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jdear

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Mar 18, 2011, 10:48:37 AM3/18/11
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MuahMan

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Mar 18, 2011, 11:34:35 AM3/18/11
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On Mar 18, 10:48 am, jdear <jdea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countrie...
>
> hehe

Windows US Market share 90%...... for THREE DECADES

hehe

Chance Furlong

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:14:56 PM3/18/11
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On 3/18/11 10:34 AM, MuahMan wrote:

> Windows US Market share 90% for three decades.

You are wrong again, Pratt.

Lloyd Parsons

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Mar 18, 2011, 2:21:44 PM3/18/11
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In article <dc6dnc1hjsO9PB7Q...@giganews.com>,
Chance Furlong <T-B...@megakatcity.com> wrote:

More like 'still wrong'... :)

--
Lloyd


MuahMan

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:06:57 PM3/18/11
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True.

Windows World Market Share 95% for THREE DECADES

LOL @ OS X the forgotten bastard child of OSes.

Steve de Mena

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Mar 18, 2011, 5:26:14 PM3/18/11
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On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-the-planet/
>
> hehe

They say they got the % from StatCounter. Who are they?

Steve

Alan Baker

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Mar 18, 2011, 5:28:12 PM3/18/11
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In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7Q...@giganews.com>,

Why don't you click on the link...

http://gs.statcounter.com/

...that was in the article...

...and find out?

:-)

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ZnU

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Mar 18, 2011, 6:36:29 PM3/18/11
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In article
<12905177-b9e7-499d...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
>,
jdear <jde...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-the-
> planet/
>
> hehe

It's amazing how little this kind of per-country data gets circulated. It
paints a very different picture from the "3% world market share"
nonsense the Wintrolls are constantly pushing. Turns out what that
mostly means is Macs aren't used much in the developing world. Which is
not, as far as I can see, something US or European consumers have any
particular reason to care about.

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Alan Baker

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Mar 18, 2011, 5:44:57 PM3/18/11
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In article <znu-40A413.1...@Port80.Individual.NET>,
ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <12905177-b9e7-499d...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com
> >,
> jdear <jde...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-th
> > e-
> > planet/
> >
> > hehe
>
> It's amazing how little this kind of per-country data gets circulated. It
> paints a very different picture from the "3% world market share"
> nonsense the Wintrolls are constantly pushing. Turns out what that
> mostly means is Macs aren't used much in the developing world. Which is
> not, as far as I can see, something US or European consumers have any
> particular reason to care about.

It's hardly surprising.

Go to the poor parts of the world, and the expensive quality products of
very kind are going to be much less evident.

But where people can afford to buy better, they do.

Tommy Troll

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Mar 19, 2011, 1:43:40 PM3/19/11
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Market share is not quite the same as share of Web hits. For starters,
a good share of Windows machines in the enterprise don't even access
the Web. Sorry, you lose.

Redjak

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Mar 19, 2011, 2:23:14 PM3/19/11
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7Q...@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:

> On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-th
> > e-planet/
> >
> > hehe
>
> They say they got the % from StatCounter. Who are they?
>
> Steve

>Why don't you click on the link...

>http://gs.statcounter.com/

>...that was in the article...

>...and find out?

Shows Mac as 5.56% Worldwide. Impressive to the brain dead. Not so much to
everyone else.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201002-201102

Lloyd Parsons

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Mar 19, 2011, 2:24:27 PM3/19/11
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In article <im2sah$nff$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-CF5C3...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7Q...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> > > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-
> > > th
> > > e-planet/
> > >
> > > hehe
> >
> > They say they got the % from StatCounter. Who are they?
> >
> > Steve
>
> >Why don't you click on the link...
>
> >http://gs.statcounter.com/
>
> >...that was in the article...
>
> >...and find out?
>
> Shows Mac as 5.56% Worldwide. Impressive to the brain dead. Not so much to
> everyone else.
>
> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201002-201102
>
> :-)

Market share with low profits ain't such a big deal. What is a big deal
is low market share with huge profits!

--
Lloyd


Alan Baker

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Mar 19, 2011, 4:55:30 PM3/19/11
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In article <im2sah$nff$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-CF5C3...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7Q...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> > > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-
> > > th
> > > e-planet/
> > >
> > > hehe
> >
> > They say they got the % from StatCounter. Who are they?
> >
> > Steve
>
> >Why don't you click on the link...
>
> >http://gs.statcounter.com/
>
> >...that was in the article...
>
> >...and find out?
>
> Shows Mac as 5.56% Worldwide. Impressive to the brain dead. Not so much to
> everyone else.
>
> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201002-201102
>
> :-)

So you accept that figure, but are you denying their figures for the US
and Canada?

