renlog-A3CD42....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:

Then whatever transfer method and backup medium you used corrupted the
file somehow.

Care to share with us what exactly you did to back this file up? Or will
this forever be a mystery? ; )

Ren� Logeais

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:12:34 PM12/15/09
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In article <jollyroger-53356...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article
> <renlog-A3CD42....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
> Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, that script does turn the text file into a file that looks exactly
> > like an Entourage database file of the same size, but Entourage doesn't
> > recognize it.
> > Get Info tells me that it's a document, as opposed to a real database
> > file which is identified in Get Info as a Microsoft Entourage Database.
>
> Then whatever transfer method and backup medium you used corrupted the
> file somehow.
>
> Care to share with us what exactly you did to back this file up? Or will
> this forever be a mystery? ; )

Well, I did answer that (if you care to read my reply to Tom Stiller).
I backed up both to an external drive and to an online service (Mozy).
I don't know about Mozy, but I never had any problem before with files
that were backed up on my external drive.
I have a feeling something happened within Entourage.

Jolly Roger

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:16:36 PM12/15/09
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In article
<renlog-5B349B....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-53356...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <renlog-A3CD42....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
> > Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, that script does turn the text file into a file that looks exactly
> > > like an Entourage database file of the same size, but Entourage doesn't
> > > recognize it.
> > > Get Info tells me that it's a document, as opposed to a real database
> > > file which is identified in Get Info as a Microsoft Entourage Database.
> >
> > Then whatever transfer method and backup medium you used corrupted the
> > file somehow.
> >
> > Care to share with us what exactly you did to back this file up? Or will
> > this forever be a mystery? ; )
>
> Well, I did answer that (if you care to read my reply to Tom Stiller).
> I backed up both to an external drive and to an online service (Mozy).
> I don't know about Mozy, but I never had any problem before with files
> that were backed up on my external drive.
> I have a feeling something happened within Entourage.

Was the external drive formatted with a Mac format like HFS+, or a
Windows format like FAT?

Was Entourage running when you copied the database to the external drive?

Ren� Logeais

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Dec 15, 2009, 11:15:40 PM12/15/09
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In article <jollyroger-66D20...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

Mac format.
Like I said, I've never had any problem using files backed up on it, and
that includes the Entourage database.

>
> Was Entourage running when you copied the database to the external drive?

That I don't know. It's unlikely, but it could have been running during
the very last backup which I did manually.
But that won't explain why older backups are corrupted as well.
My files are backed up automatically every morning to that drive AND to
Mozy, before I even wake up (and since I shut down the mac at night,
Entourage is most certainly not running at that time.)
Now, I may have somehow messed up the backup to the hard drive, but that
shouldn't affect the same files backed up on Mozy at a previous date.

Mad Prof

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:35:25 PM12/18/09
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Ren� Logeais <ren...@pipeline.com> wrote:

> The mystery is that up until a few days ago (before I reinstalled
> Office) that Identity was working fine

Hi, have you updated Office after you reinstalled it...?

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Fabrizio

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