OT:Snit's false bravado exposed... again... will "Joel" back him... again? Pt.2
Steve Carroll
"pfffffttttt. yeah right. but besides that, what ever happened to
your vegas trip? time for you to put up or shut up- turns out a
couple buddies of mine are gonna road trip it out to vegas for the
superbowl next weekend, and i'll likely go with them. if you weren't
totally making crap up about going there and willing to meet steve,
here's your big chance to prove it! let me know where you'll be, and
i'll be glad to take 2 minutes out of my busy betting schedule to
verify you're not full ot if! what d'ya say? "
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0aec537ef4d2d95d?hl=en&dmode=source
And continuing on in the same thread... Snit, who at one point claimed
he would be "happy" to meet with me, finally showed what he was made
of. As is his way... Snit writes reams of BS back to ed:
"While I find it entertaining and sometimes even mentally stimulating
to argue with people who are playing the role of bullies in here, I do
not have any desire to meet anyone face-to-face. I tend to use
bullies' own tactics against them: all but the most extreme or
immature generally back down - let's face it, bullies are bullies
because they are used to people fearing them and running (in a
metaphorical sense on Usenet). In a Usenet group that generally
equates with people being fearful of being verbally "abuse" by the
bully or bullies. The basic tactics of Usenet bullies are to use
logical fallacies, side issues, or semantic games to try to make the
victim look bad. While annoying and not generally my style, to me all
of this is fair game in Usenet. In csma it is even expected... seems
half the purpose of this group is to try to make others look bad.
Anything outside of that - such as when people try to entice others to
meet them in person, when people threaten others in any physical way,
when people threaten actions that would affect someone's life outside
of Usenet, or when people show that they are actively trying to track
someone else down in the real world - shows that the person in
question may be more than just a bull-headed poster or bully. They
*may* be a real and present danger to others.
I have made mistakes in respect to people who potentially fit this
category. It is now clear to me that this was an error on my part. As
experience has shown, there are people who will become so caught up in
this "detached" world of Usenet that they look to bring it to the
"real" world, and often they wish to do so in a very unhealthy and
potentially dangerous way.
I am not suggesting that I feel you personally are a danger, but I
have no
intention of meeting you face-to-face."
And ed, having spotted Snit's BS for the *obvious* BS that it was
replied:
"hey, i was just offering you a chance to put up for once, since i was
going to be in vegas anyways. but as i suspected, you were full of
crap all along and never intended to put up, so hopefully you'll at
least shut up. but i noticed rather than a simple "i'll be there", or
a "no, i admit that i, snit, is a big fat liar and won't be there",
you did just what you claimed what "the bullies" were doing- tried to
turn it into a side issue. as for safety, i'll likely be at the
venetian sports book most of super bowl sunday, and you're free to
stop by; if you have any issues w/ fearing for your safety at a large
well established casino, you've got much larger issues in your life
that you need to deal with. "
Snit to ed:
"I see you have completely missed the point of my comments.
ed broke in with a reality Snit didn't even try to face:
"oh no, i got the point- you talked a lot of smack you never intended
to back up. your comment above- "I tend to use bullies' own tactics
against them: all but the most extreme or immature generally back
down" implies that it was a lie to begin with and you were just
attempting to call steve out. "
Snit to ed
"I will not be meeting you or anyone else from this group. Proving
some point to you is not worth the risk of someone attempting to
pursue fallacious charges. If I were to meet you, you could claim I
was trying to do you harm.
ed broke in with:
"hey, i'll say right here for all the world to see- i'll make no such
charges. "
Snit to ed:
"... of course the evidence would not support that (I am not), but it
is not worth the risk.
ed broke in with:
"there would be no such risk, as i'll be at the venetian sports book;
there's gotta be thousands of cameras at the venetian, so the only
risks of false charges would be in your delusions."
Snit to ed:
"If you have been reading the current soap opera in here, and are a
reasonable person, I am sure you can understand why I would feel this
way about people in general from this group. I have nothing personal
against you.
Anyway, I *hate* casinos. The smell of the smoke and the glazed over
look of the gamblers is about as close to hell as I can imagine. When
I go to Vegas, which I do several times a year, I do not even go to
movies there - as most theaters are located in casinos. Even finding
non-smoking restaurants can be a challenge. I go there to visit
people I know, or, occasionally, for work."
ed to Snit:
"yup, just like i thought- you were full of crap."
Snit to ed:
"Your complete inability to understand what I am saying says much more
about you than it does about me.
Even if I were to still be willing to meet Steve (which at this point
I am not), who said anything about meeting *you*? Why would I want to
waste one minute of my time to visit you, especially when it has
become so painfully clear how people in the group can threaten true,
real-world, harm on others?
Your attempt to embarrass me (or whatever) to come meet you in some
smoky hell-hole really does not entice me at all."
ed to Snit:
"no, no, i get it, you're full of crap."
Snit to ed:
"Are you really as dense as you are pretending to be? Just curious."
ed to Snit:
"oh, i see what you're trying to do jus tfine, but i'm just cutting
through all the crap you're spewing in your pitiful attempt to
rationalize your way out of the bullshit you spewed."
Snit to ed:
"I think it is clear. You really are that dense, or are just
insisting on playing the part. I have seen you post somewhat
intelligent things in here, so I would guess you are just playing
dense to get a rise out of me.
Is it working in your eyes? Maybe this will help...
No no no no no! Please take it all back. Say you are sorry. Make it
all go away!
There... is that what you were looking for?"
Andy sane, honest and honorable individual can easily see how Snit's
attempt to use his "psych degree" on ed failed... as it would fail on
anyone with a working brain and an IQ higher than 37;)
Steve Carroll
> ed to Snit:
> "pfffffttttt. yeah right. but besides that, what ever happened to
> your vegas trip? time for you to put up or shut up- turns out a
> couple buddies of mine are gonna road trip it out to vegas for the
> superbowl next weekend, and i'll likely go with them. if you weren't
> totally making crap up about going there and willing to meet steve,
> here's your big chance to prove it! let me know where you'll be, and
> i'll be glad to take 2 minutes out of my busy betting schedule to
(crickets chirping)