Redjak

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Mar 19, 2011, 5:21:33 PM3/19/11
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"Lloyd Parsons" wrote in message
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A "big deal" to who? Shareholders? Are you one? Or consumers who are
paying more for "always broke"?
--
Lloyd

Redjak

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Mar 19, 2011, 5:24:31 PM3/19/11
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message

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In article <im2sah$nff$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-CF5C3...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7Q...@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> > > http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countries-on-
> > > th
> > > e-planet/
> > >
> > > hehe
> >
> > They say they got the % from StatCounter. Who are they?
> >
> > Steve
>
> >Why don't you click on the link...
>
> >http://gs.statcounter.com/
>
> >...that was in the article...
>
> >...and find out?
>
> Shows Mac as 5.56% Worldwide. Impressive to the brain dead. Not so much
> to
> everyone else.
>
> http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201002-201102
>
> :-)

>So you accept that figure, but are you denying their figures for the US
>and Canada?

The US and especially shit hole Canada, are not the world, fucking Moron.

It's 360 Million vs. 6.9 BILLION, stupid fuck.

Lloyd Parsons

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Mar 19, 2011, 7:09:48 PM3/19/11
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In article <im36os$uja$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Shareholders for sure care a lot about. So does the company management
and employees.

As a user, I get to benefit from their ability to provide a better
widget.

You get to bitch! :)

--
Lloyd


MuahMan

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Mar 19, 2011, 7:55:35 PM3/19/11
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On Mar 19, 2:24 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <im2sah$nf...@news.eternal-september.org>,

>
>
>
>
>
>  "Redjak" <redjack...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
> >news:alangbaker-CF5C3...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> > In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7QnZ2dnUVZ_vadn...@giganews.com>,

> > Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 3/18/11 7:48 AM, jdear wrote:
> > > >http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/03/16/the-10-most-mac-friendly-countrie...

> > > > th
> > > > e-planet/
>
> > > > hehe
>
> > > They say they got the % from StatCounter.  Who are they?
>
> > > Steve
>
> > >Why don't you click on the link...
>
> > >http://gs.statcounter.com/
>
> > >...that was in the article...
>
> > >...and find out?
>
> > Shows Mac as 5.56% Worldwide.  Impressive to the brain dead.  Not so much to
> > everyone else.
>
> >http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201002-201102
>
> > :-)
>
> Market share with low profits ain't such a big deal.  What is a big deal
> is low market share with huge profits!
>
> --
> Lloyd- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Again? Why do I care that Apple is ripping people off? How does Apple
making huge markups on tech illiterate customers mean anything good
for consumers. I'll take the market share. The one with the huge
market share (90% +/-) is the one the developers will make stuff for,
the peripherals come out for. Everything comes out for Windows first,
OS X is an afterthought for developers. For Apple they have the market
share for MP3's players and they have all the peripherals, while the
Zune is the afterthought. Personally I don't care about kids toys like
MP3 players, I do care about computers; where MSFT utterly dominates
the world in every way, shape, and form.

MuahMan

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Mar 19, 2011, 7:56:39 PM3/19/11
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On Mar 19, 7:09 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <im36os$uj...@news.eternal-september.org>,

>
>
>
>
>
>  "Redjak" <redjack...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Lloyd Parsons"  wrote in message
> >news:lloydparsons-D76C...@port80.individual.net...
>
> > In article <im2sah$nf...@news.eternal-september.org>,

> > "Redjak" <redjack...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > "Alan Baker"  wrote in message
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> > > In article <7ZCdnczERZBrUB7QnZ2dnUVZ_vadn...@giganews.com>,
Apple doesn't do widgets. Just static rows of boring icons ala Windows
3.1. If you want widgets you gotta use Android or WP7.

Redjak

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Mar 19, 2011, 9:42:29 PM3/19/11
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"Lloyd Parsons" wrote in message

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Apple is geared to the young and ignorant, and the old and senile.

>You get to bitch! :)

I'm happy with my Dells. They "just work".

Alan Baker

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Mar 19, 2011, 9:45:06 PM3/19/11
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In article <im36ue$ut3$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

So? Do you accept the figures for the US and Canada?

MuahMan

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Mar 19, 2011, 11:42:00 PM3/19/11
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> the world in every way, shape, and form.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Crickets Chirping

ZnU

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Mar 20, 2011, 1:22:30 AM3/20/11
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In article
<31f59f30-4e19-4d79...@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

As Android vs. iOS has demonstrated, market share doesn't necessarily
translate into sales for third-party developers in a linear fashion.

[snip]

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 2:01:08 AM3/20/11
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On Mar 20, 1:22 am, ZnU <z...@fake.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <31f59f30-4e19-4d79-81a6-925ecf481...@f18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,

Utterly and completely assinine comparison as Android has just started
taking off. Lets see what the landscape looks like in a year or two
when Android has a 90% market share like Windows.

Nigel Ratburn

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Mar 20, 2011, 5:05:35 AM3/20/11
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On 3/20/11 1:01 AM, MuahMan wrote:

> Utterly and completely assinine comparison as Android has just started taking off.

The correct spelling is asinine.

-hh

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:36:31 AM3/20/11
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So....you're claiming that Android is going to have 90% marketshare in
"a year or two"?

Hm.

How about June 30th, 2012 as the exact date to be used?
What do you want to use as the authoritative source for 'market
share'?
And what independent & trustworthy third party do you suggest to hold
the bet?


-hh

Redjak

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Mar 20, 2011, 10:37:40 AM3/20/11
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message

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I don't accept the figures given in the OP which states "Mac US market share
15.36%".

So now you have changed that in typical Eel fashion to include Canada.

Perhaps you should also add Japan. You would eke out a couple of more
percent.

End.

ZnU

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Mar 20, 2011, 12:37:57 PM3/20/11
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In article
<c992807b-9bbd-4692...@v8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

Android has similar unit sales to iOS, over 130K apps, and ~1/16 of the
app store revenue.

No doubt things will improve somewhat, but given that Android sales
probably skew much higher in the developing world (where Android
handsets might not even be used with data plans), and that a lot of
cheaper Android handsets are sold essentially as flashier feature
phones, it seems unlikely the gap will fully close.

There is probably a gap with Windows as well. Not enough to make total
Windows application revenues lower than total Mac application revenues,
given the market share advantage Windows has. But the Mac market has
better demographics (price alone is enough to ensure that), and Mac
users, having gone out of their way to pick an alternative platform,
will care more about their computing experience than Windows users on
average. Plus, there's now the Mac App Store, which dramatically lowers
the barrier to entry for smaller developers. I wouldn't be very
surprised if all of this gave the Mac a 2:1 advantage on a per-unit
basis. Meaning the Mac could easily account for something like ~30% of
third-party software revenue in the US consumer market.

But really, even that's fairly meaningless. You Wintrolls always like to
look at overall market share, but this is a virtually useless statistic,
because actual products sell into _specific_ markets. If you're writing
accounting software, Windows should rather obviously be your primary
target platform; not many accountants use Macs. In contrast, if you're
writing software relevant to video editors or graphic designers, Apple
has over 50% market share there -- you'd be better off making the Mac
your primary target platform.

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 12:58:07 PM3/20/11
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> -hh- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes. Android will have 90% market share of smartphones by March 20,
2013. Once again Apple will be the bastard step child in the back of
the room. You fuckheads should be used to that by now. Your OS of
choice is crap that nobody uses.

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 3:46:05 PM3/20/11
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In article
<eb2fa625-dff4-4217...@gn5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

So your "in a year or two" has now become "after a full two years", has
it?

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 3:46:45 PM3/20/11
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In article <im53fj$n3t$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Redjak" <redja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why not? The source is exactly the same as the figure you accept for
world market share.

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:42:16 PM3/20/11
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On Mar 20, 3:46 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <eb2fa625-dff4-4217-8ea7-ed856add2...@gn5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

Yes, we have to be specific down to the second or you guys will try
and get out of it. Someone will have to hold the money and some non
Mac user will have to hold the the stopwatch because you guys can't be
trusted. We need to know the EXACT version number since I guess 10.2
doesn't count... well.... because..... the Apphole say it doesn't. LOL

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:45:37 PM3/20/11
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In article
<2cbea420-0f8e-421a...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

The average of "a year or two" would be 18 months, Pratt-fall. Aren't
you confident enough to put your prediction in the middle of your
suggest range. If two full years is what you want to go with, then your
initial claim should have been "in 18 to 30 months".

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:50:36 PM3/20/11
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On Mar 20, 4:45 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <2cbea420-0f8e-421a-8283-d377a50f0...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Doesn't matter. You guys are slipperly lying scumbags that cannot be
trusted. I mean you WILLINGLY buy Apple products built by little child
slaves, you're scumbags.

We need an EXACT version number that you will accept as Flash, even
though Flash is working 100% perfectly on Android since the 18th and
you already lost the bet. But being as that you are so fucking stupid,
I'll make another one. What version will you accept as Flash? Flash
10.3? Flash 10.4? Which one, they all do EXACTLY the same thing. What
is the EXACT date you think it will be available, or are you saying it
won't come at all. I'll also bet you that by the end of the year Flash
will be stock on every current Android device while it's still
completely unavailable for iOS unless you some Afro-engineered 3rd
party crap like Swifter.

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:52:59 PM3/20/11
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In article
<65f770c0-a013-4dec...@t16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

You "WILLINGLY" by products made in the very same plants.

>
> We need an EXACT version number that you will accept as Flash, even
> though Flash is working 100% perfectly on Android since the 18th and
> you already lost the bet. But being as that you are so fucking stupid,
> I'll make another one. What version will you accept as Flash? Flash
> 10.3? Flash 10.4? Which one, they all do EXACTLY the same thing. What
> is the EXACT date you think it will be available, or are you saying it
> won't come at all. I'll also bet you that by the end of the year Flash
> will be stock on every current Android device while it's still
> completely unavailable for iOS unless you some Afro-engineered 3rd
> party crap like Swifter.

How about a version that doesn't say "PreRelease" right on it? Because
the pre-release version they've shipped doesn't do what they say the
release version will do: play back video properly.

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 5:10:54 PM3/20/11
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On Mar 20, 4:52 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <65f770c0-a013-4dec-8351-3097619c2...@t16g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

Proof? Oh you're lying again.


>
>
> > We need an EXACT version number that you will accept as Flash, even
> > though Flash is working 100% perfectly on Android since the 18th and
> > you already lost the bet. But being as that you are so fucking stupid,
> > I'll make another one.  What version will you accept as Flash? Flash
> > 10.3? Flash 10.4? Which one, they all do EXACTLY the same thing. What
> > is the EXACT date you think it will be available, or are you saying it
> > won't come at all. I'll also bet you that by the end of the year Flash
> > will be stock on every current Android device while it's still
> > completely unavailable for iOS unless you some Afro-engineered 3rd
> > party crap like Swifter.
>
> How about a version that doesn't say "PreRelease" right on it? Because
> the pre-release version they've shipped doesn't do what they say the
> release version will do: play back video properly.
>

What's the word that follows "Pre"? Oh that's right RELEASE. As in
this has been RELEASED. Let me get the definition of RELEASE for
you... one second.

And OMG, holy shit. I'm watching Flash stuff in my browser just like
on my desktop. I can my fantasy baseball draft next week now without
some god damned 3rd party app. I can show off properties on the
virtual reality websites right in the browswer. Have fun flipping
through hundreds of pages of static icons. LOL. Oh shit, i forgot you
don't own an iOS product other than an MP3 players. LOLZ

Redjak

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:07:11 PM3/20/11
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message

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Another goalpost move!!!!!! How many times can you pull that old trick?

-hh

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Mar 20, 2011, 7:35:15 PM3/20/11
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Well, the whole point of nailing down specifics is that the "lying
scumbags" are the ones who will try to welch.

So far, you've only committed to two parameters, even though it is
noted that you've already hedged your bet to the maximum extent
possible.


-hh

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 11:17:49 PM3/20/11
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In article
<4366a1ae-29d6-4762...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

Let the definition of "pre-release" be posted.

>
> And OMG, holy shit. I'm watching Flash stuff in my browser just like
> on my desktop. I can my fantasy baseball draft next week now without

Not "just like on your desktop". Not as smoothly for 480p and
essentially not at all for anything higher.

Hence: "pre-release".

MuahMan

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Mar 20, 2011, 11:20:40 PM3/20/11
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On Mar 20, 11:17 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4366a1ae-29d6-4762-8784-cfee8063d...@cu4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
It's a baseball draft in Flash. There's no video. You have no idea
what Flash even is do you?

Alan Baker

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Mar 20, 2011, 11:24:48 PM3/20/11
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In article
<bb9eee28-26dd-4268...@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
MuahMan <mua...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > And OMG, holy shit. I'm watching Flash stuff in my browser just like
> > > on my desktop. I can my fantasy baseball draft next week now without
> >
> > Not "just like on your desktop". Not as smoothly for 480p and
> > essentially not at all for anything higher.
> >
> It's a baseball draft in Flash. There's no video. You have no idea
> what Flash even is do you?

You didn't any "I'm watching Flash stuff that is just my baseball
fantasy draft", Pratt-fall.

MuahMan

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On Mar 20, 11:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <bb9eee28-26dd-4268-99e4-038f31256...@m7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > And OMG, holy shit. I'm watching Flash stuff in my browser just like
> > > > on my desktop. I can my fantasy baseball draft next week now without
>
> > > Not "just like on your desktop". Not as smoothly for 480p and
> > > essentially not at all for anything higher.
>
> > It's a baseball draft in Flash. There's no video. You have no idea
> > what Flash even is do you?
>
> You didn't any "I'm watching Flash stuff that is just my baseball
> fantasy draft", Pratt-fall.
>
Is there anyone here that speaks Dumbfuck 3rd World Canadian, that can
translate shithead's last post?
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